Test server, durrr.

Well, I've seen some other people's damage against me and without wounds and it seems to be about two or three times what my damage is.

They might have used runes.

They were novices.

Rich novices?

Can you say, credit whore? Nothing erks me more than Honoursing someone, seeing they are 16 years old and 300% of my might (and not Penumbra people, people who in the logs showed up 3 days ago...).

No, they were like less than half my might. I just do under 90 damage a hit unless they have wounds and I only really do respectable damage when they get to supermassive wounds.

Playing around with viscanti a bit.... and yea, the sip penalty really really needs to go. It's way too detrimental even with the resistances. Add that to the fact that not every room is going to be tainted. Lower the tant regen to 2 or heck, even 1 and nix the sip pnalty in favour of some other weakness. I dunno, maybe viscanti have an aversion to psionic damage or something *shrug*

Otherwise, the rest is ok, though I'm still of the mind that we need to deal a heavier hand to racial rebalancing instead of just look at these few races.


To give you a better idea... sipping like this....

703h, 4122m, 3849e, 8p, 20014en, 18600w elrkbp<>-
You take a drink from a sapphire vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
1336h, 4122m, 3849e, 8p, 20014en, 18600w elrkbp<>-


Doesn't help when you're getting hurt like this....

1185h, 4122m, 3849e, 8p, 20014en, 18600w elrxkbp<>-
Sweeping his foot upwards and into a wide arc, a kephera warrior brings the side of his foot hard against your head.
577h, 4122m, 3849e, 8p, 20014en, 18600w elrxkbp<>-

QFT

I just feel like there's too much of a sweeping change with the balance thing, given what makes balance problematic.

I mean, sip penalites are really harsh. Maybe even harsher than balance helps at times. I feel like they should remove them from Viscanti and Aslaran, especially if the latter is going to lose their speed advantage. The former because it would probably be easier to balance them without trying to give a slew of little advantages to make up for a big disadvantage?

I'm just sort of guessing here.

Nihilists are just a joke now. Any good nihilist that has ever existed has either been an aslaran or mugwump. We need speed. Without it, we're totally boned.

I LOVE the proposed Viscanti changes! That's gonna be great!! Estarra

ongaku, go test-play one first

Circle 72. Transendent Resilience. Wearing:

a lightweight suit of aslaran full plate
It offers the following defences:
Physical cutting: 109
Physical blunt: 110
It is in perfect condition.
It has the following dwarven runes etched upon it in coal:
A dwarven rune shaped like a castle has been etched in coal.
A dwarven rune shaped like a mountain peak has been etched in coal.
A dwarven rune shaped like a rock has been etched in coal.

and

a great helm resembling a snake.
It offers the following defences:
Physical cutting: 104
Physical blunt: 80
It is slightly worn.
It has the following dwarven runes etched upon it in coal:
A dwarven rune shaped like a castle has been etched in coal.
A dwarven rune shaped like a mountain peak has been etched in coal.
A dwarven rune shaped like a rock has been etched in coal.


3540h, 1456m, 3540e, 5p, 15878en, 16960w ex-

A sabre-toothed cat swings his massive paw, claws extended, at your shoulder,
digging in deeply.
A sabre-toothed cat charges towards you and tears into you with his sabre-like
teeth.
A sabre-toothed cat charges towards you and tears into you with his sabre-like
teeth.
A sabre-toothed cat charges towards you and tears into you with his sabre-like
teeth.
UNDEF vitality
2291h, 1456m, 3540e, 5p, 15878en, 16960w ex-
n

A snow covered meadow.
The stars twinkle in the clear night sky. You see exits leading east, south, and
west.
2291h, 1456m, 3540e, 5p, 15877en, 16960w ex-

You bleed 259 health.
2032h, 1456m, 3540e, 5p, 15877en, 16960w ex-
clot
outr chervil
eat chervil

2032h, 1396m, 3540e, 5p, 15877en, 16948w ex-
clot

You remove 1 chervil, bringing the total in the Rift to 128.
2032h, 1396m, 3540e, 5p, 15877en, 16948w ex-

You eat a sprig of chervil.
Your bleeding slows as your blood clots.
2032h, 1396m, 3540e, 5p, 15877en, 16948w ex-
clot

2032h, 1336m, 3540e, 5p, 15877en, 16936w ex-
clot

2032h, 1276m, 3540e, 5p, 15877en, 16924w ex-
clot

2032h, 1216m, 3540e, 5p, 15877en, 16912w ex-

2032h, 1156m, 3540e, 5p, 15877en, 16900w ex-

You may eat or smoke another herb.
2232h, 1056m, 3540e, 5p, 15880en, 16886w ex-
outr chervil
eat chervil

You remove 1 chervil, bringing the total in the Rift to 127.
2232h, 1056m, 3540e, 5p, 15880en, 16886w ex-

You eat a sprig of chervil.
Your bleeding slows as your blood clots.
2232h, 1056m, 3540e, 5p, 15880en, 16886w ex-

You may eat or smoke another herb.
2232h, 1056m, 3540e, 5p, 15880en, 16886w ex-
outr chervil
eat chervil

You remove 1 chervil, bringing the total in the Rift to 126.
2232h, 1056m, 3540e, 5p, 15880en, 16886w ex-

You eat a sprig of chervil.
Your bleeding slows as your blood clots.
2232h, 1056m, 3540e, 5p, 15880en, 16886w ex-

You bleed 28 health.
2204h, 1056m, 3540e, 6p, 15880en, 16902w ex-

You may eat or smoke another herb.
2204h, 1056m, 3540e, 6p, 15880en, 16902w ex-

You bleed 20 health.
2384h, 956m, 3540e, 6p, 15880en, 16888w ex-

You bleed 10 health.
2574h, 856m, 3540e, 7p, 15880en, 16874w ex-


I'm not sure what this proves, other than four sabre-tooths instantly hit my vitality. Aslaran are soft with a sip penalty. Don't take away the speed without fixing something else, at least! :sad:

Are you sure the other stuff is live yet? Last night, the only thing that was actually up for testing on the test server were the speed changes as far as I could see. No demigod stats were changed, at least.

Though other stuff has been tested since then (like the drunkenness thing), I'm not sure if it's all actually in at this point.

As another thought, instead of giving viscanti all this influencing stuff, why not just increase their charisma? Viscanti, statistic-wise are still -vastly- inferior to merian and elfen... in fact specced merians have 8 more stat points than specced viscanti! That is an issue that needs to be ddressed as well as getting rid of the sip penalty. Overall you're not really fixing Viscanti, you're simply putting a bandaid on them that still makes them an inferior race even while specced. I can almost guarantee that very few will be switching to viscanti in Magnagora even with these changes.

@Xenthos: and yea, afaik the other stuff is live

Have to say, I wouldn't be temped to roll a Viscanti even with the new resists. Still a sip penalty and really low mana/ego. A decent try, but they're still too easy to kill for mana, and can rarely ever surge effectively.

A test Malarious and I did last night, his Amisso still out produced my Viscanti mana regeneration and mana sipping, meaning, if I sat there and did nothing all day but sip mana and he did nothing but Amisso, he'd be able to knock out my mana (it would take a very long time though). It's not a fix, and nobody in Magnagora will actually reincarante into Viscanti, as Revan pointed out.

I'd be favour of putting up the balance/equi changes alone for now and rethinking the "small" changes to races. We aren't asking for them to have their history rewritten or anything, we just want all races to be equally useful for combat.

Yeah, we need to get rid of or lower the sip penalty for Viscanti. We don't really have much else that can make up for it.