Simply put, I don't fully buy the accusations, nothing more, nothing less. I merely will wait a few moments to see if the wording was more of a joke or a distraction.

Still waiting in the sidelines to step in for chronically dormant people.

*twiddle*

I apologize for not posting. This is the first time I've played and I've been observing how everybody else has been playing to better understand how to play. Though I am ready now.

I've learned from a valuable source that Xenthos is part of a secret cult. Due to this I am going to have to vote: Xenthos.

Er...what kind of "valuable source" would that be?

Well this thread got rather active, didn't it!

This is all very interesting reading; there's a lot going on right now, and though I still feel strongly about Daganev (insert FoS here), I am also starting to think Celina is more than a little sketchy. I'd like to see a roleclaim.

Vote:Celina

That makes five. Celina, I guess you better defend yourself (i.e convincing roleclaim) before Casilu, Shou or any of the others decide you're not going to and put you in danger of being gotten rid of!

Really? The best lead you have is be saying Veracruz has brain trauma?

Let's say for a second that I am NOT in the mafia. For now, we really don't have any leads. Or so the Mafia would have you think. Look at my "defense" of Veracruz. It is literally a line and a half, and humorous. Now look at the people who have accused me. Both Shiri and Okin were very quick to use such a flimsy reason to sway your opinions. Both Shiri and Okin have been under scrutiny before. Their fingers and votes are just to draw attention away from themselves. They would have you think I am the "obvious choice," but as Casilu and Shou have both pointed out, there is nothing substantial in my "defense" of Veracruz. Also note that Okin was very quick to finger Shou because Shou couldn't make up her mind and "defended" me. Why would Shou be so quick to defend me if we were both in the Mafia? Wouldn't that be far too obvious?

I almost changed my mind about Shiri being in the Mafia, but her/his/its obvious support of Okin has me seriously thinking they are both in the Mafia. Shiri claims the only "lead" is me. I think the evidence against Shiri and Okin is far more solid.

So FOS Shiri and my vote is still for Okin.

Ok, so no roleclaim, and trying to shift attention back to me and Okin, both of whom killed a scum instead of bandwagoning with you to kill me (and we already know I'm a mason). Flimsy defence from earlier aside, this pretty much cements it.

You are a mason? News to me.

You would rather I band wagoned with you to kill Veracruz based on nothing but "he hasn't posted?" You can use the justification that you killed scum as evidence, but it won't fool anyone. You nor anyone posted any evidence against Veracruz, other than "he's lurking." Same evidence you've used against Revan and Thoros and numerous other people. Are they all scum simply because they don't post? I had no reason to suspect Veracruz. You just got lucky, and I will admit that I was doubtful about it.

Plus, I don't even know who voted for who. I'm not in the mood to scroll back and find out.

Finally, it's simply not possible for me to be scum because I had a mental disorder that the good ol' psychiatrist cured, so that I won't blow up the first person who votes for me if I'm lynched. I am just an ex crazy townie.

PS Balizar, you should include the names of who cured you so I don't accidentally vote for my doctor :/

I have to agree, actually. Shiri made a roleclaim earlier and that's a hard one to fake according to Sham. Sorry, but... .

And because I screw up SO easily. Vote :Celina.

Yes, I am a mason, read the posts from last page (or the page before, I forget.)

For reference since that post was a roleclaim hidden in a lot of denial (although it is true that we got kind of lucky on Veracruz, but voting for me instead was a definite mistake and you're only compounding it now): Finally, it's simply not possible for me to be scum because I had a mental disorder that the good ol' psychiatrist cured, so that I won't blow up the first person who votes for me if I'm lynched. I am just an ex crazy townie.

Is there even a role like that? I guess it's not that hard to believe in and of itself though. I am still in favour of lynching Celina but since people are abstaining in the meantime, let's have an explanation from Silvanus about why he's voting the way he is, and an explanation from Thoros about this "Information" on Xenthos. The obvious thing for it to be would that Thoros is a seer, which begs the question of whom he scried previously and their orientation. If he's telling the truth we'll get his opinion on who's innocent, and if he's lying he'll have to name scum to avoid being caught out if he gets it wrong.

Damn, used "begs the question" wrongly. Still stands though. Also, Celina goes up to 6 votes, 4 more to lynch.

Holy crap. Are you kidding me? You are seriously going to lynch me for saying "veracruz dosen't post much, he forget where he is" when they pulled his name out of a hat? They had no reason to choose him! They were lucky! You can't use luck as a defense! The ends don't justify the means, sure they voted Veracruz and got lucky, but they had no REASON to vote for him. Read their posts! If they are mafia, then they are getting away with killing me, a townie. If they are pro town, they are a danger to the town for throwing at names without a reason, and succeeding in killing them.

Well, I hope you all can sleep well at night when you find out I'm on the town's side. Maybe then you'll listen to me and go after Shiri and Okin, the obvious Mafia.

As I already stated, that's not even the best reason to lynch you anymore. Your frantic trying to shift blame onto me and Okin is. A melodramatic OMGUSUCK vote, this late in the game? No thanks!

Also, inactivity was a reason to vote at the time. Thoros and Revan would have been just as good to gank (both are now posting and Veracruz was scum so it's lucky we didn't! Lucky for the townies, that is.) We didn't have any massively strong suspicions like we do now (i.e you.)

Also note that Shiri is now trying to force both Thoros and myself into roleclaiming. Incredibly suspicious. According to Shiri, we either have to make ourselves the targets by stating our roles, or we protect our roles which means we are suspicious. Shiri is pushing people into corners, and succeeding.

Thoros already went half-way to claiming his role by throwing out information. Either he needs to make it moreclear so he sounds less scummy, or...if he's not a seer, something very suspicious is going on!

I've already justified why we're pressuring you so I won't repeat all that.

P.S I already made myself a target.

Yes well, let's see how frantic you would be when the Mafia is leading a Bandwagon charge against you. There is still no reason to suspect me. The first "lead" was flimsy at best, and now defending myself is suspicious and you've thrown out your first argument that I defended Veracruz. It's really a snowball effect. The more I defend myself, the worse off I'll be.

You demanded I defend myself, so I did.

You demanded I roleclaim, so I did (Yes, crazy is a role. Veracruz was one of them. The Psychiatrist can discover us and cure us so we don't blow up the first person who votes for us. If Veracruz was one of the crazy guys, do you really think the Mafia would have two of the some role? Myself being the other)

You voted for me, made your demands, and used my compliance with your demands as an argument against me. I'm in a lose lose situation

Veracruz evidently wasn't "crazy" in any meaningful way though. He was a regular mafia so far as we could tell. Your "crazy" is apparently "blow up the first person who votes for you" unless you (conveniently) get cured by a doctor. And why the heck do you think there's some kind of number of crazy guys anyway? Particularly irregular ones.

I could have considered it earlier since there are crazy investigators from time to time, but dragging Veracruz into it like that sounds so inconsistent I have to call BS.

And stop lurking and post Saran!