dual wielders get +10 each weap.

Two handers get +20, divided by 2.2, you can check the math-- 0.90909090909090909090909090909..... difference.

Ok...so I'm seeing bard spec races, and I notice that kephera/illithoid have weapon buffs like igasho, dwarf etc., but still no monk specs with elfen. Can we get that corrected too please?

The monk specs are intended to be Illithoid/Kephera, I believe.

PS: Shadowlord<->Elfen Lord disparity still exists!

But the monk specs clearly aren't illithoid/kephera. Kephera/illithoid are weapon specs like dwarf. But warriors get both dwarves and actual specs like shadowlord faeling.

Clearly, but even so, from the Admin posts above it's intended that the Kephera/Illithoid be the Monk 'specs'. I'd be a bit concerned about Shadowlord Monks tbh, but maybe that's not much of an issue..?

Well, it would have to be a different spec because it makes no sense for elfen monks to be losing dex.

Yeah, that's part of the issue they mentioned above (the "having to make new spec races and not sure how to go about it" one).

PS: Shadowlord<->Elfen Lord disparity. Please at least reply on the thing. I realize you're looking for others to comment on it with their observations, but we don't really have many active non-Demi Shadowlords with experience as the race, so we've mostly just got the numbers to go off of. They seem pretty clear to me.

As long as there is -some- spec. Raw elfen make crap monks.

Yeah, I just get cranky when people don't understand how much low dex can truly effect a race. I apologize for being slightly offensive (yea I probably could have said worse, but either way my apologies)




This is why I made the statements I made. I am glad you see how disgustingly inferior a Dwarf Axelord is compared to other specialized warrior races. Hell if they got rid of the whole drunk thing and gave Dwarf AL's more of a % chance to hit with spec precision afflictions, that would be fine too. Its just sad how a whole specialized warrior race is only good for bashing while all the other specialized races get boosts to make them a little better at PvP. As it stands now, I am a bit depressed going in as an AL when I could be a PB that actually got my afflictions as an Orclach



That would be quite awesome Desi!


Yea I feel like the "powers that be" AL Dwarves teabag them and didn't bother to hand us any Scope to rinse that taste out of our mouths.


Oh yeah 1 more thing, did they set forging on a timer? Forging as a Faeling takes the same amount of time as Forging as a human from what I have noticed the past day.

Well I've only been a monk for a short time...but I can say that specced races with better stats than Illithoid and krokani would scare the crap out of me.

Nor does it make sense for master viscanti bards to be losing two dex, but that's what happens when they're lumped in with geomancers.

Heh, ok, but it would be more like losing int. Dex is secondary for you guys.

I don't think the bard specs work...

Dex, int and charisma are the three stats that matter most for bards so losing it at all doesn't really make sense when it's the specialized race.

Just a tidbit... wow to alcohol tolerance regen.. I sober up now in a couple mins tops.. Time to buy more whiskey..

Soon you will end up with a habit.... and it might get worse.... wanna try my china white ummm whiskey

edit - PS- It still wont help the wounding problem with 10dex ^^ But at least it will take away the pain and the cares of reality

We sell whiskeys and toddies in Attai!

Because of some comments, we have taken another look at dwarves, but we still conclude that, while their affliction rate may be slightly lower than some other warrior races, they still are quite tanky (don't forget the alcohol component!), have a decent intelligence compared with other warriors, and have a good range of resistances. In order for us to seriously consider changing dwarves (or any other race), they need to be thoroughly stress tested rather than just posting suppositions on the forums before vigorous testing. After all, that's what live testing is for: to test in-game and not theorize on the forums.

I don't think dwarves are in as dire of shape as some people make out!

How about individualizing bard specs? They seem to hinder as much as they help, currently. Bards just aren't casters, doesn't make sense to give them caster specs.

We had thought of reversing the intelligence/charisma modifiers.