I hope you're not referring to me.

As far as Bhiele is concerned... It's a little vexing that she posted three times during Night, and then said (I realize this isn't verbatim) "I'm cute and sweet so you can't be angry at me if I've messed anything up." She's even newer than I am, though, so if she start actually participating in the discussions I'll feel a lot better. As it is, apart from Bali's "Dream Castle" (which I'm not convinced is harmful) and quite a few people being rather quiet, I'm not sure where to start.

Not you, when I started typing that I was below the one with five names. I have to go back and forth to look things up before I post.

And I say start with Bhiel and others who are not talking. It is easy for Mafia to fly under the radar if they don't talk and blend in. Also a great tactic if you are new.

Hm. I don't know when Bhiele is active, but Xiel and Celina have both at least responded, which is a start.

I'm not worried about the mafia, I'm worried about the Witch-Cult (if it is indeed a cult and not just another mafia)

The carebears (mafia) should be concerned too.

Uh. Hm.

Don't know really who to vote for, I'll check back in a bit.

I sleep during the day IRL, which is when most of the game seems to be happening.

The Dream Castle thing is really odd. But at the same time, other folks aren't speaking up...

Vote: Lorick for now.

Uhm. I have to point out most of us are ignoring Mr. 'I'm not going to explain what I'm doing to you all' Balizar, who is also telling us to ignore the Mafia and go for a cult which may or may not exist because we can't tell if the Witches are with or against us (As far as I gathered).

Vote: Bali

I believe it's quite possible he's scum, one way or the other. Not to mention he wishes to herd us after a group which is unknown in alliance.

Why should I have to explain?

Seriously why should I? Give me three good, logical reasons.

All my posts besides the obvious dreamcastling have been heavily pro-town and I've been doing what I think is best for the town. I never said ignore the mafia. Did I ever say that? Please quote where I said that.

Unvote
Vote: Furien

For putting words in my mouth, saying I said things I never said. I wouldn't be surprised actually if Lorick, Jigan, and Furien were all mafia/cult in some form or another.

Cults have a way of slipping under the radar. If you do not nip them in the bud early in the game they usually win. They are extremely hard to beat. How is being concerned about this in any way scummy? I think its scummy that you would consider my concern scummy.

Its really not hard to discern what my ability is. It really isnt.

I said didn't talk much, not "didn't talk at all".

Though I understand that you're an experienced player, so, if you've had those experiences before, by all means stay a bit quiet. But as there are less and less players, you might end up needing to talk more!

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I'm going to VOTE: BHIELE in hopes that she'll start talking to us.

Sham said initially that the witches have some sort of grudge against us, and two of the people who have "gone beyond the Dark Rainbow" have made the trip in very witchy ways- one of which was a Care Bear, and one of which was an ally. They may not be pro-Bear, but they're definitely anti-Pony.

Why would you think they might be "with" us?

I have to agree here.

If the witches were pro-pony, they wouldn't win separately. Remember, someone's role was that they won with the witches.

As for B_a_L_i's Dream Castle, I can't think, personally, of the Dream Castle ever being negatively portrayed in the whole story / movie / episodes / toy line.

For those who are wondering!!!


Balizar - 4 (Furien, Lorick, Xiel, Jigan)
Bhiele - 2 (Othero, Myrkr)
Furien - 1 (Bali)
Lorick - 2 (Shiri, Sthai)
Jigan - 1 (Shayle)

10 to lynch.


Arix, Amarysse, Silferras, Bhiele, Silvanus, Diamondais, Sarrasri, and Celina all need to vote still.



Take your time voting and think it over, but please don't take like 10 days or we might all explode in a witchy/beary fury.

Oh, and sorry about the double-post, but Bali said he was more worried about the cult. He didn't say at all that we should ignore the mafia.

I have to admit, you're starting to sound a little suspect, Furien. First you say that you can't tell if the witches are with us are against us, and now you're trying to get a bandwagon going on someone who's behaved pro-town the whole time.

Jigan, you're putting your name on the "shady" list, too.

Furien, a explanation as to why you seem to think the witches could be pro-town would be great.

And everyone who is not voting or is saying "I'll just vote later." Why? I know we don't have a lot to work with right now but not voting and not talking is going to get nothing done.

Diamondais, Sarrasri, and Celina! Hallo!

Care to join the convo?

Throw in some thoughts?

I don't plan on talking about that yet because he either needs to be lynched really fast or specifically set out for rescuing. I'll have a good idea of which it is tomorrow (IG.)

So anyway, despite Balizar being kind of obnoxious about it, I'm going to leave him alone for at least today. Lorick has posted but Bhiele still hasn't. Unvote: Lorick. Vote: Bhiele. Bhiele, if you do see this and post, we want something with content, not just "witholding vote because I don't know what's going on" or similar.
Jigan's point about not knowing Karnagan was witch-side is valid. Celina's about being a "quiet observer" is not, we don't want quiet observers, we want people who discuss their suspicions.

Also, looking at it, the witches probably aren't a cult - they killed Xenthos by the looks of it (I missed the flavour message about being a frog the first time.) So there are just two scum groups, which is less worrying because they're offing each other and don't grow out of control if we don't get enough info. The witches are blatantly not pro-town because look at Karnagan's death-roleclaim, Furien.

All furien pointed at is that we just don't know. We can't say anything with certainty one way or the other. I'm not sure why the witches would be pro-town, but it wouldn't be the first suprise in this game. The point is, just don't act like you know, because you don't.

Myrkr needs to calm down. We know if we haven't voted.

Amarysse is pointing a lot of fingers for no reason.

I still want the dream castle to go away.

Vote: BALI

Sure we know.

"You with the town" is different to "You win with the witches" is different to "You with with the bears." It's about as close to certain as anything is in this game.

I really do not get why people seem to think Dream castle is a negative effect. The flavor does not make it seem negative. We have not seen any sort of negative effect from it.