20 seconds for each spirit to decay if they stay away from the SS is a bit dumb, that should probably be shaved down to 10-13 at least, especially given the fact that attaching spirits to the victim in the first place doesn't take that much eq. I wouldn't be averse to focus spirit curing a spirit too if you'd rather not the timer be cut down.

One thing I'm insanely jealous about is their ability to keep people in Octave
perfect-fifth
ancient fued blocking movement
and now an instant summon back

It's rather nice but possibly OP? We'll have to see

Yeah, but all three are blocked by the same thing (deafness), so if you can get out of one, you get out of all of them.

You slam your forehead into the skull of Xiel, who reels backwards and is
stunned by the blow.
Xiel is knocked off his feet by the force of the blow.
10458h, 4379m, 6000e, 10p, 30888en, 24868w elrkdb<>-
Xiel begins to weep uncontrollably.
10458h, 4360m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24879w elrkdb<>-
You have recovered balance on all limbs.
10458h, 4360m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24879w elrxkdb<>-
In a swift, fluid motion, Xiel springs up from his hands to land crouched on his
feet.
10458h, 4360m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24879w elrxkdb<>-
(Jhagar): Melville says, "That he can inquisition, aeon, sleep and keel me."
10458h, 4400m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24893w elrxkdb<>-sparkle

Your eyes sparkle with amusement.
10458h, 4400m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24893w elrxkdb<>-
(Bellator Societas): Xiel says, "Greef."
10458h, 4400m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24893w elrxkdb<>-
(Bellator Societas): Visaeris says, "Dont do it its a trap."
10458h, 4381m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24904w elrxkdb<>-clt10 lol

(Bellator Societas): You say, "Lol."
10458h, 4381m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24904w elrxkdb<>-
"I sing for immortality." sings Xiel, playing a black violin laced with tendrils
of silver with haunting harmonies, and he looks directly at you.
10458h, 4359m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24900w elrxkdb<>-

10458h, 4380m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24935w elrxkdb<>-
Xiel plays a black violin laced with tendrils of silver, and you cry out as your
deaf ears open up to the sound of a high-pitched note.
Your ears open up, though you lose your true hearing.
10458h, 4359m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24931w elrxkbp<>-
You are no longer stunned and have a brief stun immunity.
+--+
10458h, 4400m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24945w elrxkb<>-
"I sing for immortality." sings Xiel, playing a black violin laced with tendrils
of silver with haunting harmonies, and he looks directly at you.
One of the pale spirits surrounding Xiel flies towards you and, with a sickening
wrench you can feel through your very being, attaches itself to your aura.
10458h, 4400m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24945w elrxkb<>-
You are no longer immune from stun.
10458h, 4400m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24945w elrxkb<>-
The ache in your ear canals clears up.
10458h, 4379m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24941w elrxkb<>-outr earwort
eat earwort

You remove 1 earwort, bringing the total in the Rift to 634.
10458h, 4379m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24941w elrxkb<>-
You eat a piece of black earwort.
ONDEF true hearing
10458h, 4379m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24941w elrxkdb<>-
"I sing for immortality." sings Xiel, playing a black violin laced with tendrils
of silver with haunting harmonies, and he looks directly at you.
10458h, 4379m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24955w elrxkdb<>-
You may eat or smoke another herb.
10458h, 4379m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24955w elrxkdb<>-

10458h, 4361m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24952w elrxkdb<>-

10458h, 4361m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24952w elrxkdb<>-
Xiel plays a black violin laced with tendrils of silver, and you cry out as your
deaf ears open up to the sound of a high-pitched note.
Your ears open up, though you lose your true hearing.
10458h, 4361m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24952w elrxkbp<>-
You are no longer stunned and have a brief stun immunity.
+--+
10458h, 4400m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24966w elrxkb<>-
"I sing for immortality." sings Xiel, playing a black violin laced with tendrils
of silver with haunting harmonies, and he looks directly at you.
One of the pale spirits surrounding Xiel flies towards you and, with a sickening
wrench you can feel through your very being, attaches itself to your aura.
10458h, 4400m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24966w elrxkb<>-
You are no longer immune from stun.
10458h, 4378m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24962w elrxkb<>-
Ancestral spirits roar towards you from Xiel, keening in rage and fury.
8051h, 4400m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24976w elrxkb<>-sip health
outr sparkleberry
eat sparkleberry
read 65984

"I sing for immortality." sings Xiel, playing a black violin laced with tendrils
of silver with haunting harmonies, and he looks directly at you.
One of the pale spirits surrounding Xiel flies towards you and, with a sickening
wrench you can feel through your very being, attaches itself to your aura.
8573h, 4400m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24976w elrxkb<>-
You take a drink from a garnet vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
10107h, 4400m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24976w elrxkb<>-
You remove 1 sparkleberry, bringing the total in the Rift to 1641.
10107h, 4400m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24976w elrxkb<>-
You eat a sparkleberry.
You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
10458h, 4400m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24976w elrxkb<>-
You read a Scroll of Healing.
You feel an invigorating energy rush through you.
10458h, 4400m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24976w elrxkb<>-
The ache in your ear canals clears up.
10458h, 4380m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24972w elrxkb<>-outr earwort
eat earwort

You remove 1 earwort, bringing the total in the Rift to 633.
10458h, 4380m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24972w elrxkb<>-
You eat a piece of black earwort.
ONDEF true hearing
10458h, 4380m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24972w elrxkdb<>-
You may eat or smoke another herb.
10458h, 4380m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24986w elrxkdb<>-
Xiel plays a black violin laced with tendrils of silver, and you cry out as your
deaf ears open up to the sound of a high-pitched note.
Your ears open up, though you lose your true hearing.
10458h, 4380m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24986w elrxkbp<>-
You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
10458h, 4380m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24986w elrxkbp<>-
You may eat another herb that gives the sparkleberry effect.
10458h, 4362m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24983w elrxkbp<>-
You are no longer stunned and have a brief stun immunity.
+--+
10458h, 4362m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24983w elrxkb<>-
"I sing for immortality." sings Xiel, playing a black violin laced with tendrils
of silver with haunting harmonies, and he looks directly at you.
One of the pale spirits surrounding Xiel flies towards you and, with a sickening
wrench you can feel through your very being, attaches itself to your aura.
10458h, 4400m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24997w elrxkb<>-
You are no longer immune from stun.
10458h, 4400m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24997w elrxkb<>-
You may be healed by a scroll again.
10458h, 4400m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24997w elrxkb<>-
Ancestral spirits roar towards you from Xiel, keening in rage and fury.
8963h, 4378m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24993w elrxkb<>-outr sparkleberry
eat sparkleberry

You remove 1 sparkleberry, bringing the total in the Rift to 1640.
8963h, 4378m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24993w elrxkb<>-
You eat a sparkleberry.
You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
10008h, 4400m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24993w elrxkb<>-
"I sing for immortality." sings Xiel, playing a black violin laced with tendrils
of silver with haunting harmonies, and he looks directly at you.
One of the pale spirits surrounding Xiel flies towards you and, with a sickening
wrench you can feel through your very being, attaches itself to your aura.
10008h, 4400m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 24993w elrxkb<>-
The ache in your ear canals clears up.
10008h, 4379m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 25003w elrxkb<>-outr earwort
eat earwort

You remove 1 earwort, bringing the total in the Rift to 632.
10008h, 4379m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 25003w elrxkb<>-
You eat a piece of black earwort.
ONDEF true hearing
10008h, 4379m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 25003w elrxkdb<>-
You may eat or smoke another herb.
10008h, 4379m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 25017w elrxkdb<>-
Xiel plays a black violin laced with tendrils of silver, and you cry out as your
deaf ears open up to the sound of a high-pitched note.
Your ears open up, though you lose your true hearing.
10008h, 4379m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 25017w elrxkbp<>-
You may eat another herb that gives the sparkleberry effect.
10008h, 4379m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 25017w elrxkbp<>-
You are no longer stunned and have a brief stun immunity.
+--+
10217h, 4378m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 25013w elrxkb<>-
One of the pale spirits swirling around Xiel looms before you, howling guttural
curses that cause your limbs to quiver.
10217h, 4378m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 25013w elrxkb<>-
"I sing for immortality." sings Xiel, playing a black violin laced with tendrils
of silver with haunting harmonies, and he looks directly at you.
You shrug off the effects of stunning.
Five of the pale spirits haunting you loom up in a cloud of chilling mist full
of the weight of aeons.
5077h, 4378m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 25013w elrxkb<>-sip health
outr sparkleberry
eat sparkleberry
read 65984

You take a drink from a garnet vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
6428h, 4378m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 25013w elrxkb<>-
You remove 1 sparkleberry, bringing the total in the Rift to 1639.
6428h, 4378m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 25013w elrxkb<>-
You eat a sparkleberry.
You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
7473h, 4400m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 25013w elrxkb<>-
You read a Scroll of Healing.
You feel an invigorating energy rush through you.
8309h, 4400m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 25013w elrxkb<>-
You are no longer immune from stun.
8309h, 4400m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 25013w elrxkb<>-clt10 rofl

Ancestral spirits roar towards you from Xiel, keening in rage and fury.
The ache in your ear canals clears up.
(Bellator Societas): You say, "Rofl."
6567h, 4381m, 6000e, 10p, 30900en, 25024w elrxkb<>-

---

Not sure how all this scales to other people's health or what affects how much it does, but there it is.

Seems to be roughly 50% of health. Combined with AncientFued's 2k ticks, if he had timed that, he could've killed you (provided he didn't screw up stunning you, heh.)

Hah, yeah that definitely hurts, but I think it'd be best to remember that Xiel's pretty int and cha stacked, and he's got a damage rune.

I still think the spirits last way too long. We'll need to see though whether the stun lasts too long and give SS easy damagekills for the future.

Spirits should be cured on a longer timer if the target is in the same room as the bard, and a shorter timer if the target is in a different room. Requiring people to run = Bad Idea.

Also take into consideration I wasn't attacking him so his offense wasn't slowed any, he was just full on going at it.

Boy, that log makes me think I need to make my stanza #8's lyrics even more amazing. It's bad enough that you only ever heard stanzas #8 and #4 (in that order, usually), but CairnLargo is going to make stanza #8 even more all-pervasive.

Very neat stuff, rather unique too.

4269h, 4337m, 5154e, 7p, 20010en, 18078w exkb /17:04:23.140/-
Ancestral spirits roar towards you from Kuroi, keening in rage and fury.
3461h, 4337m, 5154e, 7p, 20010en, 18078w exkb /17:04:23.187/-

Is this passive? Doesn't matter, needs a nerf. 800 damage passive... I'm going through my log, I didn't have one of those spirit things on me.

3461h, 4087m, 5154e, 7p, 20010en, 18003w exkb /17:04:23.953/-
Ancestral spirits roar towards you from Xiel, keening in rage and fury.
1622h, 4087m, 5154e, 7p, 20010en, 18003w exkb /17:04:24.062/-

Right... Again - no spirit things on me.

Ardmore Mes'ard (Male Irontongue Viscanti)

o Resistance to magic damage, level 2.


Is it all magic damage or is it cold or something? Xiel is an OP Demi so we can ignore, but 800 passive from Kuroi, that's like a moving demesne, especially considering he's human.

At that particular time UNDEAD Irontongue Vicanti

-Resistance to all damage types and an extra resistance to cold damage.
Edit: For the people that don't know, that's one of the lich bonuses.

Edit2: Continuing through the log, and no... Screw the 'Xiel is an OP Demi' that's .

2246h, 4370m, 5154e, 8p, 20100en, 17742w xk /17:04:33.625/-
Keening with rage and fury, pale spirits flow from Xiel and cause Silvanus to
shudder in agony.
Ancestral spirits roar towards you from Xiel, keening in rage and fury.
The sorrowful solace of winter freezes your cold heart, stopping it forever.
You have been slain by Xiel.
0h, 4370m, 5154e, 8p, 20100en, 17742w ex /17:04:33.687/-

I'm not complaining, just want balance!

Edit3: I lied, I'm complaining. Do tests before implementing stuff ya morons!

800 passive damage is hardly that bad. Geo demesne used to do more than that if they timed the rockfall after the lodestone, not sure if it still does. 2k passive damage is a slightly different matter though...

They probably made a + a * by accident in the formula or something. There's no way it's supposed to be that high.

Ardmore's was the passive spirit.

Also, if you look at the difference between Kuroi and Asmo/Xiel's, there's the whole Demigod thing to account for.

Xiel's was insane on me- roughly 4.8k down to 1.7k with the 5-spirit stunner. Usually 1.5k passive. Mind you, I have Staghide (30 cold DMP), cold proofing and fire potion (maybe, unsure when that's calculated, pre or post strip from cold) with a level 1 frost weakness.

I believe the most Asmodea did to me was 1279 with the passive tic (Still a lot) I think it increases with more in the room with you, that aren't attached to others, seems like the damage went down when she attached spirits. 800 is still quite a bit passively, with the damage bards can do actively.

I'd like to point out that Kuroi is a human that's not level 80 (I think, may be just around there). He can't have the type of stats that a High Elfen would have, or even so much as a High Elfen Demigod.

You say 800 passive damage isn't that bad, but that's on a Viscanti with level 2 resistance (and whatever defences Ardmore has up).

I am quite willing to take human non-demigod as an example here, but depending on whether it's magic or cold you may have a point about the L2 resistance.

I've never thought the day would come that the Spiritsingers would be OP