The following log snipit comes from a fight I had with Karnagan. Just to get it out of the way, I suck, I am a lolppk monk, and he kicked my ass until I had to run like a little girl.
Having said that on reviewing my log (need to learn from every ass kicking!
) I noticed the following section which just seemed odd to me.
10:17:52a | You lock Karnagan's left arm in a solid grapple using your left arm.
10:17:52a | Drawing back your right fist, you punch Karnagan in the chest.
10:17:52a | 6667h, 5646m, 6151e, 2p exk<>-
10:17:52a | You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
10:17:52a | 6667h, 5646m, 6151e, 2p exk<>-
10:17:52a | Karnagan takes some salve from a vial and rubs it on his head.
10:17:52a | 6667h, 5646m, 6151e, 2p exk<>-apply health to legs
10:17:52a |
10:17:52a | You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your legs.
10:17:52a | The deep damage in your left leg partially heals.
10:17:52a | 6667h, 5646m, 6151e, 2p exk<>-
10:17:53a | You have recovered balance on your right arm.
10:17:53a | You have recovered balance on your left arm.
10:17:53a | You swiftly grab Karnagan and hurl him forcefully to the ground.
10:17:53a | Drawing back your right fist, you punch Karnagan in the head.
10:17:53a | You leap into the air and kick out at Karnagan, but you fall short and miss.
10:17:53a | 6667h, 5646m, 6151e, 2p exk<>-
10:17:53a | You have recovered balance on your right leg.
10:17:53a | 6667h, 5646m, 6151e, 2p exk<>-
10:17:54a | You have recovered balance on your right arm.
10:17:54a | You have recovered balance on your left arm.
10:17:55a | You lock Karnagan's left arm in a solid grapple using your left arm.
10:17:55a | You strike out at Karnagan, but your fist misses by mere inches.
10:17:55a | 6667h, 5646m, 6151e, 2p exk<>-
10:17:55a | Karnagan carefully writhes out of your grapple, escaping your grasp.
Note the timestamps. I locked Karnagan left arm in a grapple, and then one second latter (this was under hyperactive) I toss him, breaking the grapple. Two second later I grapple the same left arm again, but he instantly writhes out of it.
My suspicion is that the writhe code is still writhing out of the first grapple despite the fact that the toss should have canceled it. I will have to test to see if changing the grappled limb would still show this but I wanted to put this out there for comment first. I can BUG this in game if this really is a bug, but for all I know this is how writhe and grapple are supposed to work.
Also just to be clear, even if this was a bug it had no large impact on the fight, I would have still gotten my ass kicked.
Having said that on reviewing my log (need to learn from every ass kicking!
) I noticed the following section which just seemed odd to me.QUOTE
10:17:52a | You lock Karnagan's left arm in a solid grapple using your left arm.
10:17:52a | Drawing back your right fist, you punch Karnagan in the chest.
10:17:52a | 6667h, 5646m, 6151e, 2p exk<>-
10:17:52a | You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
10:17:52a | 6667h, 5646m, 6151e, 2p exk<>-
10:17:52a | Karnagan takes some salve from a vial and rubs it on his head.
10:17:52a | 6667h, 5646m, 6151e, 2p exk<>-apply health to legs
10:17:52a |
10:17:52a | You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your legs.
10:17:52a | The deep damage in your left leg partially heals.
10:17:52a | 6667h, 5646m, 6151e, 2p exk<>-
10:17:53a | You have recovered balance on your right arm.
10:17:53a | You have recovered balance on your left arm.
10:17:53a | You swiftly grab Karnagan and hurl him forcefully to the ground.
10:17:53a | Drawing back your right fist, you punch Karnagan in the head.
10:17:53a | You leap into the air and kick out at Karnagan, but you fall short and miss.
10:17:53a | 6667h, 5646m, 6151e, 2p exk<>-
10:17:53a | You have recovered balance on your right leg.
10:17:53a | 6667h, 5646m, 6151e, 2p exk<>-
10:17:54a | You have recovered balance on your right arm.
10:17:54a | You have recovered balance on your left arm.
10:17:55a | You lock Karnagan's left arm in a solid grapple using your left arm.
10:17:55a | You strike out at Karnagan, but your fist misses by mere inches.
10:17:55a | 6667h, 5646m, 6151e, 2p exk<>-
10:17:55a | Karnagan carefully writhes out of your grapple, escaping your grasp.
Note the timestamps. I locked Karnagan left arm in a grapple, and then one second latter (this was under hyperactive) I toss him, breaking the grapple. Two second later I grapple the same left arm again, but he instantly writhes out of it.
My suspicion is that the writhe code is still writhing out of the first grapple despite the fact that the toss should have canceled it. I will have to test to see if changing the grappled limb would still show this but I wanted to put this out there for comment first. I can BUG this in game if this really is a bug, but for all I know this is how writhe and grapple are supposed to work.
Also just to be clear, even if this was a bug it had no large impact on the fight, I would have still gotten my ass kicked.
O_O Yeah, I ended up being called away to things more important than beatin' on you. I don't know how the HECK monks can continue to regard double leg tendon like it ain't no thing, but whatever, we'll run with it. At any rate, that was definitely an informative fight. You didn't RP with me after, which made me sad. 
Mwaahahaah!
Mwaahahaah!
QUOTE(Karnagan @ Jun 15 2008, 11:51 AM) 521751
O_O Yeah, I ended up being called away to things more important than beatin' on you. I don't know how the HECK monks can continue to regard double leg tendon like it ain't no thing, but whatever, we'll run with it. At any rate, that was definitely an informative fight. You didn't RP with me after, which made me sad.
Mwaahahaah!
Mwaahahaah!
Sorry! But honestly I am not sure what I would even have atellus say. Clearly Karnagan has fully embraced the Taint so no debate would be possible. There would be no reason to admit to a sworn enemy that he was weak. I know that makes for some dull interaction out of combat but I have just never been the type to RP someone who talks with clear enemies.
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jun 15 2008, 05:48 PM) 521837
Yeah, this has been "bugged" for a long time (or just left intact and not a bug, same thing here), but hasn't been fixed with good reason: if it weren't a single newbie monk could keep any given target permanently proned.
Ah that makes sense. I suspect the code just removes one grapple affect when it finishes and to "fix" this something more complex would need to be done. I think a cleaner method of doing this would be a grapple immunity, similar to the stun immunity, but if this is the way things are balanced around now I can see how it would not be changing.
I already bugged the issue in game as some Divine Voice told me to (and I always do what the voices in my head say!) but I assume it will just be deleted on review. Thanks for the replies though!
