In theory, your conclusion and analysis of Magnagora's punishment is correct. Indeed, this would be applicable if RL policies were applicable IG. In truth, you are punishing players for the crimes of those long gone. In all honesty, how many Mags from that time period are still around? I ask this because I have absolutely no idea. What I do know is that I, at the very earliest, and everyone who started playing after me have been subject to what has been the equivilent of almost 25 IG years of constant beatdowns. Very few who were around when I started, and therefore are the perpetrators of said crimes, still play, forcing those who came after to take the punishment. So, yes, your reasons are valid IG, but I am personally very close to giving up on the city altogether because of the response to crimes that I did not commit.

She didn't mention it directly, it was the cause of her post on LOR4 that said "And stuff like this makes me want an enchanting pentragram in my aethermanse! *supersadface*. She was actually mid-enchant no less. Stealth is a preeeetty sweet in-city griefer's toolbag. Speaking of toolbags...

I love you all.

Just a minor point.. its 6 PM

cw

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Seretai Serf On
Terakh Laborer On
Iorden Supervisor On
Melville Master City Aide On
Grench Laborer On
Draknor Serf On
Gurin Serf On
Madara Supervisor City Aide On
Molagh Serf On
Amelie Laborer On
Malarious Marquis City Aide On
Almunia Serf On
Bhairan Marquis City Aide On
Verisof Serf On
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Currently, there are 14 Citizens on this Plane and 7 on other Planes.


isnt this when you used to see like 30+ people?

cw
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Desitrus Earl On
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Currently, there is 1 Citizen on this Plane and 23 on other Planes.

OHHHH MY GOD THE SKY IS FAAAAAAALLLLLLLINNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG CELEST HAS THREE MORE CITIZENS?!?!

My avatar looks just like me in game!

Though I suppose it is rather dark and hard to make out. I am smiling though, that much is clear.

I think there is clear evidence that a few of the leaders in celest would be willing to work something out on an OOC level but it would need to make sense from an IC level as well.



When I read the histories I got very interested in mag. My very first character here was a Mag. I heard some passing comments about the Engine of Change and I thought it was perfect. I had images of like hard core industrialists who were out to empower their people and world for the better and were willing to put up with some pollution and strip mining to get there.

Then I came across all of the plainly OOC evil things all over the city and especially Nil. The demon lords (even their name!) really turned me off. I had played in a blatantly evil group in another IRE game and I was not wishing to do so here.

So then I took a closer look at celest and I loved the subtle evil that was behind everything. I honestly find the celest supplicant quest far creepier than the more overtly evil mag spike quest.

I have no idea how to change the image, I just thought I would offer some impressions that I had.

Be an agnostic evil-doer! You're just going to Evil church because everyone else is! *shakefist*

I said earlier, the Engine angle is fantastically fanatical and I did so love it. The reality was Chicago Politics.

Srsly, if there is an imbalance anywhere between supernals and demon lords, its that gorgulu is >>>>> raziela. Two 5k damage room attacks in a row was it, last time I was there? Offed a few demigods in a matter of seconds.

@Gregori- Awesome story

Shuttup Malicia we are never supposed to agree




OOH! OOH! MR. KOTTER!!! OOH! OOH! MR. KOTTER!!! OOH! OOH! MR. KOTTER!!!



Gorgulu kitty will you up!

Or, instead of giving up and quitting because your city dug a hole for itself and instead of working to get out of the hole, they just dig it deeper. You could take all those pissed off people, all those people who think the way Magnagora is being treated is unfair and make a change IG. The way Malarious puts it, 90% of Magnagora wants to up and leave, well leadership is easily changed by 90% of the populace.

If Magnagora needs a break, it is not the Admin's job to give them event to take a break, it is not Celest's job to offer them a truce. Take some damn initiative and do something for yourselves, other than dig yourself a deeper hole.

Oh, and there are plenty of those original Magnagorans around, and coincidently still going strong causing trouble and complaining about the results.

I left mag for artie skills and the love of nymphs! They didn't have the girls in wooden dresses... and that's my thing.... bark... yeah bark...

Don't lie, you love wood.

It is "cunning" I suppose but I don't see it in the same negative light you do. Nor is Celest full on ignoring the Supernals. They are approaching what the Supernals tell them to do in unusual circumstances with a little more reserve. Which would have been nice to have into place before Liam followed Raziela's instructions without pause.

Players SHOULD always have a way to NOT do whatever the denizens they're loyal to tell them to do. If the intent is for players to just be directed like puppets by the admin possessed NPCs then why not just give us all a script with our parts beforehand so we don't need to worry about anything more than saying our lines at the right point in time.

I'm not considering leaving because Mag is getting beat on...I'm considering leaving because many refuse to change even when change is obviously needed and they steadfastedly refuse to see that fact.

I think we have it backwards... Mag is the new Glom.

I knew that was comin when I said bark... I went to say wood at first and then I was like OMFG I will get ownd for this...


Touche Desi, and Acrune!!! Touche.... you may have won this battle but watch out for the lion!

In a never seen before move, I will post the same lolcat twice in one day, as many missed it not reading the artifacts thread:

Clearly you are burnt out and tired from griefing all of those mag newbies. Even the forum readers suffer from celest's overbearing ways!