Eventru2008-06-11 23:00:45
QUOTE(Kaalak @ Jun 11 2008, 06:40 PM) 520579
So...the biologist in me sits up and takes notice at this one. One of the definitions of a species is that they are a group of organisms that can interbreed AND produce offspring that are fertile. Animals from two different species, by the definition, cannot produce fertile offspring. Exceptions of course include female Ligers, which are fertile.
Eventru are you saying that all the races, exception of humans, are actually different species?
Eventru are you saying that all the races, exception of humans, are actually different species?
Yes, actually, this was my understanding! Completely my own opinion here, and in no way canon, but formed after much studying of Lusternia...
Excluding Humans, Viscanti, and Illithoid, every race is the shard of an Elder God. Now, maybe possibly there might be some argument that a Dracnari could breed with a Dragon (I believe they are both shards of Dracnoris), but there's nothing to say either way on that.
Now, the three exception races. Humans are believed to be shards of Yudhe's Nameless Son, who introduced to Dynara the ultimate and surest way to produce a 'soul' in an Elder God - ie, connecting them to the Immanidivinus. I suppose in some way, that's carried through him and into his shards.
Viscanti, being an amalgam of races mixed and melded together by the Taint, would probably have something to do with the Excoroperditio energies - which, if true, would include Illithoid in it, as well. Though as they mixed with other races, assuming they can, I suppose a case could be made that they would become Viscanti several generations later, after breeding constantly with mortal races.
Again, all of this is purely supposition, and my own opinion, and in no, no way canon.
Unknown2008-06-11 23:01:53
QUOTE(Eventru @ Jun 11 2008, 06:32 PM) 520570
I believe (and this is far from cannon), from my understanding, that races cannot interbreed. That is to say, the Viscanti were the first instance (ie, the influence of the Taint) that allowed races to cross-breed. Later, humans came with Estarra, who likewise had the ability to crossbreed but without the physical mutations (more seamless melding of two races vs rather 'mad scientist' hack-slash-sown-together melding).
That said, I'm left wondering what it was about the Viscanti that allowed them to mix races (taint, I assume!), and if it is the Soulless juice of Kethuru, then I wonder if Illithoid could likewise crossbreed (see: Illithoid Kephera hybrids). It would be interesting to find out!
That said, I'm left wondering what it was about the Viscanti that allowed them to mix races (taint, I assume!), and if it is the Soulless juice of Kethuru, then I wonder if Illithoid could likewise crossbreed (see: Illithoid Kephera hybrids). It would be interesting to find out!
QUOTE(HELP ELFEN)
4.14.4 The Elfen Race
Descended from the Elder Goddess Elfenehoala, the elfen race have always
had a close affinity to the forests. They consider themselves the
saviors of Lusternia as they were who first discovered the ailing Fae,
spirits of nature, and healed them and likewise the forests. They are a
lithe, beautiful people, with delicate pointed ears and almond-shaped
eyes. Their skin tone ranges from alabaster white to some varying hues of
green. Though most Elfen still prefer forest communes, there are those
who have been drawn to city life.
Descended from the Elder Goddess Elfenehoala, the elfen race have always
had a close affinity to the forests. They consider themselves the
saviors of Lusternia as they were who first discovered the ailing Fae,
spirits of nature, and healed them and likewise the forests. They are a
lithe, beautiful people, with delicate pointed ears and almond-shaped
eyes. Their skin tone ranges from alabaster white to some varying hues of
green. Though most Elfen still prefer forest communes, there are those
who have been drawn to city life.
Problem solved.
Fae = Spirits. Not a race.
... though, still... wait... I forgot my point. Nevermind!
Kharaen2008-06-11 23:02:22
Perhaps allow for a setting of a second race when reincarnating, which would possess the default stats/advantages/disadvantages of the primary race, with a minor chance of stats increasing (with a random stat decreasing for each increase), and one advantage/disadvantage swapped with the secondary race (a disadvantage is added if the race has no disadvantage). You'd show up as half-primary in your HONOURS, but in your SCORE it'd state you secondary race next to your primary (and the effects created by the union of the two.) Maybe a person could only pick one secondary race throughout their lifetime, and each time they reincarnated thereafter, the secondary would would be taken in effect to the new reincarnation (unless they possessed the versatile nature of the changeling, and could thus change secondary races as well.)
Ex.
P: Loboshigaru / S: Furrikin,
Stats: 14STR, 13DEX, 16CON, 10INT, 13CHAR, 10 SIZE (Changes of +2 CHAR, -2 DEX, -3 Size)
GAIN: Racial language Furrikin, No longer resistant to fire.
LOSS: Level 3 Health regeneration, Level 2 Susceptible to magic.
The randomness of it would mean that it wouldn't get excercized much, but it'd provide legit roleplay for people who want to play a half race. Maybe Viscanti and Human can be the exception, in that they keep all of their base stats but inherit the language, and an advantage/disadvantage from the second race.
Ex.
P: Loboshigaru / S: Furrikin,
Stats: 14STR, 13DEX, 16CON, 10INT, 13CHAR, 10 SIZE (Changes of +2 CHAR, -2 DEX, -3 Size)
GAIN: Racial language Furrikin, No longer resistant to fire.
LOSS: Level 3 Health regeneration, Level 2 Susceptible to magic.
The randomness of it would mean that it wouldn't get excercized much, but it'd provide legit roleplay for people who want to play a half race. Maybe Viscanti and Human can be the exception, in that they keep all of their base stats but inherit the language, and an advantage/disadvantage from the second race.
Xenthos2008-06-11 23:02:29
QUOTE(Eventru @ Jun 11 2008, 07:00 PM) 520592
Yes, actually, this was my understanding! Completely my own opinion here, and in no way cannon, but formed after much studying of Lusternia...
Excluding Humans, Viscanti, and Illithoid, every race is the shard of an Elder God. Now, maybe possibly there might be some argument that a Dracnari could breed with a Dragon (I believe they are both shards of Dracnoris), but there's nothing to say either way on that.
Excluding Humans, Viscanti, and Illithoid, every race is the shard of an Elder God. Now, maybe possibly there might be some argument that a Dracnari could breed with a Dragon (I believe they are both shards of Dracnoris), but there's nothing to say either way on that.
Faeling?
Unknown2008-06-11 23:04:38
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Jun 11 2008, 07:02 PM) 520597
Faeling?
Half-shard??
Xenthos2008-06-11 23:06:25
QUOTE(Myrkr @ Jun 11 2008, 07:04 PM) 520599
Half-shard??
I'm not sure that's possible. Even other races, if mixed by human blood, still end up as specifically one race no matter how many superficial traits they've picked up from the others (you are Merian, or Elfen, or whatever, and that's the shard you've got).
Unknown2008-06-11 23:06:28
QUOTE(Eventru @ Jun 11 2008, 06:00 PM) 520592
Viscanti, being an amalgam of races mixed and melded together by the Taint, would probably have something to do with the Excoroperditio energies - which, if true, would include Illithoid in it, as well. Though as they mixed with other races, assuming they can, I suppose a case could be made that they would become Viscanti several generations later, after breeding constantly with mortal races.
I think the Illithoid spawns would be different from the Viscanti. Maybe a race similar but with different characteristics and obviously highly psionic
Shaddus2008-06-11 23:09:25
QUOTE(Kharaen d @ Jun 11 2008, 06:02 PM) 520596
Stuff
Are you suggestng asecondary race? So we could blend, say, an Illithoid and a Faeling, to get a Chuck Norris type Ninjakari? (( I kid))
Seriously, this would be interesting to look into.
Unknown2008-06-11 23:11:29
QUOTE('HELP FAELING')
Ever since the undead elfen Rowena Nightshade tricked Laeroc, Consort of
the Queen of the Fae into fathering her child, faelings who take the path
of the wyrden Great Nature Spirits of Night or Crow transform into shadow
faelings, a curious breed of faeling, larger than others of their kind,
with a dark complexion that seems to churn with shadows, more bat-like
wings, and eyes that glow with a somber red fire.
the Queen of the Fae into fathering her child, faelings who take the path
of the wyrden Great Nature Spirits of Night or Crow transform into shadow
faelings, a curious breed of faeling, larger than others of their kind,
with a dark complexion that seems to churn with shadows, more bat-like
wings, and eyes that glow with a somber red fire.
Rowena is an Elfen.
Laeroc is a Fae.
Together they made Faeling.
This isn't a multi-generational thing.
I demand Myrkr be able to have babies with her pixie, dammit! :: Eyeshift ::
Xenthos2008-06-11 23:13:17
QUOTE(Myrkr @ Jun 11 2008, 07:11 PM) 520613
Rowena is an Elfen.
Laeroc is a Fae.
Together they made Faeling.
This isn't a multi-generational thing.
I demand Myrkr be able to have babies with her pixie, dammit! :: Eyeshift ::
Laeroc is a Fae.
Together they made Faeling.
This isn't a multi-generational thing.
I demand Myrkr be able to have babies with her pixie, dammit! :: Eyeshift ::
What? It's always been Elfen & Fae == Faeling. Where are you getting multi-generational from? I was just saying that other races, when mixed, don't get "fragments of different shards," they get their one main shard which is their race, and then have superficial traits of other races. As such, if Faelings were to somehow get half a shard, they would be completely unique. Of course, they are unique anyways, but I'm not sure about the half-a-shard theory.
Rauros2008-06-11 23:15:24
QUOTE(Gregori @ Jun 11 2008, 05:54 PM) 520546
A poodle and a saint Bernard breeding may make a mutt, but it is still a dog.
A fae and an elfen breeding create a new race. Sure, you are "technically" conceived by an elf and fae and many would view you as a mutt, but you are all faeling.
A fae and an elfen breeding create a new race. Sure, you are "technically" conceived by an elf and fae and many would view you as a mutt, but you are all faeling.
Symbiogenesis.
Unknown2008-06-11 23:18:15
QUOTE(Myrkr @ Jun 11 2008, 06:11 PM) 520613
I demand Myrkr be able to have babies with her pixie, dammit! :: Eyeshift ::
will you post pics?
Unknown2008-06-11 23:26:22
QUOTE(Corinthian @ Jun 11 2008, 07:18 PM) 520620
will you post pics?
Might take a while to draw?
Unknown2008-06-12 00:43:58
I, personally, wonder what happens if a fae and something other than an elfen have kids. What's a pooka-Igasho baby look like?
Unknown2008-06-12 00:53:33
QUOTE(Greleag @ Jun 11 2008, 08:43 PM) 520656
I, personally, wonder what happens if a fae and something other than an elfen have kids. What's a pooka-Igasho baby look like?
A pooka trill might be something like Baphomet? I donno.
Though, the half fae half elfen thing allows for creativity.
What sort of fae blood do you have in you? A mixture of multiple, maybe?
Unknown2008-06-12 01:00:46
I'm still disturbed by the whole Faeling idea. A Fae Elfen cross breed? How did that line of thought even go. "Hey look, a spirit of the forest. Let's have sex with it!"
Unknown2008-06-12 01:03:13
QUOTE(Othero @ Jun 11 2008, 08:00 PM) 520660
I'm still disturbed by the whole Faeling idea. A Fae Elfen cross breed? How did that line of thought even go. "Hey look, a spirit of the forest. Let's have sex with it!"
It all started with the introduction of beers to the Pooka community in Faethorn
"Hey guys, check this out! Elfen and Pixie porn!"
*starts dominating said Elfen and Pixie*
Unknown2008-06-12 01:03:27
QUOTE(Othero @ Jun 11 2008, 09:00 PM) 520660
I'm still disturbed by the whole Faeling idea. A Fae Elfen cross breed? How did that line of thought even go. "Hey look, a spirit of the forest. Let's have sex with it!"
"Oh, hey, it's natural! I like nature! No, I *love* nature! Let me just set out a honeycake trap... then when they're not expecting it..."
Unknown2008-06-12 01:05:56
QUOTE(Myrkr @ Jun 11 2008, 08:03 PM) 520663
"Oh, hey, it's natural! I like nature! No, I *love* nature! Let me just set out a honeycake trap... then when they're not expecting it..."
Do not click on this. Explicit Mudkip action
Unknown2008-06-12 02:04:46
QUOTE(Corinthian @ Jun 11 2008, 09:05 PM) 520665
... do I want to know how you found this?
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I'd really like to know what the deal is here. I mean, we can all discuss it, obviously, but I feel like that this is a backstory element in Lusternia that should have some input from more than one admin.