Quiet corpso. And Arix just basically voted for the only person we know is a townie. So...


Vote: Arix

Unvote: Daganev

Vote: Arix

There, NOW I voted for the only person that is probably a townie

...

I could vote for Daganev, who I do find suspicious, but it's obvious where this is going, and there's all I can do about it

Well, maybe if someone explained why they thought Dag was suspicious, maybe we could see why you think that.

You sir, fail.

Because he talks too much, and I think he's using that to throw us off since 'mafia don't talk during the day because all the fun happens at night'

Except I don't suppose it would be too fun since there's only one mafia member left. Which frees up everyone to talk during the day, which makes it a fairly weak basis for suspicion. At this point, not talking is more detrimental than talking than it was earlier in the game.

Not saying that I irrevocably suspect you, Arix. Just make a clear point instead of voting for yourself. If Daganev really were a member of the mafia, he wouldn't hesitate to lynch you with the last vote at all.

Daganev is much better at making himself not look mafia than I am at just being honest

Good point.

Unvote: Arix

Hmm, I highly doubt that.

Here is Arix, about to die, (and if he is mafia lose the game) so he says "ha you can't kill me, I'll kill me" cause he "knows where this is going" and that seems like a very clever way to say, "oh well we lose" so that people don't vote for them because they don't want to lose just because some guy is a lunatic.

Now, if Casilu was mafia, the vote would have stayed on Arix, and if Silferis was the mafia, Arix would have been lynched. There is no reason for a mafia member to not kill Arix quickly to pretend to be a townie at this point in the game. Especially if it ends in a lynch.

So, since nobody was willing to put in the last vote because Arix was voting for himself, that would mean that none of the people outside of Arix were mafia....

And then there is this quote



Now what does that mean? That sounds to me like Arix is saying he isn't really pro-town...
I mean, Arix said he is a hobo with no powers, so what the hell does "they'll believe that I'm pro-town, and night-kill me, and win " mean???

I realise my post wasn't very clear.

There were 2 votes on Arix, nobody did the third vote to kill him off, and everyone had opportunity to do so.

This means one of two things:

1. The remaining mafia member is stupid
2. The remaining mafia member was allready voting for Arix.

Two people were voting for Arix: Casilu and Arix

Casilu removed the vote before Arix did. IF Casilu was mafia what possible reason would there be to do that? Casilu would either have to be:

1. A really stupid mafia member or
2. Afraid that Arix is a townie, and not want the mafia to kill him.

This leaves me with the conclusion that either: The Maifa is really stupid, or that Arix is infact the sniper.

Arix any idea if either Casilu or Silferras is a really stupid mafia player?

Here's my logic for seeing Arix as primary suspect:

Assumption: Silferras is the last mobster, nyah.

If it is the case that Silferras was the last mafia member, then she would have voted and lynched Arix then and there, and if it is the case that Arix was lynched, then it would now be night. If it is the case that it is now night, I would have been nightkilled and Silferras would have won.

Silferras did not win, therefore she is not the Mafia.

Assumption: Casilu is the last mafia, see.

If it is the case that Casilu is the last member of the mafia, then there was no reason to remove the vote on Arix because of this:



Essentially, it was a given lynch and therefore a win. And since I did not win, and am not an idiot (I don't think, you people can safely only tell me such a thing), I can safely assume by this (and any number of other things, like being given my own role) that I am not the last member of the mob.

Assumption: Daganev is the last Mafia.

If it is the case that Dag was indeed the last member of the Mafia, then he would have not posted the line above, which would draw attention if any hint of suspicion was found. (Also assuming a smart Mafia member would try to not draw suspicion to themselves.) However, this being said, it has been noted by other people in this thread that making the last vote quickly to lynch someone is a Mafia move. However, after all this logic and reasoning, I cannot safely conclude that Dag is not the last mobster. However, I just don't feel anything suspicious instinctively.

Assumption: Arix is Mafia.

Not only does Arix seem highly suspicious by instinct, but I think a few other fingers point to him as well. First, let us assume for a moment Arix was a townie. When I voted for him and when he voted for him, he would have given the Mafia an insta-win. Of course, this would not be the case if he knew who the last mobster was and knowing that Silferras or another would notice the chance for them to take it instantly. Thus, his vote would actually secure his protection, just as it did. Now, he also tries to make Dag look suspicious who has done nothing to trigger it, in my opinion.

Therefore, if it is not the case that Silferras is mafia, and if it is not the case that Daganev is mafia, and if it is not the case that Casilu is mafia, then it is not the case that it is not the case that Arix is Mafia.

So lynch me then

Unvote: Daganev

Vote: Casilu


She know's I'm pro-town and is trying to lynch me

I'm waiting to hear from Silferras before I make any final decisions.

I'll make my final vote in 4 hours, and then I'll be away till Tuesday. (I'll be checking the forums every half hour incase someone decides to be more active here)

Whatever information I have points to but one action...


Vote: Arix

The random vote from last time still strikes me as odd, there was no reason to rush it along, we were not given a time limit to decide. Every second waited and every new post is more information, someone has been trying to rush things whenever possible. And that is where my vote goes.

Also, before I forget, take as much time as you'd like, no need to rush these decisions, if anything, we should try and wait longer.