I'm not trying to prove it. I am asking if it's a Bad Thing.

And yes, it sure does look copy/pasted.

Hrm I wouldn't think pasting a Role PM would be a "bad thing" considering it is a common practice in almost all mafia games (as is fabricating a Role PM). Maybe copy/pasting a night action or a priveleged conversation with the mod, that would be a bad thing. Also if it is against Xavius's rules, I dont think Revan should be punished, mabe just given a warning. He probably didnt read the rules lol.

Also Shayle, why are you so concerned about Revan's possible rule breaking? Do you want a Bad Thing to happen to him? ...

Balizar's a townie, I can vouch for him.

My "concern" is wanting to know the rules. I don't care if it's Revan doing it, or you, or me, I'd still be "concerned".

Paranoia is a Bad Thing too.

I actually think that Revan vouching for Bali and Bali vouching for Revan doesn't do much to make me think either of them are townies. I can't vouch for anyone. I feel left out.

I'm not voting now either...but my vote is now between Revan, Furien, and Bali. All three are acting scummy. I still am turning Vis' evidence post over in my head. Could be scum...could just be stupid.

It seems like we can easily prove it... it looks exactly like the Arix's vanilla-flavour-thing-from-Mod, so if he's mod-killed, he copy&pasted. Otherwise, he went out of his way to make it *look* like a mod-PM about his role, without it actually being his role. So I guess we wait for Xavius.

(Just compare it to what we found out about Arix... exact same wording, exact same everything, except for name & job. Thus, if he didn't quote, one of those two things is wrong.)

So, Revan told Bali that he was for the NAWO and Bali told Revan that he was for the NAWO and there you go. Finito. The end. What other proof do you need that someone is not a spy other than them telling you that they are not? That reasoning is tenuous at best. There have been a few us vehemently decrying our lynch candidates as completely, irrefutable scum, and not one of them has been.

I would like to echo Shayle's thoughts about suspicious characters, but I do not find myself as vascillating in one regard.

VOTE: VISAERIS

I'm going to Unvote: Revan for now, unless someone can convince me that his roleclaim is false. I just hope Rainbow Brite doesn't respond in yellow anymore. (j/k)

All these role claims, you'd think we'd just all role claim and see whose stories sounds the most different from the others? Unless Xavius is just that bad ass to vary his writing style so much to not be detectable that way.

I agree, it does seem suspicious of Bali and Revan, but I believe them at this point. I see no reason to doubt their story. If it turns out one is scum, at least we know who to target next.

Huh...why Visaeris? Explain?

Um excuse me but could you name one scummy thing I've posted so far? I've been extremely proactive in this game and I have left multiple breadcrumbs all pointing to the fact that I am town.



I was convinced at Revan's roleclaim by the speed at which he produced it. I simply asked for it and he gave it to me. He couldn't have made it up in under two minutes.

I think Xenthos and Rauros are scum. I am undecided about Duke but I think he/(she?) might be scum as well. They are all too quick to point fingers and make accusations, but very often reveal anything about themselves or make a statement of real merit. If you analyze Rauros's posting trends he seems to follow Xenthos and a few other people in succession. Duke just now voted for Visaeris and didnt even give a reason. These should be blatant warning signs. Take a look at this:





Do you see a pattern? I do.

Page 13, when we found the slip of paper on Shamarah's body. Not Arix's claim himself, but the compilation that Shamarah was able to make on Arix's life.

Wow Shiri, you may not be scum, but you're an irrefutable pompous . I can't spell or write properly? Right, not my fault that my keyboard can be screwy. Please, think before you spew , and don't diss my writing skills.

Uh not to nitpick, but why aren't Visaeris and Shiri and Othero bolded too?

Selective finger pointing. Makes me even more suspicious of Bali now.

Shiri could be convinced that voting for Revan was a wrong choice. Also he is pretty blatantly town. Visaeris despite his efforts I think was just trying to do the write thing with the information he was given. I also am pretty sure he's town. Othero on the otherhand, he's made multiple good townie-esq posts, but it could go either way because he is a good player. Also he hasn't associated himself much with the afformentioned bolded people.

Really, thats just my opinion. I think all the people I bolded are scum.

You're killin me...

do the RIGHT* thing, btw.

I've played several games with Othero and I just know he's a sneaky little bugger. My previous experiences with him tell me I shouldn't make assumptions about him unless somehow get cold hard proof or an amazing roleclaim. If you go back and analyze Rauros's posting habits, he makes very quaint non-chalant posts and seems to always manage a shakey reason for a lynch vote. I'm just not buying it.

Xenthos on the otherhand. He was quick to post about the conversation Visaeris and I had over bellator (well actually most of it was in private, and during the night - we eventually came to the conclusion of mutual trust without roleclaim) now normally this wouldn't be a big deal, but painting in the light he did, he tried to make it seem like Visaeris and I "were up to something" other than trying to join the conversation with us, etc. His posts have also been very short and lacking. The more he attacks townies, the more ammo to my arsenal.