Mafia: The Quest

by Unknown

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Arix2008-07-16 07:16:36
I'm gonna keep my vote, I really would rather not keep switching
Unknown2008-07-16 07:18:37
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jul 16 2008, 12:08 AM) 533551
Like I mentioned, we need to be more careful with roleclaims this game. Any of those could be a bog-standard "madman" or even a warlock despite how convincing they are. A motivation is easy to fabricate as both of us already noted.


By that token no roleclaim can ever be accepted. I suppose that's one position to take for this game, but I think it leaves lynchees in a shitty position because as soon as the bandwagon roles there's no way to stop it. I don't know that I agree with this particular

QUOTE(Shiri @ Jul 16 2008, 12:08 AM) 533551
there's a similar likelihood of a given one of them being safe as with any random clown we bandwagon.


I disagree. A convincing roleclaim is more likely to be true. It's not necessarily true, but if it's convincing it's more likely to be true. In stark contrast, a random bandwagon selected leader is under no such improved odds. You're still dealing with the base 4-5/16 chance that they're scum, whereas the possibility that any given claimee is scum is a bit lower, on that inherent advantage to having a convincing roleclaim.

QUOTE(Lorick @ Jul 16 2008, 12:14 AM) 533553
Although, to be honest, that still leaves us in the situation of who are we suppose to lynch?


Indeed. Any suggestions?
Unknown2008-07-16 07:21:22
Wow, I go to sleep and come back to thirteen pages.

Anyway, from what it seems, unless Dagenev has that as a mafia power, he pretty much validated himself by opening his bag of tricks.

I'm not too inclined to believe Silvanus on his roleclaim entirely, but that's mostly because of the slip-ups - which he admittedly did try to explain, but misreading can too easily be an excuse used to shore up a shady roleclaim. If you're going for leader, what you probably shouldn't do is skim your role and build your case on something you're not sure about. And I notice that in the final roleclaim, Silvanus didn't mention anything at all about his hooker attire. Didn't he claim that it enhanced his power? I don't know. Smells fishy to me.

Vote: Silvanus for the time being, unless I missed out something while combing through all those posts.
Lorick2008-07-16 07:21:24
At the moment, no. Although, I will be honest and say throwing out random spheres at people does make me a tad nervous of Dag.
Silvanus2008-07-16 07:24:45
QUOTE(Silferras @ Jul 16 2008, 02:21 AM) 533556
Wow, I go to sleep and come back to thirteen pages.

Anyway, from what it seems, unless Dagenev has that as a mafia power, he pretty much validated himself by opening his bag of tricks.

I'm not too inclined to believe Silvanus on his roleclaim entirely, but that's mostly because of the slip-ups - which he admittedly did try to explain, but misreading can too easily be an excuse used to shore up a shady roleclaim. If you're going for leader, what you probably shouldn't do is skim your role and build your case on something you're not sure about. And I notice that in the final roleclaim, Silvanus didn't mention anything at all about his hooker attire. Didn't he claim that it enhanced his power? I don't know. Smells fishy to me.

Vote: Silvanus for the time being, unless I missed out something while combing through all those posts.

You have to reread those pages again. And, I do not know the vote count (I think I'm at 7) but I'd not like to get lynched especially when you need to reread those pages again.
Unknown2008-07-16 07:25:03
Silvanus: 6 (daganev, xenthos, thul, shiri, arix, silferras)
Shiri2008-07-16 07:27:35
QUOTE(Visaeris Maeloch @ Jul 16 2008, 08:18 AM) 533555
By that token no roleclaim can ever be accepted. I suppose that's one position to take for this game, but I think it leaves lynchees in a shitty position because as soon as the bandwagon roles there's no way to stop it. I don't know that I agree with this particular
I disagree. A convincing roleclaim is more likely to be true. It's not necessarily true, but if it's convincing it's more likely to be true. In stark contrast, a random bandwagon selected leader is under no such improved odds. You're still dealing with the base 4-5/16 chance that they're scum, whereas the possibility that any given claimee is scum is a bit lower, on that inherent advantage to having a convincing roleclaim.


It's not that we can't believe them at all, we just have to be more careful than it seems to me like you are being.
Anyone know where Thul's roleclaim is? I'm not seeing it, only Dag/Silvanus/Visaeris.

Anyway, even if we concede that it's going to be 1 of those 4, and they're all innocent probably, there's still the strategy question of whether we want you (not going to die to day/night kills anyway MAYBE, you say probably not lynch but aren't sure), Daganev (potentially useful items, would need protecting as confirmed useful townie anyway so it doubles up), Silvanus (useless so we don't care if he dies) or Thul (no idea since I don't know where his claim is.)
Lorick2008-07-16 07:29:28
I believe he claimed the mage/priest of water.
Silvanus2008-07-16 07:30:31
QUOTE(Thul @ Jul 15 2008, 06:45 PM) 533244
Daganev has revealed that he is after airship plans. This is a key piece of information in his claim. My own goal is to acquire the Chalice of the Goddess, which is apparently sacred. You gave a vague answer of riches, which doesn't mesh up with my information as well as Daganev's does.
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For reference, I'm Glindor the Water Mage, from the Highlands of Heruedur. And despite being a mage, I seem to have devoted myself to the Goddess of Water. confused.gif I've got blue robes, and a pouch containing several herbs. I've got Water Magic as an adventure power.

I'm assuming that it's "mage" that's specified and not "priest," because I don't have any healing abilities. If you're a priest, don't frigging tell people, please.

He said not Priest.

Ok, honestly.

Between a hooker and a Mage, who's more likely to be a Warlock psycopath?
Shiri2008-07-16 07:30:35
Whereabouts?
Lorick2008-07-16 07:30:52
That said.. Ugh, I really don't care for these options, but you can't really do anything alone at this point unless you have pockets full of grenades.

Vote: Silvanus
Unknown2008-07-16 07:31:05
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jul 16 2008, 12:27 AM) 533561
It's not that we can't believe them at all, we just have to be more careful than it seems to me like you are being.
Anyone know where Thul's roleclaim is? I'm not seeing it, only Dag/Silvanus/Visaeris.

Anyway, even if we concede that it's going to be 1 of those 4, and they're all innocent probably, there's still the strategy question of whether we want you (not going to die to day/night kills anyway MAYBE, you say probably not lynch but aren't sure), Daganev (potentially useful items, would need protecting as confirmed useful townie anyway so it doubles up), Silvanus (useless so we don't care if he dies) or Thul (no idea since I don't know where his claim is.)


QUOTE
For reference, I'm Glindor the Water Mage, from the Highlands of Heruedur. And despite being a mage, I seem to have devoted myself to the Goddess of Water. confused.gif I've got blue robes, and a pouch containing several herbs. I've got Water Magic as an adventure power.

I'm assuming that it's "mage" that's specified and not "priest," because I don't have any healing abilities. If you're a priest, don't frigging tell people, please.


Anyways, there's no way my daykill immunity is a chance to survive a lynch but I'll ask Balizar to confirm. I am not so sure on Daganev since he just dropped what seems to be a grenade...
Amarysse2008-07-16 07:31:21
Apologies for the lack of clarity. I hadn't voted for a leader as of yet, but for the sake of recordkeeping:

Unvote: Silvanus

I am still considering who should be the first to part from us.

Given what was said initially about the general theme of this adventure (D&D) I'm more inclined to lean toward someone who has a good chance of surviving, rather than someone who's less capable of defending us, or themselves. The fact that we likely won't get a second chance if our glorious leader should fall is certainly a motivator. I'm leaning toward the dragonslayer (Visaeris) at the moment, because we are specifically told that the leader ought to be someone tough, and with a good understanding of the land. If there's someone who meets both criteria, they would obviously be the optimal choice, but lacking any sense of what the latter might mean, I'm comfortable following someone who exemplifies the former.
Lorick2008-07-16 07:31:45
A mage looking for a holy object and worships some sort of water god. He thought Bali was been odd with his claim as well.
Unknown2008-07-16 07:32:02
QUOTE(Thul @ Jul 15 2008, 04:45 PM) 533244
Daganev has revealed that he is after airship plans. This is a key piece of information in his claim. My own goal is to acquire the Chalice of the Goddess, which is apparently sacred. You gave a vague answer of riches, which doesn't mesh up with my information as well as Daganev's does.

Silvanus's claim is worse to me in this regard, it should be noted.

Now, I could just be mistaken in thinking that everyone has a specific purpose in taking this trip, but at this point I suspect that you had to come up with that motive on the fly. If everyone else has similarly vague goals, and it turns out that only a few of us have specific ones, I'll lay off that line of thought, and probably recast my nomination. But that'll require confirmation from a few other people.

For reference, I'm Glindor the Water Mage, from the Highlands of Heruedur. And despite being a mage, I seem to have devoted myself to the Goddess of Water. confused.gif I've got blue robes, and a pouch containing several herbs. I've got Water Magic as an adventure power.

I'm assuming that it's "mage" that's specified and not "priest," because I don't have any healing abilities. If you're a priest, don't frigging tell people, please.


Here
Silvanus2008-07-16 07:32:19
I'd like to point out that I've given absolutely everything listed in my PM before some people in this game have even had a chance to post (archer2) and one person who had one post (requiem dot exe) and somebody who has two posts (Silferras who just woke up).
Shiri2008-07-16 07:33:57
Thanks.

That's not a full roleclaim per se (doesn't explain his powers and I'm sure a mage would have one, eh) so let's say we're choosing between Dag/Silvanus/Visaeris. Strategy call? We need to nto actually vote them in until we get a lynch in case something comes up that incriminates them though.
Unknown2008-07-16 07:35:00


Fourth Official Vote Count!

Lynch Votes:
(9 For Lynch)

Silvanus: 7 Votes (daganev, xenthos, thul, shiri, arix, silferras, lorick)
Shiri: 2 Votes (silvanus, visaeris)
Daganev: 1 Vote (othero)

Leader Nomination:
(9 For Election)

Visaeris: 5 Votes (visaeris, zetsu, shamarah, arix, othero)
Daganev: 1 Vote (daganev)
Silvanus: 1 Vote (silvanus)
Amarysse: 1 Vote (rika)

(Please tell me if any of this is incorrect.)
Unknown2008-07-16 07:35:18
Silvanus is at 7 again, since Amarysse was not on the list her unvote doesn't count.

Silvanus: 7 (daganev, xenthos, thul, shiri, arix, silferras, lorick)
Unknown2008-07-16 07:35:46
I hate you Balizar.