4950h, 6413m, 4800e, 9p, 20400en, 30890w elrx<>-
abjure quickening

Focusing your entire will upon the cosmic strands that bind your own body, you
quicken every fiber of your being to lightning speed.
QUICKENING ACTIVATED!!!!
4950h, 6188m, 4800e, 6p, 20400en, 30860w lrx<>-
11
10
9
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6188m, 4800e, 6p, 20400en, 30874w lrx<>-

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6188m, 4800e, 6p, 20400en, 30874w lrx<>-
contemplate Talkan

You have recovered equilibrium.
4950h, 6188m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30874w elrx<>-

Talkan's mana stands at 4890/4890.
100 % Mana left
darkchant leech Talkan
4950h, 6151m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30864w elrx<>-

You point at Talkan and utter words of power, leeching his mental reserves into
your own.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30854w lrx<>-
contemplate Talkan
8

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30854w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

Talkan takes a drink from a commemorative iron vial.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30854w lrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30854w lrx<>-
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30854w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30854w lrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30868w lrx<>-
7
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30868w lrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30868w lrx<>-
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30868w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30868w lrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30868w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30868w lrx<>-

You have recovered equilibrium.
You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30868w elrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

Talkan's mana stands at 4890/4890.
100 % Mana left
darkchant leech Talkan
4950h, 6563m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30858w elrx<>-
HALFTIME: 6 left!

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6563m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30858w elrx<>-
contemplate Talkan

Talkan's mana stands at 4890/4890.
100 % Mana left
darkchant leech Talkan
4950h, 6526m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30848w elrx<>-

You point at Talkan and utter words of power, leeching his mental reserves into
your own.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30838w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30838w lrx<>-

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30838w lrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30838w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30838w lrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30838w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30838w lrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30838w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30838w lrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30838w lrx<>-
5
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30838w lrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30838w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30838w lrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30838w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30838w lrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30838w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30838w lrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30838w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30838w lrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30838w lrx<>-
4
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You have recovered equilibrium.
Talkan's mana stands at 4143/4890.
84 % Mana left
darkchant leech Talkan
4950h, 6563m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30828w elrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6563m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30828w elrx<>-

Talkan's mana stands at 4143/4890.
84 % Mana left
darkchant leech Talkan
4950h, 6526m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30818w elrx<>-

You point at Talkan and utter words of power, leeching his mental reserves into
your own.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30808w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30808w lrx<>-

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30808w lrx<>-

Talkan takes a drink from a commemorative iron vial.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30808w lrx<>-

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30808w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30808w lrx<>-

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30808w lrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30808w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan
3

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30822w lrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30822w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30822w lrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30822w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30822w lrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30822w lrx<>-
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30822w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30822w lrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30822w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30822w lrx<>-
2

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30822w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30822w lrx<>-

You have recovered equilibrium.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30822w elrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30822w elrx<>-
contemplate Talkan

Talkan's mana stands at 4273/4890.
87 % Mana left
darkchant leech Talkan
4950h, 6563m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30812w elrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

Talkan's mana stands at 4273/4890.
87 % Mana left
darkchant leech Talkan
4950h, 6526m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30802w elrx<>-

You point at Talkan and utter words of power, leeching his mental reserves into
your own.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30792w lrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30792w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30792w lrx<>-

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30792w lrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30792w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan
1

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30792w lrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30792w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30792w lrx<>-
contemplate Talkan

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30792w lrx<>-

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30792w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 7p, 20400en, 30792w lrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 8p, 20400en, 30792w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 8p, 20400en, 30792w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 8p, 20400en, 30792w lrx<>-

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 8p, 20400en, 30792w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 8p, 20400en, 30792w lrx<>-

The quickening within your being subsides.
=QUICKENING OVER=
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 8p, 20400en, 30792w lrx<>-

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 8p, 20400en, 30792w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 8p, 20400en, 30792w lrx<>-

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 8p, 20400en, 30792w lrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 8p, 20400en, 30792w lrx<>-

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 8p, 20400en, 30792w lrx<>-

You have recovered equilibrium.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 8p, 20400en, 30792w elrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 8p, 20400en, 30792w elrx<>-
sting Talkan
contemplate Talkan

Talkan's mana stands at 3429/4890.
70 % Mana left
darkchant leech Talkan
4950h, 6563m, 4800e, 8p, 20400en, 30782w elrx<>-

You have no tail with which to sting.
4950h, 6563m, 4800e, 8p, 20400en, 30782w elrx<>-

Talkan takes a drink from a commemorative iron vial.
4950h, 6563m, 4800e, 8p, 20400en, 30796w elrx<>-

Talkan's mana stands at 4187/4890.
85 % Mana left
darkchant leech Talkan
4950h, 6526m, 4800e, 8p, 20400en, 30786w elrx<>-

You point at Talkan and utter words of power, leeching his mental reserves into
your own.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 8p, 20400en, 30776w lrx<>-

Bleeding wounds open up on the body of Talkan, whose eyes glow with holy power.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 8p, 20400en, 30776w lrx<>-

You must regain equilibrium first.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 8p, 20400en, 30776w lrx<>-

You have recovered equilibrium.
4950h, 6600m, 4800e, 8p, 20400en, 30776w elrx<>-


Note he didnt need sparkleberry or healing scroll for any of this.. this cost 3p

This is a quickened mugwump

abjure quickening
Focusing your entire will upon the cosmic strands that bind your own body, you quicken
every fiber of your being to lightning speed.
4890h, 4590m, 6747e, 7p xk-contemplate malarious
You must regain equilibrium first.
4890h, 4590m, 6747e, 7p xk-
4890h, 4590m, 6747e, 7p xk-contemplate malarious
You must regain equilibrium first.
4890h, 4590m, 6747e, 7p xk-
You have recovered equilibrium.
4890h, 4590m, 6747e, 7p exk-contemplate malarious
Malarious's mana stands at 6600/6600.
100%
chant amissio malarious
4890h, 4540m, 6747e, 7p exk-
Chanting the words of Amissio, you whisper the name of Malarious into air, sapping the
very essence out of his pores.
4890h, 4490m, 6747e, 7p xk-contemplate malarious
You must regain equilibrium first.
4890h, 4490m, 6747e, 7p xk-
You have recovered equilibrium.
4890h, 4490m, 6747e, 7p exk-contemplate malarious
Malarious's mana stands at 5590/6600.
85%
chant amissio malarious
4890h, 4440m, 6747e, 7p exk-
Chanting the words of Amissio, you whisper the name of Malarious into air, sapping the
very essence out of his pores.
4890h, 4390m, 6747e, 7p xk-
Malarious takes a drink from a bloodstone vial.
4890h, 4390m, 6747e, 7p xk-
4736h, 4790m, 6747e, 8p xk-contemplate malarious
You have recovered equilibrium.
Malarious's mana stands at 5638/6600.
85%
chant amissio malarious
4890h, 4840m, 6747e, 8p exk-
Chanting the words of Amissio, you whisper the name of Malarious into air, sapping the
very essence out of his pores.
4890h, 4790m, 6747e, 8p xk-contemplate malarious
You must regain equilibrium first.
4890h, 4790m, 6747e, 8p xk-
You have recovered equilibrium.
4890h, 4790m, 6747e, 8p exk-
The quickening within your being subsides.


Malarious had addiction, as well.

Yes and if I walk up to you and apply no strategy at all and just "JAB HEAD" you aren't going to die if properly skilled/deffed. Do you think amissio needs passive aeon or something?

If someone doesnt need to eat sparkleberry or read healing scroll to overcome quickened Amissio, what strategy could we possibly employ? While we are doing anything but amissio (actively), the target can cure mana while we arent draining any. While we are draining mana, we cannot hinder (aside from angel/demon afflictions).

Point in case: Its dumb that you can out pace Amissios drain (no less by quickened mugwump) with just sipping. It clearly spells out that the skill is inferior.

Lash is much the same way, and has been all along. That is why you use your afflictions to slow them down.

You're an affliction class. Use your afflictions full-out to prevent curing, and if there's still an issue, *that's* when you look at how to cure that issue in particular.

You don't pretend you have absolutely nothing but amissio & quicken...

No really, I would hate for you to have to apply strategy. Tragedy. You have various kill methods available to you. Non demi knights can't surge in fear of amissio and I'm willing to bet you can still blow away low-mana targets with quickened amissio spam with the demon afflicting.

The problem Xenthos is that Guardians aren’t an affliction class. I’m not sure where that confusion came in, but we have a poor affliction potential.

Using Celestines, for example, they can give 2 afflictions every 8 seconds (for 5 rounds) and then 1 affliction every 8 seconds. They have no potential to sleep lock because they have no passive sleeping AND abjure sleep has a base equilibrium of like 4.0 seconds. Celestines have only two afflictions that hinder mana curing (addiction and anorexia). Shakiniel has only one decent affliction (anorexia) so every triggers that angel line to look for it. Elohora’s has three decent afflictions (kneel, paralysis, addiction). Most people trigger this such that if they don’t get a “p” on their prompt, they focus mind or eat galingale.

The example Talkan posted was with me having addiction. With just sipping (and addiction), it still wasn’t possible to overcome my sipping (and perfection/regeneration). There isn’t a whole lot he could have possible done different. Tarot is not an afflicting skillset and has no real potential to “stack” afflictions. All cards also have a base of 4.0 seconds of balance. I sincerely doubt a pennyroyal affliction every 4 seconds (Moon Tarot) would make a difference.

I heal aeon very well (as does anyone with a decent system). There is no way Talkan could hope to aeon me, recover balance, amissio for 20+ seconds, etc. to Absolve (I tend to cure aeon before he recovers balance). If at any point I cured aeon and sipped mana once, the entire process is botched. Even with a wrathed angel, it’s not going to slow me down whatsoever.

Nihilists do get more afflictions, but again, none of them hinder sipping. Coldaura, Contagion, and Sting (with the exception of Contortrin on sting) do not hinder sipping. It’s largely the same situation.

Now... Moondancers (since you brought it up) are able to drain mana passively and actively. This is totally different. Lash drainsmore mana than Amissio AND they have a pixie (100 mana for insomnia), pooka (you could force focus body for 250 mana), banshee (around 350-400 mana), and crone (most mental afflictions that people focus off). Likewise, Moondancers have equilibrium based Aeon; Hexes (which can lock a target down while aeoned quite well and sleep super fast); etc.

I think the point is that for Amissio to outpace healing...they essentially need to be inquisitioned or aeoned. Aeon has already been proven to be unreliable. Period. It just won't work against good systems...or even mediocre systems that have the correct checks in place. They can writhe stack and such, but that won't affect their mana curing. Nihilist just don't have the cure hindering power (IMO) that say...druids or mages do.

Pointing out irrelevant abstract points doesn’t help. If you want to provide positive criticism, let’s see it. What demon afflictions (given their speed) and what strategy. It’s quite asinine to provide vague blanket statements.

1) Why would a warrior need to surge against a guardian? You paint this out to be some disadvantage, but it’s not. While yes, in the bowels of group combat, surge might backfire, we aren’t considering group combat. If we are, then everything is overpowered.

2) What strategy? What afflictions? It’s not as complicated as you are trying to make it sound. Guardians have aeon and/or anorexia (Nihilists have reckless, Celestines have addiction). I can’t seem to piece any of those together to come up with a viable strategy to kill someone who can cure aeon. If you are going to comment, let’s hear yours!

3) Having various options available to us has nothing to do with Absolve/Wrack. I have never heard Estarra state that if you have a semi decent method to kill someone then all other methods available to you should be improbable. As a Nihilist with Astrology, I suppose if I can’t wrack you, I should whore out one of the lowest damaging attacks in Lusternia (symbol) -or- go for Sacrifice with Crucify (which you can writhe out of before I recover equilibrium as a Mugwump). Wot?

What the :censor:.

How is pointing out that Guardians (well, Nihilists especially) are an affliction class irrelevant? And then doing a headsmack emote when you say that they're not? You even listed a bunch of affliction-potential in your post. Yes, Aeon may be very easily curable by right systems, but that does not change the fact that amissio & quicken by itself should not get someone with high mana under 50%. Period. You're supposed to use strategy to achieve a goal, so take a look at the support skills that are meant to help achieve the curing slowdown.

@Xenthos: Guardians are more of an Aeon + Soulless Tarot class (with Crucify and Inquisition). Outside of Soulless Tarot, there isn’t a whole lot we can do (I’m still not sure how anyone paying attention manages to die to Judge, Sacrifice, etc. 1-on-1). No Guardian combination can afflict well. If you disagree, provide some examples of how a guardian can afflict well and capitalize off it to kill

Why do you always play the victim? Why can't you POSSIBLY get some skill? Seriously? I amissio'd warriors to death as an Aslaran Nihilist. That's still slower than CURRENT mugwumps. Sting/demon timing, tarot, various mental afflictions, and FORCE.

Let me draw you a mental picture since you seem to be ignoring the obvious:

NOT EVERY KILL METHOD IS MEANT TO KILL EVERY PLAYER. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO APPLY OTHER KILL METHODS TO SLAY PARTICULARLY RESISTANT TARGETS. I DO NOT TRY TO DAMAGE KILL PEOPLE WITH 9000+ HEALTH. IF A TARGET IS RESIST STACKING (LIKE ASMODEA IN MY PREVIOUS TEST) AND I AM DOING LESS THAN 1000 DAMAGE A HIT, I CHANGE STRATEGIES. SIMILARLY, I NEVER TRIED TO MANA KILL GUARDIANS AND SHADOWDANCERS AS A NIHILIST. I USED "OTHER METHODS". KNIGHTS ARE VULNERABLE TO MANA KILLS AS THEY HAVE LOW MANA.

Jesus Christ dude, seriously.

I thought it'd be pretty obvious by now that for mana kills to work, you actually have to do some work yourself.

Haven't you heard? It's impossible, there is no work to do. Either quickened amissio beats sip/scroll/sparkle or the whole class is null and void. They couldn't possible get a different pact for their symbol and have things like active darksilver or dominate.

Sheesh. Testy much? Learn when to stop reading.

Malarious, whether you like it or not, has a valid point. Quickened amissio's can be out sipped. No sparkles or scrolls, against an target with average health/mana like Talkan. Even with addiction, malarious is outsipping amissio. This isn't like your axe that can easily outpace wounds and curing of most cloth users (if not all cloth users.) Nor are your "previos experiences" as a Nihilist going to hold much water. Curing has improved drastically even since I've started playing, so they've certainly improved since you were a Nihilist. Aeon is not reliable. If you can't aeon someone, how do you expect to kill them with a mana kill. If you can't kill them with a mana kill, your other options are...soulless and damage. Guardian damage is pretty tankable, so that leaves soulless for any non knights. That dosen't sound too fair to me.

You can't inquisition and absolve.


And yes, it's impossible to afflict someone and amissio them. Before, with old mugwump speed, the key was quick, brutal speed that overwhelmed the target-you still didn't afflict and amissio. The only reason it was possible before was the speed, it wasn't as if you could afflict someone and then drain their mana back then, either

Guardians are an affliction class, they just aren't a very good one. There's a reason every Celestine kills with inquision/soulless instead of actual afflictions, and there's a reason I expect to get more kills through cheap tricks than through real kill methods.

That will work too!

@desitrus:
Why is that you still continuously fail to provide a solid example? You seem to be so venomously in disagreement with some marvelous insight into the topic! Let’s hear what demon afflictions you would invest to kill someone above level 80 (there are 179 active people in Lusternia above this level) with Wrack. You can keep throwing out botched blanket statements, but they don’t prove anything. Your word is no more valuable than mine, and I have at least provided two logs showing Amissio to be crap. If you want, I will retest with the strategy you provide using every passive I have (of course, most of them in the case of a Nihilist won’t have any impact).

And... Every class has the potential to have high mana by means of increasing their level. There are over 179 active people who play Lusternia that are above level 80 as stated above. At level 80 without surge, most warriors do not have god awful mana unless they are a race that has low intelligence. However, Merian Lords have 13 intelligence (15 with knowledge) and Elfen Lords have 13 intelligence (15 with knowledge). Aslarans have 14 base intelligence (16 with knowledge). Shadowlord Faelings have 12 base intelligence (14 with knowledge) and a L3 sipping bonus.

If everyone I fought was a level 40 Brood Viscanti then yes, I could see your point; however, warriors do not suffer from insane mana penalty and surge is not required to fight a guardian. The example you provided is also botched. Wiccans have sprites, which IS IN ADDITION TO mana potion, sparkleberry, and healing scroll. Clearly if just mana potion can keep up with amissio, there is no chance to pull it off on a Wiccan (which is fine). My point is that since a quickened/amissio can’t over come basic sipping, it has relatively no chance on almost everyone who can sip.