I just hoisted an annoying mute out of Gomdoring

Especially mutes who bounce and blink at you when you tell them to go away, that just makes me want to hurt you for being stupid AND mute.

It is impossible to RP being mute though. Just force them to follow you to astral or make them stupid or something. They will speak soon enough.

Beyond that I do not mind someone not talking, it is emotes done on what feel like a timer that bug me. If you grin every 20 seconds it does not make you cute.

I always appreciate a custom emote for things like grinning or greeting or whatever tough, I think they add a nice touch.

I have a scrying dance. It completely makes up for not being able to scry

flick
EMOTE casually flicks his hair from his eyes.
tuneplay
EMOTE plays a few trilling notes with a vine-covered mahogany lyre.



Just a couple of my aliased custom emotes. I have more, you know, for Alacardael's quiet, secretive, greedy-like personality.

Sounds like you met Fay. Fay isn't mute, but from what I understand she isn't talking anymore. She used to be part of Celest, but left that, and her guild for no reason anyone knows.

As for RP, do what you want I say. Plenty of people suck at it anyways, a small attempt is better than what I see from some of the regulars. I've made my points on this before.. Constant AFK, cut and paste explanations, unrealistic conversations, blah blah blah (these were far worse on Imperian when I played there though). Really though, I say do anything that is roleplay and is not out of character you want - this isn't a constest, it's for fun. Try things out, enjoy yourself!

Also, as for the repeated emote thing, and for the previous subject - I don't find it annoying, which would be Fay and her very consistent "bouncing"... But I also dont get around much, dont see her much, and thus, would be less worn down by such I guess.

All in all I'm satisfied with what I've gotten from Lusternia. Could be better, could be worse. Playerbase to RP ratio works well for me. Hope to see your character flourish, it would be a welcome sight!


Edit - It's fairly irrelevant what YOU think somebody's roleplay is. I've had to deal with annoying situations that I'd rather not, for hours at a time simply because of my characters roleplay, or somebody elses. The question is not what YOU THINK something is, it's what your character thinks something is. That is roleplay, it shouldn't be influenced by your thoughts on something. You ask, "Well, what does my character think?".

So, when you spam scry someone, do you track them down, enter the same room as them, then dance around them over and over and over? Then run away?

Do you then send them a tell informing them that "they got scry served?"


I guess, as far as RP goes, there's a style culture that develops, and if you go too far off to either extreme (like, people talking about mechanics in a fairly blatant OOC manner in says or over CT for one extreme, or the over-dramatic superemote RP for the other), you sort of start to violate the standards of the culture and annoy people stylistically. I know we had the former extreme in Seren recently (and not from a novice) and it really grated on me.

I will say, that in general, I like the structure of RP here. It is often open, usually consistent, and usually respects the fact that there is a person behind the character, and there are some lines that shouldn't be crossed because of that. Compared to many MUDs, where the game is basically ruled in all aspects by a clique of characters (if not players), I think the playerbase here should be proud!

Yes. It was Fay. We asked why she wasn't talking and she just blinked and bounced some more. That was her response to everything. Bounce blink bounce blink. "Bouncing/blinking furrikin" is not RP. I hoisted her and dropped her outside of Glomdoring. She bounced and blinked at me the entire way.

How people have chosen to express their characters thoughts is their own RP, and not for you to decide. What you like and dislike is not a defining fact of anything (except for the fact of what you like and dislike, of course, aka opinion!). Given the two negative resposnes I've seen to Fay's behavior, I could easily say you two aren't RPing by claiming that she is annoying, and expressing such thoughts through your characters as well. However, that isn't for me to decide, and I cannot prove that to be true, just as much as you have no say in what persons RP is valid or not.

Yes, there are clear boundries to RP and not RPing, and I'll give you as much as you're being able to recognize those specific boundries, anymore than that and it becomes an argument of opinions: real RP (good?) compared to fake RP (bad?), when it's all the same thing anyways.

I'll say it again: let people express their characters how they want. Who cares if you don't like it? I don't like a lot of things, and by a lot, I mean practically the entire world, but I deal with it and learn to appreciate many things about things I don't like anyways. RPing isn't a contest. This is a game meant to be played and have fun, and you shouldn't ruin other peoples fun just because they aren't playing the game in a way you decide is acceptable. We're all trying to have fun with our characters in our own way! You shouldn't be judgemental of another player, because that only lets the you get in the way of the RP. A quick example, I know some players who utterly annoy the hell out of me (Rayes? Sorry!), but I don't let that get in my way of my characters interacting with Rayes in a fashion that suites my character (not me, which would be negative in this case). I would go hunting with the guy if I were invited, despite seeing some of his actions make me cringe. I would give the guy help if he needed it! It's just how my character would be! If I were to let myself make the decisions based off of how I actually felt, I'd probably just leave altogether so I wouldn't have to deal with him, ignoring his requests of me.

We should all play and have fun dammit, doing RP in our own way! So long as OOC doesn't mix with IC, what the hell is the problem?

Quite true, Linelmarsith! The thread, though, was started with a personal plea for assistance in this area of MUDding. Celina's only giving up her opinion for the board to consider.

So... your rather pointed argument is, unfortunately, nullified. Except for the having fun part, of course!

I'm not the RP police, but there is a line where people's "RP" is obnoxious and serving no purpose other than to bug the people around them. You want to RP a snuggling aslaran kitty or a bouncing furrikin, fine. Go nuts. The general consensus from the Lusternian community is that it's bad, superficial RP, and players will take steps to get rid of you(or the nice ones will try to nudge you in a better direction). I'm sorry to break it to you, but if you are being obnoxious, I do not feel the least bit guilty by ruining your "fun." Daedalion wanted to kill her, she's lucky I just removed her from the situation in a non violent way. She was annoying, period. My character and my real life self were annoyed by her pointless antics.

If you are actually putting effort into your RP, whatever it is, my opinion doesn't matter. I agree with you there. Some people don't put any effort and do whatever they feel like and slap "It's my RP!" on it. That just doesn't fly.

Well, given I've seen how Fay has interacted with others when she was talking, and even some cool writings on Tahtetso beliefs that she wrote, that I was once handed, I believe she had a reason for being where she was. Which again brings me to my point, you shouldn't judge, because you don't know! Everything she has done so far appears to have some level of thought behind it, and I've never once seen her be all cuddly (although plenty have cuddled her). But, as I like to express so often, my views are from limited play time (especially since I'm trying other stuff aside from Celest based now on Lusternia, more spread out!). Still though, limited or not, I don't believe her actions are just "pointless". Maybe she was there just trying to get a better idea of what Glomdoring is like? Perhaps she is interested in joining? She might be finding it hard to express her intent without speaking, but it certainly doesn't make it pointless for her being there. She always bounces, it's what she does, it's part of her theme, and blinking I've noticed is something she does when she is trying to understand something (when she spoke she would usually blink and quite often respond with how she doesn't understand). Points you can't see are not points that don't exist. Don't use hueristics!


Anyways, while I know talk about these things may not exactly be what Rauros looks for, I still think it's nice to talk about to help himself and others have a different view on what is RP, and what is acceptable RP, which is why I'm emphasizing my points! I'm just trying to help afterall! Having a better concept of what RP is, and being more open minded towards others is a good thing I believe!

Indeed. I am getting some nice encouragement from Myrkr. I thank you.

I'm disappointed to see that some players' in character responses to others are predicated on how they OOCly assess the quality of their RP. You might do well to consider your own shortcomings - RP based on OOC prejudice is not RP at all.

Those of us who are use to real rp games unlike Lusternia, which believe it or not admins is just a hack and slash game no matter what you to do it, people do pull off para's

Do not think about developing a roleplay. Just do it.

As thought about ideal roleplay increases, so do the chances of the actual roleplaying being screwed up. You do not plan the entirety of your life/personality, after all; you simply live.

Frankly, I picture Lusternia no different then an MMORPG. There is a storyline, yes. Not many actually care about it though. There's a few rp only games I play, no fighting or anything. My friends in each say it's almost impossible to mix rp + fighting. It's true as well. Lusternia comes down to the fighters not giving a crap about rp, though they'll claim they do for the sake of rep....but they don't.

In our defense, Fay was blinking and bouncing at the Ravenwood. She's also a Celestine(or was?) which Daed and I obviously don't enjoy being around. We asked what she needed, she just bounced and blinked. We tried to interract but there was no response other than the same emote over and over.

No, we don't like her RP but we didn't chase her out of Glomdoring for it. I moved her out because of our IC interactions...and I figured it'd be better than Daedy killing her. :/

You know, I don't think that I've ever seen you write something positive about the game...All that I've seen from you are complaints and constant pointing out of Lusternia's failures and shortcomings. If the game bothers you so much, why do you still come? You say that you have other games that you enjoy, why not just play them and not bother with one that only causes dissapointment in your eyes? I'm not judging you, but I am honestly confused and curious.

I don't still play, I haven't actually played in quite a few months infact. I only log onto Lusternia because it's force of habit, also when I log into the 5-6 different games on my zmud it's on the row.. if I don't click it it kinda screws it all up. Plus someone's always leaving me messages. It's an addiction, not a neccesity!

There was times that I praised Lusternia. But ever since monks were introduced, the game has ceased to even be worth playing. It's just a mere amusement now.