So basically my skills are Virtuouso Stag, Trans Axelord and Mythical Athletics.

I just want to know how to draw a druid out in a fully set demesne. Can't tackle because of Mountain Spirit and Trueheart defense so it's a small chance to successfully tackle them. Next is there any way to get out of a sap lock? Can't writhe because I loss equilibrium, can't use Green because I'm paralyzed, can't Concentrate because I'm confused and can't pretty much do anything once I'm sapped.

Tips, advice? Please?

Trying to get a druid out of demesne is generally futile. If anyone tackles me out of demesne I just move right back in, if they decide to be annoying and just spam tackle me out of it I just move deeper into the demesne. Sap lock is more about prevention. Once you are sapped with 2 cleanse preventing afflictions, you are generally in trouble. The druid can keep you sapped. So, I guess I'm saying work on your curing.

Wait for power, stun and pray for love tick. Don't get stuck with the druid unless you can stun and pray for love. Other than that, shield and be annoying, keep protection up, etc.

I'm not sure you can win an annoyance fight with a druid.

Sure you can, it's more like being defensively annoying until your offense lines up. As an axelord, you need the stun/love and then you work them over. If you think luck is on your side, you can try for a slitlock off sweep leg/sweep head, but you need to be counting off the demesne timer in your head and make sure you get hit by the demesne after the second attack.

Then again, what do I know about it, I just mash the artifact button, mirite?

If you can flat out tank and cure the demesne, you can just work them with your best wounding weapon and execute when the time comes.

Yeah, what Celina said. The downfall of a druid is being stun whored when love hits... ick.

A warrior can win an attrition fight, though.

Basically, do the exact opposite of what you're trying and what Desi is suggesting. Sit right below the druid and shield. When the druid comes down, hit. When the druid runs or climbs, shield. When treelife ticks, if you get balance before the druid comes up, climb down. Whatever you do, do NOT chase the druid, and do NOT go defensive while in the room with the druid, unless the druid stops attacking without reason. Attrition is your key to victory, and don't underestimate the squishiness of a druid. DO wait for the druid to break your shield when he enters your room, because there's a really nasty trick for people who take the initiative.

How does attrition fight work when you are sitting on the ground shielded doing nothing? Can't they just wait two health pot tics and undo anything you did to them on your one attack? I must be missing something.

The druid needs to stand and take blows to get a saplock. There's no way around it, except the 4s eq trick. If the druid cares about winning, the druid will come back.

I think that dreamweavers are better attrition fighters, but shielding on ground level is so annoying.

Well you said it...not me.

The problem with trying to wait out a druid is that, as a demesne user, they can be very stubborn and do the same to you. I know I have. People will just flat out refuse to stand in the demesne for more than 5 seconds, so I'll find the deepest part of my demesne and sit there while they scream and moan. When you are actually ready for an offense, you hit another problem. Druids can hinder very well, and it meshes well with their sap locks. My best advice is to try and damge them out. Druid DMP is awful.

The worst part of demesne fighting is that the demesne user can pretty much decide when and where you will fight them. Don'tbe afraid to run!

Don't run from a smart druid unless you're at the edge of the demesne. That's suicide.

Tackling a mage or druid out of his/her demesne is useless, they will return to it. If you can cure the demesne effects and have good sap curing (and by good, I mean something that won't choke if you get hit with paralysis and sap and amnesia ticks while you are trying to cure), then stand there and fight him. Otherwise, I wouldn't even bother.

I said it in sarcasm. I just killed one in a demesne with my bashing axe using the very tactic I described. I've also beaten other prominent druid fighters with the same formula pre-artis. The thing you have to gain is momentum. You look for the stun and the afflictions and you build up steam. If you don't get what you want? Reset. Shield spam on ground level, read protection, etc. Now that stripping protection is aggressive, it works even better. The reason you eventually lose the attrition fight as a druid is that eventually your effects drop and with some nice scry and chasing you can prevent the perfect 10s meld.

Pureblades can manage the same thing, but I usually gave them hemi on the cudgel arm just to be safe.

Stop stroking your e-peen. It was a joke.

This tactic is shameless. Personally, I'd just refuse to fight anyone who is going to stand around shielded and wait for demesne effects to fall. That's not a fight by any stretch of the word.

I think I'm the druid in the above example, and by "tactic", Desitrus is talking about the sweep leg/sweep head for a slitlock thing, not the wait for effects to run out thing. We were certainly still in an active demesne when I died. I'd post the log of the fight from my perspective, if it didn't so blatantly showcase my brutal curing.

But I agree, Celina, waiting for the effects to die isn't really "fighting".

That was the attrition win, IE if you keep fighting long enough it happens. Notice how the rest of it is about burst offense?

What exactly do you expect the person to do? Wait for treelife and hope that they don't get saplocked on entry/demesne tick? For a non-tracking warrior, whose offense is 100% active, you don't have a lot of choices when in a demesne. Shield up, wait for the offensive move, and try to capitalize on it. I consider this tactic less whorish than standing outside your demesne for the 800 seconds or whatnot that demesne effects are up, then rushing.

Edit: Wasn't actually you, as that was a wargames and someone else vined you I'm fairly sure. I can't really "power slitlock" when I'm using a 157/260/280 bashing weapon though, that's more of a x/500/180 or a runed x/440/230 type of thing. This was pre-runes.

Although, by the same token, if he's standing in your demesne and fighting back whenever you go down and break his shield, but you refuse to seriously engage for ten whole minutes, you aren't fighting either and deserve the pending death.

EDIT: @Desitrus, not true. The best anti-druid part of a tracker's offense is clamp. It can end a saplock.

Wha? I changed it to non-tracker. The rest of us don't have passives.

The necromancers have Omen! I think it was Bali that dropped me in one combo with omen and puissance. Really and truly, druid defense is the worst in the game.

Sacraments people have trueheal, which breaks saplocks as soon as you get 10p on the prompt, which is really easy considering how slow a saplock kill is.

Crow people with spiderweb have an increased chance of getting out of a saplock by countering vines, which is the main technique for continuing saplocks.

Stag, Night, and Moon get to die, though.