I wanted to hear something from you about the slip-up first... for all I knew, he was just subtly making fun of you with the vote count thing. One colored word isn't a clear signal, you know. In any case, I'm satisfied with your explanation about that particular inconsistency. Really hope that effect's gone tomorrow, though. Again, it's irritating.

How long's Ryleth supposed to be gone, again?

about 30 hours (from 2:15am EST)

There's still a lot of nothing going on. Bali, though - do note that Daganev had an illusion ability, so the idea that you could manipulate something he posted isn't entirely unsound.

I'm thinking you have more to say about this colour thing then you're saying, or it's a sham.

Vote: B_a_l_i

The color thing is genuine enough, I'm certain. I gave Shamarah a prod first to make sure he saw the non-purpled post, and it was shortly after that that the magenta count showed up, and Bali suddenly seemed interested in defending his purple thing again... and it was only after that that I asked him about that one post. It fits with the story of him getting a warning, but not an insta-kill for the behavior.

I'm probably a terrible jerk for pulling that trick, but the whole deal struck me as suspicious at the time, and I felt the need to investigate. I'm certain that Bali's color affliction is genuine now, and that there's no need to pressure him further for that. You can lay off him for now.

That said, I'm out of leads, and I'm horribly, horribly impatient. Someone else make the call, here... should we lay off Ryleth and risk letting a reasonably suspicious person off the hook for another game night, or let the game just sit for a real life day as we're waiting?

Thanks for the prompt, relevant, and comprehensive response.

Unvote: B_a_l_i

Now if I could only figure out what happens next...

I think I've got this info all right...

As far as Xavius's posts go, he stuck largely to Mafia theory and arguing over the logic of "enfranchising angels." He showed hints of camaraderie towards Druken and Hazar, but these could largely be dismissed as joking and/or Glomdoring ties. He may have deliberately confused Ayisdra and Ryleth in an attempt to throw alignment suspicions off of them, but this is unlikely in my mind. He voted for Silvanus, Revan, Daganev (dead,) Hazar, and Ryleth over the course of the previous day.

On the "who killed Shiri?" thought line, the following people who played last game are in this game: Silvanus, Alianna (Furien,) Rika, Xenthos, Ayisdra, Balizar, Casilu, Arix, Hazar, Revan, Visaeris

Also, when does Okin generally come around? I've noticed a certain lack of posts. Australian or not. Don't think we've seen much of Silvanus either.

Well. Right now, I'm looking for the collection of Mafia oriented votes.

The first thing to keep in mind is, all the Mafia can talk amongst themselves. They know their abilities, and they know when the envoy reports will particularly disadvantage them. So, of course the Mafia would be adamant against angels getting recognition- why not, if the angels literally aren't on their side? Next, the Mafia would probably not want to get the serial killers snuffed out. Why would they? Daganev is almost certainly responsible for Rauros' death- that is, at the very start of the mafia when every target on the board was ripe for the serial killer. A serial killer snuffing out townies is great for the Mafia- it's a target that can provoke a wild witch-hunt until he is down. With no connections to the Mafia and not particularly interested in defending anyone, a serial killer can be a powerful advantage for the scum- as long as he isn't killing Mafia.

Third and most critical. The Mafia is going to want to talk us out of helping the Vigilante. A Sacraments user with a grudge just executed Xavius during the night phase. Wouldn't it be awfully convenient for the Mafia if he could be limited in his movements and effectiveness? If the vigilante is a member of Team Lusternia, as someone with Sacraments probably is, then the Mafia wants him gone ASAP.

He's voted against the angels that might help us. He has a vested interest in making sure we don't give our Sacraments user full freedom of action. He switched votes between Thul, Daganev, Silvanus, Revan, and Kaervas (me), who I know is DEFINITELY not scum. His votes seem to be random bandwagon joining without focusing on a single threat to the town. He discouraged nailing Ayisdra to the wall for not voting down Daganev- even when Daganev was sticking his neck out on the line while she was active, begging to be killed. No townie or smart mafiosi does that.

That's why VISAERIS has to die. I may not have long to stay alive- the major problem with last night is that a roaring noise tried to throw me off my game. I'm not sure if it was Xavius or one of his cronies. The point is, I know I'm a good guy, and I know that the Mafia is gunning for me right now, because they wouldn't waste a disruption on someone who doesn't have a good role.

VOTE: Visaeris

Oh. Yeah. Forgot the unvote.


UNVOTE: Ryleth
VOTE: Visaeris


Better explain your luck, Visaeris, because by sheer coincidence all your votes or lack of them seem to be hurting this town.

It was _A_ roar skill, Bali. If there's another one of those things around, it could very well have been them. But I'm taking no chances, as being blocked once means the Mafia knows my name and wants me dead. How convenient, eh, if some of them could have me hanged by the villagers? Saves them the trouble of worrying exactly who is going to be protecting me tonight, and with what.

Like I said. Visaeris blocked the angel vote. Now it becomes clear that the scum very much wanted this to happen, as there's a vigilante out there who is on our side. As scum, Visaeris also wants us to not protect the Celestine- why? Because that killer is going to attack anyone who seems scummy, and certainly will if they have Investigate powers, or can talk with someone who has those powers.



Again- why is Visaeris trying to cast doubt on the Lusternian? Because he's scum and wants to make sure we lose. I'd feel a little better about this if his interests hadn't previously intersected with Xavius', who we definitely know was Mafia.



He was the fifth person to vote with the anti-angel crowd. We've already established that Xavius, first to do so, was as Mafia as Tony Soprano.

Not to mention, Visaeris saw Ayisdra withdraw her anti-Daganev vote and instead want an explanation from him, after he blatantly called Thul out as an investigator. Yeah. Why doesn't the scum just go ahead and paint a bullseye on Thul's forehead? She's either a very poor player, or a mafia who wanted the slimmest veneer of deniability.



I'm telling you- if Visaeris is REALLY looking for a chance that someone could be a Mafia, as opposed to the idea that we need to find and kill a townie, she's suspicious. Heck, she was one of the first people to jump on the anti-angel train. And now it's quite clear that the man with the angel is going to be saving our lives as a town.

AND WHY DO I KEEP CALLING HIM A GIRL. Stupid feminine sounding name!!

... does blocking generally give the name and information of the person getting blocked? It hasn't for the most part in the games here (excepting the last one, which was weird on a number of levels). If they knew someone had a good role, I'd expect them to kill that person, not use a roleblock (which is often a shot in the dark)...

Well, yeah, Xenthos. Except, if they're trying to get the person I'm protecting, and they only have one kill per night- as Xavius' entry clearly showed- then they need to try and disrupt me. Just in case.

Is my name really that feminine sounding?

As to your comment abut me being a 'very poor player', this is only my 2nd game of mafia...I'm sorry that I don't know how to look at every single post and tell if something is a hidden roleclaim to help the town or something scummy yet.

Hey, sorry. Maybe it's me being a bit unpleasant, and for that I'm sorry. But maybe you're a mafia trying to hide under the cover of being new. Far as I can tell, Shammy doesn't just give roles to experienced players.