Mindlink

by Zalandrus

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Zalandrus2008-06-17 12:57:55
Mindlink is supposed to be a fear-inspiring weapon in the telepath's arsenal, but as of now, all it does is give an extra channel of communication with the few other telepaths in the land and, with Hivemind, a small ego boost. To make the telepathy help file more accurate, here are some ideas for what else mindlinks can do, ranging from the fairly simple to the very fanciful (most of these being scaled with how many fellow link members are in the area):

-Boost to ego regen
-Boost to influencing ability
-Boost to mana regen and/or mana
-Decreased damage from ego-draining attacks (ie psychicvampirism, even attacking mob counter-influencing)
-Any ego-harming attacks on one member of the link will be split to some degree among all members of the link in the same area
-Boost to magic damage
-Boost to psychic vampirism, and/or mindblast damage

-Mindlink members can defer themselves to the will of the link leader; when the leader moves, any link member who activates this will automatically move with the leader (like a follow, but harder to break ie through eq/balance loss)

-If all members of a mindlink but one are together, the majority can take time to summon the missing member; power cost to initiator or all members; nobody can move while waiting; higher costs and longer time for trans-planar summoning

-Mindlink leader can, at the cost of lots of power, try to make everybody in the link perform the same activity simultaneously (think simultaneous group staffing from a distance?)

-A special instantkill: mindlink must have at least X members; all must be in the same room as target; mindlink members must all independently do MINDLINK FOCUS , which has a moderate eq loss and/or power cost; when everybody's focused on a target, somebody/the link leader can MINDLINK OVERWHELM for an instant kill. The more members in the link, the faster the kill is when it's initiated, but at the cost of being harder to pull off

-A high-power ability: members of a mind link can "sacrifice" their sub channels, which acts like their sub channels being locked. Leader can then activate the ability, which will afflict a target simultaneously with a number of telepathy sub channel-related afflictions that equals the number of members sacrificing their sub channels (ie, 4 other members of a link, all sacrifice their sub channels, leader can at once release 4 telepathy afflictions on the target); and/or a similar option for id (but not super)

Some of these are probably OP, but the point is to give mindlink something cool, new, and useful. Discuss!
Unknown2008-06-17 17:26:06
OP8

All it would take is for the main leader to simultaneously get all members to vamp the target and have one person mindburst

Good thoughts though!
Dysolis2008-06-17 17:43:51
yesss , Implement please! heh.
Dysolis2008-06-17 17:58:22
if all this is implimented in Mindlink ,the skill would obviously instead of being first be moved up to near trans at least.
Dysolis2008-06-17 18:16:56
Regarding sacrficing the sub channel, perhaps instead

In order to sacrifice all three channels you need to have a mindlink of four or greater.
- Sacrifice Sub , super and ID for a limited time at the cost of five power.
- sub and ID will passively afflict with afflictions based on their channel speeds
- Super can be used for Mind Blast or Vamprism , will strike at random.

While all three channels are sacrificed passively this will allow freedom between the balances and you are able to do other things such as staffing , using phantasms or illusions. Anything that can come to mind.
Celina2008-06-17 19:52:41
QUOTE(Zalandrus Meyedsun @ Jun 17 2008, 07:57 AM) 522476
Mindlink is supposed to be a fear-inspiring weapon in the telepath's arsenal


What? Since when? Telepathy is already an amazing tertiary, it needs a buff like Inquisition needs a buff. Oh...wait. Damn.

It still doesn't need a buff.

Mindlink works just fine as it is now. It provides a pretty substantial ego boost if you have 5 or 6 telepaths around. I've been apart of wildnodes with 6 TPs and my ego was amazing.

Mindlink isn't supposed to be instant win for an already powerful tertiary, which is kind of what you are making it. A team insta? Telepaths can already do that with some basic triggers and a command over ct.

Dysolis. Lol. Passive mindblasts with staff? Seriously?

Dysolis2008-06-17 20:06:08
Dear Celina,The stipulation for the sacrifice is more than enough. If we are able to acquire enough telepaths for a gigantic mind-link we should be awarded for the progress. Also note that these where originally Zalandru's submissions and I think he meant that some of them where OP to begin with. If we had passive channels up then we could time it with shatter. Shattering the psionic defense then allow the passive channels to stack after-words would be useful.
Xenthos2008-06-17 20:19:02
QUOTE(Dysolis @ Jun 17 2008, 02:16 PM) 522525
Regarding sacrficing the sub channel, perhaps instead

In order to sacrifice all three channels you need to have a mindlink of four or greater.
- Sacrifice Sub , super and ID for a limited time at the cost of five power.
- sub and ID will passively afflict with afflictions based on their channel speeds
- Super can be used for Mind Blast or Vamprism , will strike at random.

While all three channels are sacrificed passively this will allow freedom between the balances and you are able to do other things such as staffing , using phantasms or illusions. Anything that can come to mind.

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Celina2008-06-17 22:02:16
QUOTE(Dysolis @ Jun 17 2008, 03:06 PM) 522538
Dear Celina,The stipulation for the sacrifice is more than enough. If we are able to acquire enough telepaths for a gigantic mind-link we should be awarded for the progress. Also note that these where originally Zalandru's submissions and I think he meant that some of them where OP to begin with. If we had passive channels up then we could time it with shatter. Shattering the psionic defense then allow the passive channels to stack after-words would be useful.


No. Just....no. Passive telepathy will never happen.
Malarious2008-06-17 22:04:59
QUOTE(Dysolis @ Jun 17 2008, 02:16 PM) 522525
Regarding sacrficing the sub channel, perhaps instead

In order to sacrifice all three channels you need to have a mindlink of four or greater.
- Sacrifice Sub , super and ID for a limited time at the cost of five power.
- sub and ID will passively afflict with afflictions based on their channel speeds
- Super can be used for Mind Blast or Vamprism , will strike at random.

While all three channels are sacrificed passively this will allow freedom between the balances and you are able to do other things such as staffing , using phantasms or illusions. Anything that can come to mind.


Did you also say you wanted to be able to use normal things..? This woudlnt be a sacrifice.. its what telepaths already do PLUS active stuff!

Get off the pipe Dys ole man!
Zalandrus2008-06-17 23:57:11
To respond to Celina, near the beginning:

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Most famously, telepaths can create mental nets with each other, allowing superior communication.
Ok, so I misremembered the HELP TELEPATHY file, but still, the skill telepaths are "most famously" known for is not at all the part mindlinks are good for, much less the part that is most used or most useful. My whole point with this thread is to offer ideas to give mindlink some other cool effects which might or might not be useful in combat but would at the very least give mindlink another purpose.

Again to Celina's point, 5 or 6 telepaths in a link might give a substantial ego boost, but how easy is it to get 5 or 6 telepaths in the realms at once? Telepathy seems to be not as popular in the Aquamancers as before, or at least, the other tertiaries (telekinesis and dreamweaving, at least...poor runes) seems to be gathering a slightly larger gathering. That's my general impression though, so statistics could prove me wrong. I'm kinda comparing a mindlink to a coven in terms of the members needed to do something; the most powerful coven abilities require 13 members, I believe? And since everybody in the Wicca guild can join the coven (plus some warriors), it sets a certain level of difficulty to pull those skills off. With telepathy, I thought 5/6 members was a pretty large link, so I offered something extra-cool and special for a link of that size.

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Telepathy is already an amazing tertiary, it needs a buff like Inquisition needs a buff.


Inquisition is a skill, so the correct comparison would have been "Mindlink is already an amazing skill, it needs a buff like Inquisition needs a buff." Except, wait, mindlink isn't an amazing skill. Hence this thread.

Btw, I wasn't suggesting that ALL of those things above be implemented at once...that'd be ridiculous. I was bringing out ideas that could be picked and chosen from.

And Dysolis, to your suggestion, while that sounds cool, that also falls into the category of way OP tongue.gif. It also kind of sounds like TK daggers.

Celina2008-06-18 00:05:45
It's a passive boost to your ego and it functions like Broadcast for anyone in the link. It's fine as it is. Just because there are a lack of Telepaths doesn't mean you change how drastically mindlink effects you.
Ashai2008-06-19 01:23:56
I'm sorry, are telepaths complaining? What?
Celina2008-06-19 02:28:31
QUOTE(Ashai @ Jun 18 2008, 08:23 PM) 522966
I'm sorry, are telepaths complaining? What?


Psh. Dreamweaving is so OP. And ecology is just obscene. OP druid tertiaries. You don't even NEED demesnes.