Mafia: My Little Pony vs. Care Bears

by Shamarah

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Celina2008-07-07 00:46:40
@Shiri: Being a quiet observer is perfectly fine. It's not like I'm lurking and not posting at all, but both games I've played, I've been talkative...and the lynch mob came after me with a vengeance.
Shiri2008-07-07 00:50:27
QUOTE(Othero @ Jul 7 2008, 01:46 AM) 529529
I really do not get why people seem to think Dream castle is a negative effect. The flavor does not make it seem negative. We have not seen any sort of negative effect from it.


@Othero: Well see, it's not like we think there's a negative effect, it's that we think it might be a bull censor.gif bluff move like my "posting in obnoxious colours" in Xavius' game. Since it doesn't seem to be doing anything positive either, and a post restriction that makes him post "dream castle X + Y" is hard to believe. That said, I did think of a couple of town powers it could be, so as mentioned I'm gonna wait until tomorrow to see if it has the effects I predict. If it doesn't I'm gonna be seriously considering it as a bluff again.

@Celina: Well...that's 'cause you were being scummy (and so was I, that first game). I've been active this game, people bandwagoned me at first and then let off. You're right that your posting at all is much better than not posting though, and you even voted (albeit not in a way I think is good) so I'm not gonna pressure you right now. But quiet observing is still worse than active discussion!
Unknown2008-07-07 00:52:36
Might as well do a partial roleclaim to try and convince any townies out there I'm on their side. Probably cant sway the scum. I'm not going into details, yet (and trust me you dont want me to if I'm going to be truthful - but know this: I'm a good guy and enemy to the witches)

Day one: I castle Visaeris and Shiri.

Night one: Visaeris and Shiri are unharmed. Karnagan and Exeryte die. Karnagan was a witch, someone who I thought could be a witch by the speed and and seemingly ungenuine posts about voting for Casilu (note I call him out on this). Its a shame about Exeryte, an active jack-of-trades can be a powerful ally.

Day two: I castle Furien and Sarrasri.

Night two: Furien and Sarrasri are unharmed. Visaersis, Rika, and Xenthos die. We find out that Rika tried to save Casilu, but alas they both died. Visaeris gets offed probably for being a "threat". Doubt a Vig would have killed Xenthos. Sounds like Witchery to me. A vig would have had no good reason to waste a vig power on Xenthos.

Day three: I castle Celina and Xiel.

And now Xiel, Furien, and Celina are voting for me. HRMMMM. Thats not very nice! I think I smell the fear.
Shiri2008-07-07 01:01:13
Bah, I saw Sarrasri posting but she ran away.
Unknown2008-07-07 01:01:53
Mhmm, that would be the effect I was thinking it would be.
Unknown2008-07-07 01:06:45
Based on the kills that happen tonight, I think we'll know if Bali's Dream Castle is good or bad.

That is, if Furien or Sarrasri die tonight, I'm going to be suspicious. More if on Night Four Celina or Xiel day.

Donno if anyone's following.


I, too, saw Sarra posting and then poof. confused.gif
Shiri2008-07-07 01:08:07
Unfortunately by roleclaiming it vastly reduces the effectiveness of it. So when people (i.e at least me) were already saying to hold off and assess it tomorrow, and he only had a few votes on him, roleclaiming seems like a really bad move. Now Balizar doesn't play that badly normally...so there's still a realistic possibility that he is indeed making censor.gif up to hide.

I want to stir the inactive people into action first though.
Unknown2008-07-07 01:08:14
QUOTE(Myrkr @ Jul 6 2008, 09:06 PM) 529536
Based on the kills that happen tonight, I think we'll know if Bali's Dream Castle is good or bad.

That is, if Furien or Sarrasri die tonight, I'm going to be suspicious. More if on Night Four Celina or Xiel day.

Donno if anyone's following.
I, too, saw Sarra posting and then poof. confused.gif


More if on Night Four Celina or Xiel die, is what I meant. >_<
Shiri2008-07-07 01:10:56
Also, that was basically a weakass "partial roleclaim" because it's basically all the relevant information, but without the name and a better description of the character, which would provoke suspicious if he got it wrong.
Unknown2008-07-07 01:12:46
So you have to ask yourself...why would any real townie vote for me?

The answer is they wouldn't. tongue.gif

I would like to hear from Furien, Celina, and Xiel. Why would you vote for who A: has a track record of protecting the people he castles, B: Utilizes a skill with a name that is very pro-town and is very pro pony C: Has a track record of sniffing out the bad guys (example: karnagan)
Shiri2008-07-07 01:17:46
QUOTE(B_a_L_i @ Jul 7 2008, 02:12 AM) 529541
So you have to ask yourself...why would any real townie vote for me?

The answer is they wouldn't. tongue.gif

I would like to hear from Furien, Celina, and Xiel. Why would you vote for who A: has a track record of protecting the people he castles, B: Utilizes a skill with a name that is very pro-town and is very pro pony C: Has a track record of sniffing out the bad guys (example: karnagan)


No. There are good reasons to vote for you now.

You look like you're bluffing because you shouldn't have roleclaimed in that situation. You weren't in real danger and roleclaiming nullifies your role. So it seems more like you wanted to throw it out as cover than that you wanted to use it for the benefit of the town. Also, as mentioned in my last post, you did almost the whole mechanical roleclaim but without the actual role, which is a blatant scum tell.
At the very least you're asking for an investigation. Only reason I'm not voting you myself again just yet is that I want Bhiele and anyone else lurking out there to post. (Someone help me bandwagon these people until they provide content.)
Unknown2008-07-07 01:18:41
Go ahead, investigate me, please! By all means!
Unknown2008-07-07 01:20:32
Anything that will unify the town. I havent been really watching you, Shiri. Missed a few of your earlier posts, should go back and read them I guess. I dont know what to make of you. Didnt you roleclaim blocker or something?

As for all the scum/witches out there: Please do call my bluff. Please do.
Shiri2008-07-07 01:20:48
And post your role (i.e the character/identity.) It can't possibly do any more harm than the mechanical roleclaim you already just gave.
Sarrasri2008-07-07 01:22:49
I'm not voting and probably not talking much still (but still talking) because I'm still getting used to the game. So for now, I go through and read arguments and try to discern scumminess. confused.gif I rather not rush than jump onto the first bandwagon I see.

Now that day has gone on a bit though, there has been people showing up as worthy to watch, most reasons pointed out already by others. Going on what has been said and pointed out by others, I'm finding near everyone who's voting for Bali a bit scummy. Dream castle is the Pony castle, so while we don't know what it does, we can just get the investigator to find out at night rather than lynch. I'm going to Vote: Lorick.



Unknown2008-07-07 01:22:57
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jul 6 2008, 09:17 PM) 529543
No. There are good reasons to vote for you now.

You look like you're bluffing because you shouldn't have roleclaimed in that situation. You weren't in real danger and roleclaiming nullifies your role. So it seems more like you wanted to throw it out as cover than that you wanted to use it for the benefit of the town. Also, as mentioned in my last post, you did almost the whole mechanical roleclaim but without the actual role, which is a blatant scum tell.
At the very least you're asking for an investigation. Only reason I'm not voting you myself again just yet is that I want Bhiele and anyone else lurking out there to post. (Someone help me bandwagon these people until they provide content.)


I'm already on the bandwagon.

While Dream Castle is traditionally good, I can't help but wonder if Bali's skill is this:

Day 1:
DREAMCASTLE (Person A) and (Person cool.gif

Night 1:
(whatever)

Day 2:
DREAMCASTLE (Person C) and (Person D)

Night 2:
One of the two people who were DreamCastle'd from Day 1 is either killed by Bali's choice or by the flip of a coin.

Then, on Night 3, either C or D die.


This would potentially allow Bali to be a pony, mind you, because Visaeris had a Pony-like death.

I don't know. Call it a suspicion.
Shiri2008-07-07 01:23:38
QUOTE(B_a_L_i @ Jul 7 2008, 02:20 AM) 529545
Anything that will unify the town. I havent been really watching you, Shiri. Missed a few of your earlier posts, should go back and read them I guess. I dont know what to make of you. Didnt you roleclaim blocker or something?

As for all the scum/witches out there: Please do call my bluff. Please do.


Yeah, I did roleclaim blocker. I'm Habbitt the rabbit who takes people to paradise estates to stop them getting up to any monkey business. I don't think it rescues the person too even though the flavour indicates it would, but whatever.

As for telling the scum to call your bluff...that would be easy enough, they'd just kill you. They have no reason in particular to hit the people you named (you keep naming random people like Celina and Xiel who don't necessarily deserve it.)
Unknown2008-07-07 01:26:26
QUOTE(Sarrasri @ Jul 6 2008, 09:22 PM) 529548
Dream castle is the Pony castle, so while we don't know what it does, we can just get the investigator to find out at night rather than lynch.


Does everyone think Bali should be investigated?

I'm still bummed that I investigated Visaeris the same effing day that he died.

Also, with the thing I said about the Dream Castle ability, perhaps it'll protect both people for one night, but like I said, on the second night one of them dies.

Seems that way to me.
Unknown2008-07-07 01:26:57
In my eyes, there are a core group of ponies:

Myrkr
Sarrasri
Amarysse
Shiri (I hope)
Othero (I hope)
Myself

Now, as long as we get our stuff together we have a chance at beating the cult. Otherwise we're just plain screwed. Cults are really, really, REALLY hard to beat.

Now right now I'm voting Furien because of her shifty posting style, strange accusations, and in defense of myself. If there is a better target out there, I'm willing to go with it.
Unknown2008-07-07 01:28:28
QUOTE(B_a_L_i @ Jul 6 2008, 09:26 PM) 529554
In my eyes, there are a core group of ponies:

Myrkr
Sarrasri
Amarysse
Shiri (I hope)
Othero (I hope)
Myself

Now, as long as we get our stuff together we have a chance at beating the cult. Otherwise we're just plain screwed. Cults are really, really, REALLY hard to beat.

Now right now I'm voting Furien because of her shifty posting style, strange accusations, and in defense of myself. If there is a better target out there, I'm willing to go with it.


Shayle is also Pro-Pony. You forgot her.