Blame it on the bad coding.

... I think that's what I have been doing and everyone else has been doing...

*PK sys.

There is just no reasonable reason, barring a GH being complete buffoons and losing honour constantly for being buffoons, that a brand new GH should be higher in honour than an established GH who has elected seats, alignment and patron.

Talnara should be ahead of Mes'ard, I will grant them that one as Mes'ard never took a patron citing familial disputes on who to choose as reason to not choose one at all. Though, they should still only be marginally ahead of Mes'ard with the next week giving them a much larger pull ahead.

They should not be ahead of d'Murani though.

The next family to take Great House and align/patron will be ahead of Talnara, as well, and they will take most honourable, unless this gets looked at and fixed.

Yeah. Maybe make offering more viable? Or something.

(Also, make it count the family as a whole, so if Prisch offers 250k and I offer 250k we'll get one point between us instead of zero points.)

pretty sure that's the way offering does work. It is the total offered to the patron by family members/500,000. I could be wrong though.

500k per point of honour isn't really inviable. And there's no real need for the hassle of coding the latter - you can just finish off the 500k gradually.

If anything, I'm worried that once the gain is fixed the decay will be too slow - families are unlikely to ever catch up with a family which started with a significant amount of people in positions (or in fact started significantly earlier at all.) Consider that the next house down has 30 members to adopt...even if it goes flat out and has no selection criteria whatsoever, that's at least like 4-5 RL months of head-start realisticall. Given that it took each of our current greathouses 3 RL years to get here, and that we're gaining like 4-7 monthly from positions passively...and it's not like most people are gonna waste honour on ranked spars.

Hm. Maybe make it reset once in a while, then? Like, once every 5 IG years? Long enough so that it's not a hassle, but short enough so aftercomers can catch up?

To be perfectly honest, why should a family with few-no elected seats be able to catch up to a family with elected seats? Or be able to catch up to a family that had RL months of honour gain. It kind of defeats the purpose of it all if a year from now some brand new family can come in and in a few months have the same honour as the high honour families.

...making it impossible for the families to get positions like the Council seat? Also, why should they lose honour they've worked so hard to get?

I suppose what I ment is that if the system was working, yes, at the time d'Murani would have more. But they would not be earning more in the long run and eventually..well, you get the idea. Agreed, it needs to be fixed, and it sort of sucks for the Houses that lag behind because of it.

Because that essentially limits it to the 4 houses that exist and no other ever. You might as well just declare d'murani the winner and get it over with.

d'Murani won't always be the winner. Other GHs can eventually take over with more elected seats.

Ok, that was something of an exaggeration, but because decay is so slow, they're going to get a margin that it'll take well over 3 years for any house not currently created or dekoven to even approach, and that's without factoring in that if people want to join a large house they'll probably want to join a greathouse rather than a non-great but middle-sized house anyway and related things.

There is more than just decay losing honour though. It doesn't take much to lose 2 or 3 points a day and if you have no elected seats then you are just closing the gap to the newer families who have built up elected seats.

I mean really by the logic of it takes so long to catch up, then every time a new org comes in every other org should have their nexii reset or the new org given additional power so they can catch up easily.

Or any new player joining the game means reset levels so that fair play is established and people can all compete on the same level.

Sure, this is exaggeration, but the game is based on working hard over time gains you better benefits than just showing up late for the party.

Possibly the best example would be how much honour is required for the council seat. It should be something you need to work for, but at the same time has to be possibly attainable

Actually, the new player thing isn't comparable since effectively experience gain is "capped" a little over 100 (any more than that mostly matters for ascendants) and it's a personal thing.
But I wouldn't at all mind raising the power of Acklegaudifax to a little under the lowest of the four Nexi when they come out - maybe even adding a million to accomodate for ascendance - for precisely this reason. When it comes to group efforts with no upper boundary, smoothing things out a bit doesn't seem like that bad of an idea. It's not like the existing houses won't have been reaping the "rewards" (not that those for greathouse are fantastic) in the meantime.

According to Morgfyre a few days ago we were meant to gain 3 honour a day from our seated members, 2 taking away the natural decay every month. We never gained any of that ever, then we lost a load back before the killing thing was fixed. Now we've lost 50 honour due to something out of our control, it's mildly irritating to say the least.

You're logic is strange, great houses should be kept in line because people who've been working at it for months will be better off than someone who came in later?

Why not add the banner houses people were asking for and let them gain some honour until they become a great house in their own right(of course the great house would receive honour for accepting them, but would require x amount to accept a banner house)

My logic isn't strange, you just don't like the conclusion.

Depending on how they're implemented banner houses might help though.