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Xenthos - Not voting Bali - Voting Arix Furien - Voting Exeryte Silvanus - Voting Shiri Shamarah - Voting Arix Revan - Voting Furien Shiri - Voting Rika Visaeris - Voting Arix Duke of Ess - Voting Furien Shayle - Not voting Othero - Voting Revan Arix - Voting Shamarah Ayisdra - Voting no lynch Rika - Not voting Exeryte - Not voting Diamondais - Voting Rika Rauros - Voting Shayle Casilu - Voting Arix
18 active, 10 to lynch No lynch
EDIT (because I'm the mod): Ok, so it's page eight now. Deal with it. I'm going to bed.
Arix2008-06-09 07:07:07
Vote remains as is, going to bed, see you tomorrow
Silvanus2008-06-09 07:08:21
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jun 9 2008, 01:56 AM) 519472
1. Not my fault! Deal with it. 2. You don't know that at all, actually. There are vanillas with post restrictions for this kind of reason. 3. Unnecessary roleclaims are bad for town as they give the mafia an actual target (if, as you suspect, I have a town role that does something). Considering you then in point 5 talk about how mafia are going to want to target people with roles that do something... 4. Um, what? Town needs lynches. Of COURSE mafia want to lynch the wrong people since the town has to lynch, and SKs don't care who is lynched, but that doesn't prevent townies needing them! Wanting to lynch isn't a comment on -anyone's- allegiance (though not wanting to lynch is, as that benefits scum only.) 5. Right. ...so you want to help the mafia by killing their targets before they have to get around to it?
FoS Silvanus for reasons above.
Unvote: Shiri
After I posted, I realized you'll get investigated first night anyways too, so I'll just wait for Day two to be able to get rid of the stupid annoying colors.
P.S. What does FoS mean?
Shiri2008-06-09 07:15:44
QUOTE(Silvanus @ Jun 9 2008, 08:08 AM) 519479
Unvote: Shiri After I posted, I realized you'll get investigated first night anyways too, so I'll just wait for Day two to be able to get rid of the stupid annoying colors.
P.S. What does FoS mean?
It means Finger of Suspicion. I wanted to keep my vote on Arix while still drawing attention to the contradiction/scumminess in your post. It doesn't have any mechanical effect in the game, I could have said "look at the contradiction/scumminess in Silvanus' post" but that way is traditional."
And yeah, by all means examine me at night if we have any uh...counterespionage experts in here. Since we can all talk at night, PM me with my role (so I know you're not BSing) and we'll discuss what to do.
Shamarah2008-06-09 10:32:41
QUOTE(Arix @ Jun 9 2008, 02:22 AM) 519449
I mean, Shiri, that I told everyone that I was making my last post until Sunday night and would be away from the computer for a very long time, and thus unable to post in response to people. Shamarah saw that and waited until he thought I was away to start a lynch train going, thinking I would be unable to post. But luckily my friend wanted to carpool so I had to wait for him, and had time to pop in and check the thread, otherwise I bet there would have been more votes to lynch, and half of them would use the 'well he isn't responding' excuse as a reason
You are giving me WAY too much credit. I don't even read the absences thread. I just think you're an idiot and a liability to the town.
Ayisdra2008-06-09 11:46:42
((Ok, a quick post before I leave for the day. I won't be on until tomorrow afternoon-evening EST either also people.))
UNVOTE, VOTE: ARIX
For reasons stated before, someone needs to die. No lynching helps the scum, thus we have to lynch someone everyday. Other than Shiri with his colours, which might prove useful to us later. Arix is a logical choice, as no matter what his role (even if it is a cop or doctor, there SHOULD be back-ups) is, we should be able to get away from the confusing words he might post and onto getting scum. If Arix is scum, it is even better.
Xenthos2008-06-09 11:59:27
QUOTE(Ayisdra @ Jun 9 2008, 07:46 AM) 519554
((Ok, a quick post before I leave for the day. I won't be on until tomorrow afternoon-evening EST either also people.))
UNVOTE, VOTE: ARIX
For reasons stated before, someone needs to die. No lynching helps the scum, thus we have to lynch someone everyday. Other than Shiri with his colours, which might prove useful to us later. Arix is a logical choice, as no matter what his role (even if it is a cop or doctor, there SHOULD be back-ups) is, we should be able to get away from the confusing words he might post and onto getting scum. If Arix is scum, it is even better.
Well, keep in mind that voting helps the scum even more, if we're pursuing non-scum (or if they're leading us towards non-scum). I haven't seen anything that really indicates Arix is scum-- this bandwagon is forming simply due to his style of play from the last game (those who are leading it have specifically stated such), which is kind of meh. Oh well.
We really don't have anything better at this point, as you say: I just wanted to point out that the scum would most likely *not* be pushing for a no-lynch right off the bat as it helps them more to vote for somebody.
I guess I'll just go ahead and vote: Arix.
Diamondais2008-06-09 12:20:47
Oh my you talk too much while some of us are asleep.
Keeping my vote in place for the moment.
(I'll try and be back after class)
Shiri2008-06-09 12:21:02
If Arix -does- roleclaim doctor or cop, btw, we need to stop to reconsider. This should be obvious but backups or no, anything they can do is valuable. I guess it depends on what he says though - it might be really convincing or not at all (I guess it also depends on how much you respect his ability to lie convincingly.)
If we don't go for him, I recommend Silvanus or Rika, but maybe someone else will have shown up by then.
@Xenthos: the thing with that is, voting no lynch can't possibly go wrong for them, whereas voting to lynch can. Basically, the scum more strongly benefit from lynching than not lynching, but they benefit more from not lynching than we do, which is an equally significant factor, and from the town's point of view it pretty much obsoletes the first part.
That said, both the people trying it have given up now, whether because they're town and understand the issue now, or scum and not very good at it, or scum and realise they're under serious scrutiny if they continue pushing for no lynch (or a combination of the last two.) So it's a moot point.
Xenthos2008-06-09 12:30:24
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jun 9 2008, 08:21 AM) 519563
@Xenthos: the thing with that is, voting no lynch can't possibly go wrong for them, whereas voting to lynch can. Basically, the scum more strongly benefit from lynching than not lynching, but they benefit more from not lynching than we do, which is an equally significant factor, and from the town's point of view it pretty much obsoletes the first part.
Right. I just wanted to point out that there was a bit more to the story than was evidenced in the post I quoted (I believe this is Ayisdra's first game, isn't it?).
Shiri2008-06-09 12:43:54
Yeah, this is his/her first game here, which is why I'm letting him/her off the hook for voting no lynch.
Diamondais2008-06-09 13:50:19
Also, no Lynch means nobody gets any actual information. We just go off assumptions which can lead to bad things.
And that yawn emote is terrible, I'll have to invent something to destroy those little crown-emotes for good.
Shiri2008-06-09 13:52:14
Wow, I thought we got rid of all the crown emotes ages ago. I still preferred the first ever batch, but this one will do.
EDIT: And a rules addendum: no amount of voting or unvoting will change the results of a lynch once met, even if the lynch condition is not immediately apparent.
Unknown2008-06-09 17:11:56
Arix, since we're 70% there, you should probably admit your role now dude. I realise your play from last game is not exactly the ideal way to pick a target, so if you've got something worthwhile in your defense now is probably the time to let us have it.
Exeryte2008-06-09 18:10:25
I'd like Arix to roleclaim too before I make any moves.
And knowing Xavius, it will probably be weird.
Unknown2008-06-09 18:11:54
Unvote:Revan as I have no real reason to suspect him and he has been talking.
For now my suspicion is on Arix. Even if that last game was your first, your doing a terrible job of defending yourself now. You look like a liability to the town and your close to a role claim. Only reason I'm not voting for you now is because I don't want you getting pushed into some ninja lynch.
@Visaeris: The post saying you saw me was at about 2 am for me, was not in the mood to think. I also do sort of watch the games without saying talking for a bit. The start of the games always confuse me, I don't do well with a lack of information.
Shayle2008-06-09 20:48:15
To be fair, it's not easy to defend yourself against the bandwagon once it starts. And the fact that Arix has been targetted simply because he didn't do a good job playing last time around makes it all the more difficult to defend himself. He's going to have to roleclaim, which I think kind of sucks for us, since if he IS a doctor or something good, he's gone come night, which puts us all at a disadvantage.
I'm still fascinated with Shiri's colored postings. Sometimes he posts in all one color...and other times, he splits his posts into more than one color. He seems to favor some colors over others, but I'm not entirely sure if that means anything. I'm so curious though...and I still don't think he's scum.
People I find suspicious: Rauros (for contributing very little in any of his posts) and Shamarah (because he's one of the smartest players I know).
I'm not convinced enough of anything to vote, but I am watching all the Arix voters with quite a bit of interest!
Arix2008-06-09 21:06:52
I'm a townie, do you REALLY think Xavius would give me powers? Use your brain.
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I still preferred the first ever batch, but this one will do.
