Unknown2008-07-09 05:59:05
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An armoured badger runs in and drops a smoldering smudge stick, then runs quickly back out.
6652h, 3653m, 5557e, 10p, 23152en, 23101w elrxk <22:39:04.453><>-
Fragrant smoke continues to billow up from a smoldering smudge stick.
6652h, 3653m, 5557e, 10p, 23152en, 23101w elrxk <22:39:04.546><>-
The cloud of fragrant smoke coalesces into the scene of a roaring forest fire. Flaming branches rain down all around you.
A burl cracks open next to Thoros, covering him in burning sap.
A burl cracks open next to Shikha, covering her in burning sap.
A burl cracks open next to Malarious, covering him in burning sap.
6595h, 3653m, 5557e, 10p, 23170en, 23115w elrxk <22:39:05.796><>-
The embers on a smoldering smudge stick suddenly flare and crackle, releasing a cloud of fragrant smoke.
7659h, 3638m, 5557e, 10p, 23152en, 23111w elrk <22:39:06.406><>-
Fragrant smoke continues to billow up from a smoldering smudge stick.
Shikha takes a drink from a diamond vial.
7659h, 3823m, 5557e, 10p, 23170en, 23161w elrk <22:39:08.500><>-
Fragrant smoke continues to billow up from a smoldering smudge stick.
7659h, 3823m, 5557e, 10p, 23170en, 23170w elrxk <22:39:09.515><>-
The cloud of fragrant smoke coalesces into the scene of a roaring forest fire. Flaming branches rain down all around you.
A burl cracks open next to Bashara, covering him in burning sap.
A burl cracks open next to Yukio, covering him in burning sap.
A burl cracks open next to Revan, covering him in burning sap.
A burl cracks open next to Exeryte, covering him in burning sap.
A burl cracks open next to Malarious, covering him in burning sap.
7659h, 3808m, 5557e, 10p, 23152en, 23166w elrk <22:39:10.437><>-
The embers on a smoldering smudge stick suddenly flare and crackle, releasing a cloud of fragrant smoke.
7292h, 3808m, 5557e, 10p, 23154en, 23170w elrk <22:39:14.015><>-
An armoured badger runs in and drops a smoldering smudge stick, then runs quickly back out.
7659h, 3605m, 5557e, 10p, 23136en, 23091w elrk <22:39:16.750><>-
Fragrant smoke continues to billow up from a smoldering smudge stick.
7659h, 3605m, 5557e, 10p, 23136en, 23105w elrk <22:39:16.906><>-
The embers on a smoldering smudge stick suddenly flare and crackle, releasing a cloud of fragrant smoke.
7659h, 3605m, 5557e, 10p, 23156en, 23105w elrk <22:39:17.812><>-
You have recovered balance on all limbs.
7659h, 3605m, 5557e, 10p, 23156en, 23105w elrxk <22:39:17.875><>-
The cloud of fragrant smoke coalesces into the scene of a roaring forest fire. Flaming branches rain down all around you.
A burl cracks open next to you, covering you in burning sap.
A burl cracks open next to Shikha, covering her in burning sap.
A burl cracks open next to Bashara, covering him in burning sap.
A burl cracks open next to Revan, covering him in burning sap.
6331h, 3605m, 5557e, 10p, 23156en, 23105w elrxkp <22:39:18.078><>-
Fragrant smoke continues to billow up from a smoldering smudge stick.
6713h, 3774m, 5557e, 10p, 23170en, 23151w elrxkp <22:39:18.703><>-
You are no longer stunned and have a brief stun immunity.
6866h, 3774m, 5557e, 10p, 23170en, 23151w elrxk <22:39:19.921><>-
The cloud of fragrant smoke coalesces into the scene of a roaring forest fire. Flaming branches rain down all around you.
A burl cracks open next to Yukio, covering him in burning sap.
A burl cracks open next to Exeryte, covering him in burning sap.
A burl cracks open next to you, covering you in burning sap.
5518h, 3774m, 5557e, 10p, 23170en, 23165w elrkp <22:39:21.890><>-
QUOTE
An armoured badger runs in and drops a smoldering smudge stick, then runs quickly back out.
7659h, 3859m, 5557e, 10p, 23119en, 23156w elrk <22:37:25.531><>-
Fragrant smoke continues to billow up from a smoldering smudge stick.
7659h, 3859m, 5557e, 10p, 23119en, 23170w elrk <22:37:26.281><>-
The cloud of fragrant smoke coalesces into the scene of a wide open valley. A tornado twists across the valley's expanse.
You are picked up by the twister and thrown up into the sky.
Spirit Warden Exeryte, Keeper of the Bones is thrust up into the sky by a whirling tornado.
Sohei Yukio Auralius, of the Quietus Innocence is thrust up into the sky by a whirling tornado.
Armiger Bashara is thrust up into the sky by a whirling tornado.
Ur'Myrmidon Thoros d'Murani, Avatar of the Crimson Wrath is thrust up into the sky by a whirling tornado.
7659h, 3843m, 5557e, 10p, 23119en, 23166w elrk <22:37:27.312><>-
Yukio plummets to the earth below!
Bashara plummets to the earth below!
Exeryte plummets to the earth below!
Thoros plummets to the earth below!
7659h, 3843m, 5557e, 10p, 23119en, 23166w elrk <22:37:28.312><>-
Sohei Yukio Auralius, of the Quietus Innocence is thrust up into the sky by a whirling tornado.
Spirit Warden Exeryte, Keeper of the Bones is thrust up into the sky by a whirling tornado.
The Queen's Own Torturer, Shikha d'Murani, Blade of the Ouroboros is thrust up into the sky by a whirling tornado.
Kalas Malarious De'Unnero is thrust up into the sky by a whirling tornado.
Sohei Revan n'Kylbar, the Legion's Blade is thrust up into the sky by a whirling tornado.
7659h, 3805m, 5557e, 10p, 23139en, 23136w lrxk <22:37:32.656><>-
Exeryte plummets to the earth below!
Yukio plummets to the earth below!
Shikha plummets to the earth below!
Malarious plummets to the earth below!
Revan plummets to the earth below!
7659h, 3805m, 5557e, 10p, 23159en, 23150w lrxk <22:37:34.187><>-
Kalas Malarious De'Unnero is thrust up into the sky by a whirling tornado.
Ur'Myrmidon Thoros d'Murani, Avatar of the Crimson Wrath is thrust up into the sky by a whirling tornado.
Sohei Yukio Auralius, of the Quietus Innocence is thrust up into the sky by a whirling tornado.
Spirit Warden Exeryte, Keeper of the Bones is thrust up into the sky by a whirling tornado.
The Queen's Own Torturer, Shikha d'Murani, Blade of the Ouroboros is thrust up into the sky by a whirling tornado.
7659h, 3791m, 5557e, 10p, 23159en, 23147w elrxk <22:37:36.609><>-
tl;dr since admins hate logs: Being able to drop smudges remotely and lots of them on a very quick balance and then they stack is stupid and wrong and horribly broken. It shold be preventable, maybe with skunk spray or monolith or something.
Shiri2008-07-09 06:01:49
I haven't decided how balanced it is yet, but do remember that shield stops it entirely, and it's not really an instakill if you get hit by it, just a bunch of damage and harrassment.
Unknown2008-07-09 06:03:00
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jul 8 2008, 11:01 PM) 530418
I haven't decided how balanced it is yet, but do remember that shield stops it entirely, and it's not really an instakill if you get hit by it, just a bunch of damage and harrassment.
Except the balance on the badger is so fast you can use it right before you engage a team, or you can have an ecologist sit in the back spamming smudges while the rest of the group engages.
Promise, on the receiving end it's not balanced.
Edit: Badger is on a 4 second balance assuming whoever was shooting them at us as fast as possible.
Celina2008-07-09 06:05:04
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jul 9 2008, 01:01 AM) 530418
I haven't decided how balanced it is yet, but do remember that shield stops it entirely, and it's not really an instakill if you get hit by it, just a bunch of damage and harrassment.
Really? Large damage+stun to personal enemies with absolutely no risk to yourself? I seem to remember you saying dreamweavers should be neutered because are fighting without any risk, how is this different? (other than the fact that you can actually hit the dreamweaver, but you can't touch the ecologist or the badger)
Unknown2008-07-09 06:05:20
I am not surprised really heh, the admin apparently don't test the skills they create before they release them into the game. It has been this way since as long as I can remember and will continue to be like this, unbalanced, overpowered changes until the playerbase complains loud enough. (Yet even when we do complain loud enough our cries tend to be ignored for months.)
Rika2008-07-09 06:06:20
Badger is about 4s normally and 2s if he uses that power feat, I think.
Jack2008-07-09 06:06:27
Haha, I read that as "my bladder is broken" and I got this great image of Visaeris weeping helplessly as he pissed himself.
Carry on.
Carry on.
Unknown2008-07-09 06:07:41
QUOTE(Jack @ Jul 8 2008, 11:06 PM) 530425
Haha, I read that as "my bladder is broken" and I got this great image of Visaeris weeping helplessly as he pissed himself.
Carry on.
Carry on.
I'll be honest this isn't the jack quote I was anticipating. I feel let down.
Xiel2008-07-09 06:08:18
FamiliarSmudge can't be sped up by FamiliarBerserk, btw.
Jack2008-07-09 06:08:46
QUOTE(Visaeris Maeloch @ Jul 9 2008, 07:07 AM) 530427
I'll be honest this isn't the jack quote I was anticipating. I feel let down.
Shut up, Incontinentia.
Shiri2008-07-09 06:09:07
QUOTE(Celina @ Jul 9 2008, 07:05 AM) 530421
Really? Large damage+stun to personal enemies with absolutely no risk to yourself? I seem to remember you saying dreamweavers should be neutered because are fighting without any risk, how is this different? (other than the fact that you can actually hit the dreamweaver, but you can't touch the ecologist or the badger)
Good point. As I say, I haven't decided if it's balanced yet, I'm only pointing out that in a normal situation you could have avoided it completely and it'd've been a lot less bad than, say, chaindrag/beckon.
EDIT: Btw, it's not personal enemies, it's only a small portion of them. It's like contagion, diminishing returns on higher groups. Just to clear that up.
Unknown2008-07-09 06:09:34
QUOTE(Xiel @ Jul 8 2008, 11:08 PM) 530429
FamiliarSmudge can't be sped up by FamiliarBerserk, btw.
That's reassuring. At 4 seconds it's pretty
up, at 2 it'd be insanity^2Rika2008-07-09 06:11:22
See, when I was testing with Xiel (the other way around really), I kept telling him that people are going to complain. He dismissed pretty much everything I said. Glad others agree with me. 
Silvanus2008-07-09 06:12:53
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jul 9 2008, 01:01 AM) 530418
I haven't decided how balanced it is yet, but do remember that shield stops it entirely, and it's not really an instakill if you get hit by it, just a bunch of damage and harrassment.
Do I need to dig up the posts about Chaindrag where Magnagora says "Shield stops it" but most people go haha!
I wasn't even here to see what happened, but just going from this one post and about "Shield stops it," well we've been over this before, probably plenty of times. This is not a valid defense of the skill.
And later on this thread you even bring up Chaindrag, well...
Shield stops it.
LolIWin.
Unknown2008-07-09 06:15:02
Heh and I haven't even seen the new spiritsinger skills that they've gained. I bet they are just as stupid as the ecology changes but I won't assume anything until I see for myself.
Unknown2008-07-09 06:15:30
I used that joke first, psh.
As far as bond deliver goes, I think it shouldn't stack, i.e. you can't deliver another smudge until the previous one 'finishes'. Normal, ecologist smudges should still be stackable. This should be more fair, maybe.
As far as bond deliver goes, I think it shouldn't stack, i.e. you can't deliver another smudge until the previous one 'finishes'. Normal, ecologist smudges should still be stackable. This should be more fair, maybe.
Shiri2008-07-09 06:16:09
QUOTE(Silvanus @ Jul 9 2008, 07:12 AM) 530436
Do I need to dig up the posts about Chaindrag where Magnagora says "Shield stops it" but most people go haha!
I wasn't even here to see what happened, but just going from this one post and about "Shield stops it," well we've been over this before, probably plenty of times. This is not a valid defense of the skill.
And later on this thread you even bring up Chaindrag, well...
Shield stops it.
LolIWin.
I wasn't even here to see what happened, but just going from this one post and about "Shield stops it," well we've been over this before, probably plenty of times. This is not a valid defense of the skill.
And later on this thread you even bring up Chaindrag, well...
Shield stops it.
LolIWin.
Huh? So are you conceding that chaindrag is overpowered? If so, that's fine. But this is actually worse than chaindrag in a normal scenario. It might still be too good (as I have pointed out that chaindrag is) but it's still worse in most scenarios. The reason they got hit by it a tonne as a ranged skill here is that they were sitting in aggro shieldbreaker mobs.
Exeryte2008-07-09 06:18:40
Chaindrag isn't the same, because it doesn't pull out everyone in the room who isn't shielded.
Though that could be changed.
Though that could be changed.
Shiri2008-07-09 06:19:29
QUOTE(Exeryte @ Jul 9 2008, 07:18 AM) 530441
Chaindrag isn't the same, because it doesn't pull out everyone in the room who isn't shielded.
Though that could be changed.
Though that could be changed.
It pulls one. This doesn't pull any. Np?
Silvanus2008-07-09 06:20:00
That'd be the overpowered suggestion and monks are being redone. And judging by the latest batches of Skill reviews...
*Envoy Ideas it*
*Envoy Ideas it*
