Unknown2008-07-05 20:23:32
Vote: Casilu Weak role claim, looks like scum protecting scum, and I have noticed a bit of a change in play depending on if she is scum or town. This game has had me pointing to scum with her.
Bali, what is Dream Castle? My guess is some sort of protection, maybe. As that is where the ponies lived.
Bali, what is Dream Castle? My guess is some sort of protection, maybe. As that is where the ponies lived.
Amarysse2008-07-05 20:25:33
Bali: Fair enough. Judging by your posts and what I remember of MLP, I'm inclined to believe you. I might even have an idea who you are, if everything said previously is true.
Also, Jigan, there were other baby ponies. I had... several ponies when I was younger.
Also, Jigan, there were other baby ponies. I had... several ponies when I was younger.
Jigan2008-07-05 20:28:00
Ah, but we only know about Casilu might being one. She's the only known little baby pony. The pony leaders will certainly protect their little baby. Just how things roll. Like doughnuts.
Now I'm hungry.
Now I'm hungry.
Amarysse2008-07-05 20:28:46
Oh, I forgot (sorry for the double-post)...
Vote: Casilu.
I can't refute Vis's arguments.
Vote: Casilu.
I can't refute Vis's arguments.
Unknown2008-07-05 20:29:37
Ooh, a bandwagon! It looks like fun. Wait for me, bandwagon!!
VOTE: CASILU
VOTE: CASILU
Unknown2008-07-05 20:30:16
:facepalm:
Sarrasri2008-07-05 20:30:42
While continued suspicion of Casilu is good, I'm still wondering why Shiri felt the need to mention he had Karnagan roleblocked, after the knowledge of his death. That doesn't seem like something you just mention in casual passing for this.
Celina2008-07-05 20:31:37
Balizar and his Dream Castle crack house are bugging me. So..FoS: Balizar
What Vis and the others have said about Casilu make sense, and I'm still trying to make heads or tails of everything so for now...
Vote: Casilu
What Vis and the others have said about Casilu make sense, and I'm still trying to make heads or tails of everything so for now...
Vote: Casilu
Amarysse2008-07-05 20:34:51
The Dream Castle was where all of the ponies lived- pink towers, flags waving in the breeze, the whole nine yards. If it's an actual ability, it pretty much cements Bali as pro-pony.
Xenthos2008-07-05 20:37:26
QUOTE(Myrkr @ Jul 5 2008, 04:29 PM) 529121
Ooh, a bandwagon! It looks like fun. Wait for me, bandwagon!!
VOTE: CASILU
VOTE: CASILU
C'mon now.
And, Sarrasri: Shiri already roleclaimed, so I read it as his trying to "continue assuring" us of his status (and giving out information he has available to him, since it doesn't really serve to hold it back). Not that it really accomplishes anything, but eh.
And can we get a vote count? Especially as bad as Casilu's claim is and the pardon looks... comments like the one above concern me. There's ample reason to vote for Casilu beyond the fact that it's a bloody bandwagon
Rika2008-07-05 20:39:11
Doesn't seem like Casilu is around, so we should at least give her another chance to defend herself. What Sarrasri said about Shiri is very true. Why on earth would you reveal that you are a roleblocker? That seems to be too dumb of a move for someone like Shiri.
Vote: Shiri
Vote: Shiri
Unknown2008-07-05 20:39:17
9 on casilu. 3 to go.
And yes, don't just go "OOH BANDWAGON". That's terrible. At least cite my amazing logic..
And if there's a problem with my logic, someone point it out please. I'd really like to know if I'm wrong, but I don't htink I am.
And yes, don't just go "OOH BANDWAGON". That's terrible. At least cite my amazing logic..
And if there's a problem with my logic, someone point it out please. I'd really like to know if I'm wrong, but I don't htink I am.
Unknown2008-07-05 20:39:51
QUOTE(rika @ Jul 5 2008, 01:39 PM) 529129
Doesn't seem like Casilu is around, so we should at least give her another chance to defend herself. What Sarrasri said about Shiri is very true. Why on earth would you reveal that you are a roleblocker? That seems to be too dumb of a move for someone like Shiri.
Vote: Shiri
Vote: Shiri
Uh, as Xenthos said, he already revealed he was a roleblocker and was just sharing the info he had.
Unknown2008-07-05 20:42:15
QUOTE(Amarysse @ Jul 5 2008, 04:34 PM) 529126
The Dream Castle was where all of the ponies lived- pink towers, flags waving in the breeze, the whole nine yards. If it's an actual ability, it pretty much cements Bali as pro-pony.
Problem with that is the fact that no one outside of Bali seems to know what dream castle is doing. He even said those he uses it on do not know what it does.
Celina2008-07-05 20:44:45
QUOTE(Amarysse @ Jul 5 2008, 03:34 PM) 529126
The Dream Castle was where all of the ponies lived- pink towers, flags waving in the breeze, the whole nine yards. If it's an actual ability, it pretty much cements Bali as pro-pony.
That's big fat "if." So far we don't know if it actually does anything, or if it is even a real ability.
Xenthos2008-07-05 20:45:09
QUOTE(rika @ Jul 5 2008, 04:39 PM) 529129
Doesn't seem like Casilu is around, so we should at least give her another chance to defend herself. What Sarrasri said about Shiri is very true. Why on earth would you reveal that you are a roleblocker? That seems to be too dumb of a move for someone like Shiri.
Vote: Shiri
Vote: Shiri
He claimed day one to avoid a lynch...
I thought you were part of that bandwagon? And then you unvoted him just after his roleclaim...
Unknown2008-07-05 20:45:10
QUOTE(rika @ Jul 5 2008, 01:39 PM) 529129
Doesn't seem like Casilu is around, so we should at least give her another chance to defend herself.
I wanted to go back and address this.
Why?
Why does Casilu get another chance? how many chances are we at now? 6? 7? 8?
How many tries have been made to get a straight answer out of her?
Furthermore, what in my proof are you disputing. I've laid out pretty clearly why she's got to die regardless of the reasoning behind the pardon. Are you disagreeing with that?
Unknown2008-07-05 20:46:09
I think I laid it out before you did.
Anyways, she has to go.
Anyways, she has to go.
Unknown2008-07-05 20:49:06
QUOTE('Othero')
Vote: Casilu Weak role claim, looks like scum protecting scum, and I have noticed a bit of a change in play depending on if she is scum or town. This game has had me pointing to scum with her.
QUOTE('B_a_L_i')
About Casilu's pardon we either have a stupid governor who likes the thought of a no-lynch on the first day (Silvanus comes to mind) or Casilu had the ability but was lying about (that would be stupid) or She being a non townie or someone she is affiliated with (non townie) saved her.
QUOTE('Jigan')
This vote hinges upon the suspiciousness of her, and on the thought that she might be important enough for someone to save again and waste their powers.
QUOTE('B_a_L_i')
Here is for hoping against stupidity, because it would have been *really* stupid to waste a one-shot governor power on the first day.
QUOTE('Visaeris Maeloch')
In any case, I honestly don't know that Casilu being pardoned changed anything. On the one hand, if she did pardon herself, she's a liar. Lynch all liars is the rule.
On the other hand if someone else did it, they did it in full acknowledgement of the fact that she was being horribly evasive and scummy. So either the pardon came from scum or a fool. I've never heard of a governor mason, which is the only circumstance in which the governor could know with complete certainty that she is town. So we know that the governor was either a shot in the dark or scum.
If it's scum, the result is obvious. She has to get lynched again. If it was just a shot in the dark, we still have the same fundamental reasons that led us to lynch her in the first place, because she still hasn't answered our questions, and still was being horribly evasive.
Ergo, in all three out of three possible scenarios for the pardon(self-performed making her a liar, scum making her scum, or random one off pardon that didn't make any sense and doesn't change the reasons we initially lynched her), we are compelled to relynch her.
On the other hand if someone else did it, they did it in full acknowledgement of the fact that she was being horribly evasive and scummy. So either the pardon came from scum or a fool. I've never heard of a governor mason, which is the only circumstance in which the governor could know with complete certainty that she is town. So we know that the governor was either a shot in the dark or scum.
If it's scum, the result is obvious. She has to get lynched again. If it was just a shot in the dark, we still have the same fundamental reasons that led us to lynch her in the first place, because she still hasn't answered our questions, and still was being horribly evasive.
Ergo, in all three out of three possible scenarios for the pardon(self-performed making her a liar, scum making her scum, or random one off pardon that didn't make any sense and doesn't change the reasons we initially lynched her), we are compelled to relynch her.
And finally... her contradictions in the words themselves!
QUOTE('casilu')
Vote: Shiri.
Sorry, but something feels off.
Sorry, but something feels off.
QUOTE('casilu')
I never said it was Shiri.
QUOTE('casilu')
My main reason for voting on Shiri was to apply some first day pressure and get things moving.
Ta-daa. My reasons for voting for Casilu!
I just really like the idea of hopping on a bandwagon. I had reasons, too, but bandwagon-hopping... c'mon, saying it out loud is sooo fun!
But it's okay if you don't believe me. Truly and the babies didn't, either, that one time it was snowing in summer!
Rika2008-07-05 20:52:42
Bleh, Xenthos ninja'd me. I need to read these things more carefully, especially when I just woke up. But still, why would Shiri roleclaim so early on?
Unvote: Shiri
Unvote: Shiri