Mafia: The Quest

by Unknown

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Silvanus2008-07-16 07:36:08
Ok, honestly, why between those three?

Two of us are voting for Shiri, why not add them on the list? Why only limit it down to those three before archer2 has posted and requiem dot exe has posted once.

Why are you so rushing to get this lynch going Shiri? Once again I have to reiterate my vote on you and reiterate this point again.

When presented with the claims of a Dwarf with a bag of magic tricks, a Dragonslayer, a Water Mage (not Priest) and a hooker, which one is most likely a psyopath/warlock. And that's only four of the sixteen, one fourth of the players here. Once again, why are you limiting it down to these four people? (Three actually).
Amarysse2008-07-16 07:37:26
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jul 16 2008, 02:33 AM) 533573
Thanks.

That's not a full roleclaim per se (doesn't explain his powers and I'm sure a mage would have one, eh) so let's say we're choosing between Dag/Silvanus/Visaeris. Strategy call? We need to nto actually vote them in until we get a lynch in case something comes up that incriminates them though.


The challenge clearly states that we need someone tough and who has a good lay of the land. As far as I'm concerned, selecting someone who isn't hardy enough to lead is not an option. Whether she is truly a part of the fellowship or not, Bianca (Silvanus) should not, in my opinion, be considered.
Unknown2008-07-16 07:38:39
QUOTE(Silvanus @ Jul 16 2008, 12:36 AM) 533577
Ok, honestly, why between those three?

Two of us are voting for Shiri, why not add them on the list? Why only limit it down to those three before archer2 has posted and requiem dot exe has posted once.

Why are you so rushing to get this lynch going Shiri? Once again I have to reiterate my vote on you and reiterate this point again.

When presented with the claims of a Dwarf with a bag of magic tricks, a Dragonslayer, a Water Mage (not Priest) and a hooker, which one is most likely a psyopath/warlock. And that's only four of the sixteen, one fourth of the players here. Once again, why are you limiting it down to these four people? (Three actually).


He's talking about for Leader, operating on my claim that we need to pick someone who's roleclaimed to Lead. Since Thul didn't really fully roleclaim he doesn't quite count, so it breaks down to Daganev/You/Me if you don't get lynch'd.

I do think the lynch pressuring is a bit weird, but I don't think the post you're referring to is any pressuring.
Silvanus2008-07-16 07:39:33
For reference Amarysse, I'm male just Bianca is female just so we are clear.

And, I misread Shiri's post and thought he was choosing between those targets as lynches and not leadership roles (didn't really think about it).
Arix2008-07-16 07:39:35
Should I make the obvious joke about Silvanus' character having a good lay of the land?
Silvanus2008-07-16 07:41:02
QUOTE(Arix @ Jul 16 2008, 02:39 AM) 533583
Should I make the obvious joke about Silvanus' character having a good lay of the land?

Everybody brings up these good points of why I should be leader (useless, has a good lay of the land, sleeps my way to the top).

My challenge is I use my esxual prowess to get what I want - why can't I use my challenge ability here? (I'm still confused on this subject though to understand how challenges work).
Lorick2008-07-16 07:41:08
...Sure, why not.
Lorick2008-07-16 07:41:54
I personally would like to hear more on challenges myself. It seems fairly confusing and vague.
Unknown2008-07-16 07:42:54
QUOTE(Silvanus @ Jul 16 2008, 12:41 AM) 533584
Everybody brings up these good points of why I should be leader (useless, has a good lay of the land, sleeps my way to the top).

My challenge is I use my esxual prowess to get what I want - why can't I use my challenge ability here? (I'm still confused on this subject though to understand how challenges work).


Because it's not a challenge precisely. Regular challenges will probably be bandits or dragons or something.. Which is where you may be able to use your challenge skill.

The leader thing is a special circumstance.

I don't understand why the concept is really hard
Unknown2008-07-16 07:44:19
It's amazingly counterproductive, yet interesting, that we need to decide a leader on Day 1, where there's absolutely no solid evidence who is fellowship and who is not, and the only thing we can rely on are roleclaims. I think it's unlikely that any of the fellowship would want to put themselves in that position, since it only confers lynch-immunity (and well, gold) - plus, why would the fellowship lynch someone they elected, anyway? The way I see it, the warlocks and psychopaths benefit both ways; if we pick a townie to lead, they're going to be the first target, and if we pick mafia to lead, they'll be immune to lynches and we'll have to depend on vigs or lucky SK kills.

That being said, a lynch will go a long way in helping decide a leader. I'll be holding off on nominating a leader till we get more solid evidence.
Amarysse2008-07-16 07:50:06
QUOTE(Silvanus @ Jul 16 2008, 02:39 AM) 533582
For reference Amarysse, I'm male just Bianca is female just so we are clear.


I know. I'm trying to refer to people primarily by their role name/gender, though if you prefer, I can just refer to you as male all around.
Shiri2008-07-16 07:51:03
QUOTE(Silvanus @ Jul 16 2008, 08:39 AM) 533582
For reference Amarysse, I'm male just Bianca is female just so we are clear.

And, I misread Shiri's post and thought he was choosing between those targets as lynches and not leadership roles (didn't really think about it).

Yeah I was talking about leaders so I'm ignoring that post.

We gain nothing by electing a leader before we lynch someone. We DO, however, have a small but existing chance of gaining something by lynching before we elect a leader.
Arix2008-07-16 07:51:52
so it's eight votes on Silvanus now?
Shiri2008-07-16 07:52:21
Seems like it should still be 7 to me.
Amarysse2008-07-16 07:52:55
QUOTE(Silvanus @ Jul 16 2008, 02:41 AM) 533584
Everybody brings up these good points of why I should be leader (useless, has a good lay of the land, sleeps my way to the top).

My challenge is I use my esxual prowess to get what I want - why can't I use my challenge ability here? (I'm still confused on this subject though to understand how challenges work).


Those are not good qualities to look for in a leader, in this case, particularly when the word "lay" was the key word in Arix's jest. Being "useless" is not something that I think would be beneficial, either, nor would sleeping one's way to the top.
Silvanus2008-07-16 07:54:48
QUOTE(Amarysse @ Jul 16 2008, 02:52 AM) 533595
Those are not good qualities to look for in a leader, in this case, particularly when the word "lay" was the key word in Arix's jest. Being "useless" is not something that I think would be beneficial, either, nor would sleeping one's way to the top.

I tend to disagree, but then again I'm a hooker (and who actually listens to hookers?).
Unknown2008-07-16 07:54:52
QUOTE
This game is different from conventional mafia games in the respect that each day, a "challenge" will appear before the group of travelers. How you overcome the obstacle is up to you. The challenge can be either a threat, a chance to buy upgrades or weapons, etc etc. I must admit this is basically a modified
version of Shamarah's envoy device. Thanks Sham ^^'. Regular lynchings will still happen.

A little more on challenges. The day cannot be resolved until the challenge is finished. Challenges can give you gold, provide clues about roles, or maybe
give you items. -Every- player has a role flavor ability that has something to do with challenges. It is the first line of your powers list. For instance:

Disco Dancing Skills - Dance the night away. <------ This is your challenge ability.
Punch - Punch someone
Kick - Kick someone

So, I hope that clears it up. Challenges are a very important part of this game! Dont be afraid to argh-pee a little. It'll be fun. Also, after the day 1
challenge, all of them will be randomized. (I've already wrote them out)


All challenges will be structured into some kind of vote form. The challenge abilities are intentionally vague. Depending on the challenge ability, the outcome of the vote might be different depending on who or what the result is. You do not proactively use the power. They are meant to be a tool to add depth and variety to an otherwise regular mafia game.
Amarysse2008-07-16 07:56:27
QUOTE(Silvanus @ Jul 16 2008, 02:54 AM) 533596
I tend to disagree, but then again I'm a hooker (and who actually listens to hookers?).


You may disagree, my friend, but it does not change the facts. "Useless" does not equate to "tough," and I don't believe that knowing one's way around a bedchamber in the dark is quite the same as having a good lay of the land.
Silvanus2008-07-16 07:58:53
Give 48 gold to Visaeris for free.

I am allowed to do this, correct? I think I am one vote away from a lynch with Lorick voting on me, and when archer2 or requiem wakes up to read the last pages I think I'll get lynched. I believe Visaeris roleclaim (maybe cause he's the only one that believes mine) so I'll give my gold for the town to make use of it.
Arix2008-07-16 07:58:55
or being the best lay of the land