For basing her entire argument on 'Sthai was being scummy with Amarysse against me,' and Amarysse being dead and a pony, I'm really inclined to suspect Celina. Like I pointed out earlier, it's now in the ponies' interest to keep up with the game and make sure we lynch scum every day, and making wild accusations isn't something that's helping. A point that was brought up sometime in one of the many mafia games - scum and those with night powers are usually quieter and don't keep up with day happenings. I think this is a good case of both.

Also, in a way, Sthai not knowing what her targets did and only knowing whether or not they targetted someone sounds like a plausible power. If she knew, she would be a cop, and I don't think there would be two full-fledged cops in the game.

Vote: Celina

Lol. "wild accustation" I posted about Amarysse long before Sthai pointed the finger at me, and I admitted I made a mistake after Arix pointed out she was dead. I suppose drawing attention to myself with that post is all a part of my evil scheme.

You logic isn't making sense. If you take an unbiased look at the situation, it's easy to tell that my suspicion about Amarysse was a sincere accident. I'm already under the Microscope for this stuff Sthai's is saying, and to throw you off...I make up a story about someone who is already dead and proven to be a townie? That doesn't make sense at all. 5 posts a night pop up, I missed her death. Nothing to get in a fuss over.

Nor was that my "entire argument." It was merely a suspicion that I later posted was wrong.

Basing decisions on what roles you think Shamarah handed out and how many of each is horrible logic and will get townie's killed. The fact is you have no idea what's running around.


Anyways, if Sthai is not scum (and if she's not, she's witheld alleged information that could have saved a townie) then she is being manipulated by someone. Or she suspects that I am scum for whatever reason and has made up a power to back her argument. I don't know, something is fishy with Sthai.

I have? As I stated, revealing my role too early could have attracted attention and gotten me killed, as it probably will here. The first investigations revealed nothing. Now? Now I can do something with what I know.

Oh? For one thing, there are definitely two more masons running around, as well as our doctor (or so I hope!). If you think this isn't a good way to make decisions, feel free to suggest something more concrete.

Also, from what I'm seeing, unless Sthai completely made up her role, she didn't hold back information that could endanger a pony.. Unless Karnagan and Rika are going to come back from the other side of the rainbow and go on a vengeful killing spree, of course. But, who knows? We have no idea what's running around.

That being said, it's either strange or conveniently coincidental that both of Sthai's initial targets have no night powers, with the possible exception of the mistaken Visaeris, who could talk at night. I dunno. Honest mistake, or cover-up?

Jigan was a witch... no real surprise, but nice job there, Othero. Looking over Jigan's and Xenthos's roles, we're looking at a minimum of two bears and two witches left. Looking over the picture (and the wiki entry... argh, my mind...) I'm going to guess we have two witches left to hang before they're eliminated. Assuming balance between the mafioso, we have three bears left to hang as well (since witches had the Smooze.) And then there's that nightkiller I'm assuming is SK. So I'm guessing the total number of scum we have left to kill is six.

Othero and Shayle are vouched for.

Arix seems to be standing up for Celina, here, but Sthai claims to have evidence (shaky, but far more reliable than Shiri's roleblock investigation method) against her. If Sthai is telling the truth, Celina has claimed no night ability, and is therefore lying, and likely scum. If Celina is scum, Arix is the next logical target. It doesn't make much sense at this point in the game for Sthai to claim that role, so I'm inclined to trust her at the moment... especially since I can see an Arix/Celina block going, wherein both of them are fairly suspicious.

Celina, I'd like a full roleclaim out of you. Consider my vote hanging over your head.

Silferras, as I understand it, Sthai is claiming a Tracker ability, which only functions on targeted abilities. Nightalking doesn't count as targetting. I'm not even sure that Shamarah has a means of monitoring that at all...

My vote is hanging over Celina's head as well, but I'm not going to cast it just yet because I'm unsure of the vote count up to now.

Vote Count



Celina - 3 (Sthai, Lorick, Silferras)
Sthai - 3 (Sarrasri, Arix, Celina)
Arix - 1 (Othero)
Lorick - 1 (Diamondais)

7 to lynch.

Yeah, I'll drop number four on Celina. Vote: Celina

Better have a decent roleclaim.

I'm still not certain about Sthai, but I'll Unvote for now. Not sure about Celina either. They could just very well be a witch and a carebear and not know each other as scum.

Sarra, try that again in bold. And I don't understand your logic. If you think they're a witch and a carebear, shouldn't you be dropping your vote on one or the other of them?

Bleh. Unvote And I'm not certain on either of them, but all that's being tossed around right now for Celina is accusations, much of the evidence stemming from one I'm not really trusting, and Celina hasn't said much about it, so I'm going to wait for a response first to the accusations.

Bleh, Celina has been responding. Go go tiredness. Still don't really trust either of them but am not sure which to stick a vote on.

I'm not standing up for her per se, I just don't want to automatically assume she's lying, same with Sthai. Some people seem to be voting for her just because she's Celina, but I could be misreading

Unvote:Arix
Vote: Celina.
I don't compleatly trust Sthai but I think the best way to solve this is with a full roleclaim from Celina. Only reason I am even going to trust Sthai is that Celina's actions so far do not make sense to me. If Sthai does have this ability and caught Celina using her ability it would make sense in my mind for a pro-town Celina to say "Yeah. my ability is (Insert awesome ability here.) Why are you trying to attack it?" And then get Sthai lynched as scum. Instead Celina is denying a ability and trying to get attention on others, that seems like scum to me.

I hope to god that all made sense to the rest of you.

I had the option to say I was an ivestigator, but I didn't. Instead I told you my real night power. How is that suspicious? It would have been pretty easy to figure out that I'm not an investigator.

The most pertinent evidence against Celina right now is Sthai's claim, which, true or false, leaves us in the position where it's pretty clear that one or the other is scum. I acknowledge that Celina is perhaps the easiest target in the game, and that Sthai is possibly using this trait to get in an opportunistic lynch.

However, unlike Celina, Sthai has given a relatively full roleclaim of her own volition. I find it unlikely that scum would engage in that sort of tactic at present, because it will be fairly obvious if Sthai is lying, and the groups have limited numbers, as well as each other to worry about. To put it bluntly, if Sthai is scum, she's stupid scum.

Celina, however, has claimed a nightkill-immune only role. It's possible, but suspcious as a duplicate after the revelation of Casilu's role. It is in direct contrast to Sthai's roleclaim, and so we know that one of the two of them is lying. I don't know Celina too well, but the impression that I get is that her primary mode of defense is throwing things back in people's faces, which she does without much forethought. And that's precisely what happened here.

If Sthai is lying, she is either scum, in which case she must be lynched, or pulling a Bali, in which case she must be lynched.

If Sthai is telling the truth, there are two possible explanations for Celina's behavior that I see: the first being, of course, that she is simply scum, in which case she needs to be lynched. Celina seems to be hinting at a second possibility, which is plausible, if unlikely in my mind, and will lead me to request that both she and Sthai be passed over for lynching today.

Of course, the second possibility is dependent on Celina coming forth with as detailed and honest a roleclaim as she can manage in her next post, holding the drama and refraining from any further stall tactics.

Fine. A bit too soon to be demanding roleclaim but whatever.

I am Baby Rainbow, a pony. My special power is BLINK which saves me from being Night killed. The downside, however, is because I am young and inexperienced, it only works 50% of the time.

Ok, I need someone who knows more about My little pony then I do to conferm this but, is there a pony named Baby Rainbow? I couldn't find one on any of the things Sham said the information is from. I did however find that there was a set of the toys called baby rainbow. So my guess is that this is a lie and Celina screwed it up but I could easily be wrong. My knowledge of My Little Pony is limited.

A brief scan of the provided articles, and a quick Google search (come ON, people, you can at least do that,) failed to turn up any individual Baby Rainbow. There is a group of Baby Rainbow ponies, but that's not what Celina is claiming, and as such, I call horse on her claim.

Lynch her.

Yeah. There seems to not be a single Baby Rainbow pony, so I'll have to Vote: Celina. Google is a wonderful tool when you're not certain about something.