Diamondais2008-06-16 01:21:10
Guys talk too much and there's a really bad storm outside.
I would say Shiri (he can be annoying when he's hounding after information) is not scum, but I only listened into him on the one night and he just watched himself.
But I don't quite know about anyone else.
I would say Shiri (he can be annoying when he's hounding after information) is not scum, but I only listened into him on the one night and he just watched himself.
But I don't quite know about anyone else.
Unknown2008-06-16 01:22:31
QUOTE(Rauros)
Selective finger pointing. Makes me even more suspicious of Bali now.
Go ahead and be suspicious of me all you want. I dont give a hoot. What is suspicious is that instead of defending yourself you accuse and attack others. That is what is suspicious. Scum.
Xenthos2008-06-16 01:22:37
QUOTE(B_a_L_i @ Jun 15 2008, 09:09 PM) 521849
do the RIGHT* thing, btw.
I've played several games with Othero and I just know he's a sneaky little bugger. My previous experiences with him tell me I shouldn't make assumptions about him unless somehow get cold hard proof or an amazing roleclaim. If you go back and analyze Rauros's posting habits, he makes very quaint non-chalant posts and seems to always manage a shakey reason for a lynch vote. I'm just not buying it.
Xenthos on the otherhand. He was quick to post about the conversation Visaeris and I had over bellator (well actually most of it was in private, and during the night - we eventually came to the conclusion of mutual trust without roleclaim) now normally this wouldn't be a big deal, but painting in the light he did, he tried to make it seem like Visaeris and I "were up to something" other than trying to join the conversation with us, etc. His posts have also been very short and lacking. The more he attacks townies, the more ammo to my arsenal.
I've played several games with Othero and I just know he's a sneaky little bugger. My previous experiences with him tell me I shouldn't make assumptions about him unless somehow get cold hard proof or an amazing roleclaim. If you go back and analyze Rauros's posting habits, he makes very quaint non-chalant posts and seems to always manage a shakey reason for a lynch vote. I'm just not buying it.
Xenthos on the otherhand. He was quick to post about the conversation Visaeris and I had over bellator (well actually most of it was in private, and during the night - we eventually came to the conclusion of mutual trust without roleclaim) now normally this wouldn't be a big deal, but painting in the light he did, he tried to make it seem like Visaeris and I "were up to something" other than trying to join the conversation with us, etc. His posts have also been very short and lacking. The more he attacks townies, the more ammo to my arsenal.
I posted about it because Visaeris not only brought it up on Bellator's, but he sent me tells beforehand. He was getting really into it, going "I'm going to post this log and bring you down!" to which you made a response, and then it just... ended.
A few hours later, you're talking together about going after Alianna and he calls you his friend. Of course I'm going to mention it when the two of you make such a huge deal out of the fact it occurred. Further, I don't remember attacking Rika (I don't believe I voted for her). I'm keeping my vote on Revan for now, while I wait to see whether or not his post is acceptable. If it is (without commenting that it's okay to post PMs, despite the fact it says to never, ever quote the mod), then I would have to agree that he didn't actually quote the mod and something was changed in the roleclaim. Otherwise... if the rule was broken, it doesn't really matter. :/
It's not like he's in any danger of getting ninja-lynched, and I don't see a whole lot of reason to let up the pressure myself. I'm also not sure why you're not analyzing the Furien lynch votes, especially as you're picking three other people as scum (and ignoring Furien completely in your most recent accusation, while leaving your vote on her). Visaeris is the only person in the game with three votes on the "main target" (which Furien was to begin with).
That said, I'm somewhat curious as to Duke's reasoning for the Visaeris-vote.
Unknown2008-06-16 01:25:15
Isn't your waiting an admission of you thinking he is innocent?
Xenthos2008-06-16 01:27:27
QUOTE(B_a_L_i @ Jun 15 2008, 09:25 PM) 521855
Isn't your waiting an admission of you thinking he is innocent?
Would you mind telling me how you managed to get that out of a "I think it's a fake roleclaim, and we have a way to confirm it"?
Shiri2008-06-16 01:29:44
QUOTE(B_a_L_i @ Jun 16 2008, 02:25 AM) 521855
Isn't your waiting an admission of you thinking he is innocent?
Unknown2008-06-16 01:33:37
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I'm keeping my vote on Revan for now, while I wait to see whether or not his post is acceptable. If it is (without commenting that it's okay to post PMs, despite the fact it says to never, ever quote the mod), then I would have to agree that he didn't actually quote the mod and something was changed in the roleclaim. Otherwise... if the rule was broken, it doesn't really matter. :/
So basically you are waiting for Xavius to tell you whether or not Revan is lying or not. Any good mod will NOT do that. That is bad form in any mafia game.
You're waiting to see whether or not his post is acceptable. Ok, so what does that tell us? That basically conveys to me that you realize how good the role looks, and also realize Revan couldn't have come up with it on his own. So you come to the conclusion that almost everyone else already has, Revan is a townie and innocent. You "waiting" for Xavius to either modkill him or tell us he is lying is a very scummy thing to do because it is not in the best interest of the town.
Shiri2008-06-16 01:36:05
QUOTE(B_a_L_i @ Jun 16 2008, 02:33 AM) 521859
So basically you are waiting for Xavius to tell you whether or not Revan is lying or not. Any good mod will NOT do that. That is bad form in any mafia game.
You're waiting to see whether or not his post is acceptable. Ok, so what does that tell us? That basically conveys to me that you realize how good the role looks, and also realize Revan couldn't have come up with it on his own. So you come to the conclusion that almost everyone else already has, Revan is a townie and innocent. You "waiting" for Xavius to either modkill him or tell us he is lying is a very scummy thing to do because it is not in the best interest of the town.
You're waiting to see whether or not his post is acceptable. Ok, so what does that tell us? That basically conveys to me that you realize how good the role looks, and also realize Revan couldn't have come up with it on his own. So you come to the conclusion that almost everyone else already has, Revan is a townie and innocent. You "waiting" for Xavius to either modkill him or tell us he is lying is a very scummy thing to do because it is not in the best interest of the town.
Conversely, if Xavius -doesn't- modkill him and -doesn't- say quoting role PMs is ok, that means Revan was lying, and needs to be lynched, right?
Unknown2008-06-16 01:38:23
Xavius shouldn't say anything. If anything, he should send a PM to Revan with a warning (if he did quote).
-Because- If he does, it will really mess the integrity of things atm.
-Because- If he does, it will really mess the integrity of things atm.
Rauros2008-06-16 01:39:57
QUOTE(B_a_L_i @ Jun 15 2008, 09:22 PM) 521853
Go ahead and be suspicious of me all you want. I dont give a hoot. What is suspicious is that instead of defending yourself you accuse and attack others. That is what is suspicious. Scum.
You're being awfully defensive. And I see no reason to defend myself against your accusations, as there's no base to them, other than voting pattern (which isn't even consistant, as I never voted for Rika).
Unknown2008-06-16 01:45:31
I need to stop going to dinner, too much happens when I leave. In any case, addressing a few issues:
Duke's vote of me came out of nowhere, I'd love to know some reasoning on that. I was expecting Exeryte to lead the charge today
Xenthos: Regarding Balizar and the log, I brought it up to you for the explanations given: self-protection. I figured if at least one other person knew that Balizar was talking to me, if I roleclaimed to him and disappeared you could use that to my advantage. Part of the "i'm pissed off and gonna destroy you" thing was me thinking Balizar was scummy, but he explained himself adequately to me after I brought it up publicly. I wish I had a log cause I think the log would set the issue to rest.
Regarding Revan, I think he's legit, by virtue of the mutual field of trust with Balizar(we've come to a mutual trust for one another without the messiness of roleclaim), and he's traded roleclaims with Revan, and he vouches for Revan. That's enough for me, but I'm a trusting soul
Beyond that, what else.. uhhh.. Oh yeah, Bali: you're hurting your credibility by being retarded. Stop that. Because you being retarded reflects onto me since I've pretty definitively stated I think you're a townie. Stop being so defensive and Arix-like
Duke's vote of me came out of nowhere, I'd love to know some reasoning on that. I was expecting Exeryte to lead the charge today
Xenthos: Regarding Balizar and the log, I brought it up to you for the explanations given: self-protection. I figured if at least one other person knew that Balizar was talking to me, if I roleclaimed to him and disappeared you could use that to my advantage. Part of the "i'm pissed off and gonna destroy you" thing was me thinking Balizar was scummy, but he explained himself adequately to me after I brought it up publicly. I wish I had a log cause I think the log would set the issue to rest.
Regarding Revan, I think he's legit, by virtue of the mutual field of trust with Balizar(we've come to a mutual trust for one another without the messiness of roleclaim), and he's traded roleclaims with Revan, and he vouches for Revan. That's enough for me, but I'm a trusting soul
Beyond that, what else.. uhhh.. Oh yeah, Bali: you're hurting your credibility by being retarded. Stop that. Because you being retarded reflects onto me since I've pretty definitively stated I think you're a townie. Stop being so defensive and Arix-like
Unknown2008-06-16 01:46:42
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You're being awfully defensive. And I see no reason to defend myself against your accusations, as there's no base to them, other than voting pattern (which isn't even consistant, as I never voted for Rika).
I never said you voted for Rika?
Xavius2008-06-16 01:47:47
Creeeeak.
"What was that?"
Snap, snap, SMASH! Creeaaaaaaak!
"It's coming from upstairs!"
CRASH!
Out of nowhere, a bed falls through the ceiling and lands right on top of Revan! He is, indeed, quite dead.
I don't like swift modkills, but the rule exists almost primarily for roleclaims. No option. A quick survey of players who I have IM communication with voted to continue the day. Day three goes on without Revan.
Xenthos - Not voting
Bali - Voting Furien
Furien - Not voting
Silvanus - Not voting
Shiri - Not voting
Visaeris - Voting Furien
Duke of Ess - Voting Visaeris
Shayle - Not voting
Othero - Not voting
Ayisdra - Not voting
Exeryte - Not voting
Diamondais - Not voting
Rauros - Voting Revan
Casilu - Not voting
14 active, 8 to lynch
"What was that?"
Snap, snap, SMASH! Creeaaaaaaak!
"It's coming from upstairs!"
CRASH!
Out of nowhere, a bed falls through the ceiling and lands right on top of Revan! He is, indeed, quite dead.
I don't like swift modkills, but the rule exists almost primarily for roleclaims. No option. A quick survey of players who I have IM communication with voted to continue the day. Day three goes on without Revan.
Xenthos - Not voting
Bali - Voting Furien
Furien - Not voting
Silvanus - Not voting
Shiri - Not voting
Visaeris - Voting Furien
Duke of Ess - Voting Visaeris
Shayle - Not voting
Othero - Not voting
Ayisdra - Not voting
Exeryte - Not voting
Diamondais - Not voting
Rauros - Voting Revan
Casilu - Not voting
14 active, 8 to lynch
Unknown2008-06-16 01:48:11
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Beyond that, what else.. uhhh.. Oh yeah, Bali: you're hurting your credibility by being retarded. Stop that. Because you being retarded reflects onto me since I've pretty definitively stated I think you're a townie. Stop being so defensive and Arix-like
Lol yeah, I guess. Boredom is making me post too much >_<
Unknown2008-06-16 01:49:09
Oh and one thing I didn't address: Yes, I've voted for every person who's ended up lynched, usually in the middle of the pack. I don't think I've ever jumped on a lynch simply because it was the most numerous vote.
Every time I've voted I've done so for reasons that I've gone into detail. It's an unfortunate looking pattern for me, I concede, but all of my reasonings have been pretty sound and I stand by them. Sucks that we haven't hit a scum yet, but the logic and decisionmaking processes have been sound.
Fake Edit: Well :censor: Xavius :<
Every time I've voted I've done so for reasons that I've gone into detail. It's an unfortunate looking pattern for me, I concede, but all of my reasonings have been pretty sound and I stand by them. Sucks that we haven't hit a scum yet, but the logic and decisionmaking processes have been sound.
Fake Edit: Well :censor: Xavius :<
Unknown2008-06-16 01:49:22
Shiri2008-06-16 01:50:12
So...that means Revan was right. That means Balizar and Visaeris defending him is either -awfully- sneaky or they're comparatively in the clear for now.
That being the case:
Vote: Furien.
Pressure is also on Ayisdra for "don't have much to go on." We have plenty to go on. Stop hiding. FoS: Ayisdra. Exeryte could stand to be a bit noisier too!
That being the case:
Vote: Furien.
Pressure is also on Ayisdra for "don't have much to go on." We have plenty to go on. Stop hiding. FoS: Ayisdra. Exeryte could stand to be a bit noisier too!
Xenthos2008-06-16 01:52:03
Well... fsk.
I really didn't think Revan would actually copy/paste his role.
I really didn't think Revan would actually copy/paste his role.
Unknown2008-06-16 01:52:44
Hopefully Revan eating it is sufficient to set aside fears of the "zomg Bali/Vis/Revan IC TRIO". It's a turn of events but I suppose if it puts the sabre-rattling against Balizar (and hopefully me) to rest, it's a half decent tradeoff.
I agree that Ayisdra needs to post more.. We definitely have plenty to go on. I'll stop short of echoing Shiri's FoS but it does make me a bit wary. We still haven't heard from Silvanus too much.. I want to see some thoughts from you, son.
I agree that Ayisdra needs to post more.. We definitely have plenty to go on. I'll stop short of echoing Shiri's FoS but it does make me a bit wary. We still haven't heard from Silvanus too much.. I want to see some thoughts from you, son.
Rauros2008-06-16 01:53:03
Hey, I unvoted Revan. Bloody mods...