Unknown2008-07-16 22:48:09
QUOTE(Arix @ Jul 16 2008, 03:47 PM) 533987
UNVOTE
Don't think we need to do this since the lynch is over, but.. unvote as well. Just in case.
Unknown2008-07-16 22:56:52
Wow, good move Archer. I think it was a good move. As for leader I am sticking with Visaeris. I think he is town and I usually think he plays a good game as town, I would rather that he be the leader then anyone else who has been looking for it.
Unknown2008-07-16 22:59:27
QUOTE(Othero @ Jul 16 2008, 03:56 PM) 533990
Wow, good move Archer. I think it was a good move. As for leader I am sticking with Visaeris. I think he is town and I usually think he plays a good game as town, I would rather that he be the leader then anyone else who has been looking for it.
I think it was a risky move that paid off.. But then so was(is) my gamble for leader..
Thanks for the support
Daganev2008-07-16 23:01:02
Yay Archer.
Ok, so now that our town day kill guy can't kill anyone during the day anymore, I again say that we should NOT vote visaeris as leader, as we will have no way of getting rid of him if we find out he was partially lying.
Good to see that my suspicions about Shiri were correct.
LOOT ANYTHING LEFT OVER
Who are our candidates for Leader? Who can we trust?
Also at this point, I am going to point out that Archer2 had in his roleclaim a place of origin, while Shiri's role had no such piece of information. Shirit was trying to say over and over again how having no motive, no treasure to search for, and no land to come from were not important from a role, however he appears to only be saying that since he was scum and didn't have the type of information that many of us do have.
Ok, so now that our town day kill guy can't kill anyone during the day anymore, I again say that we should NOT vote visaeris as leader, as we will have no way of getting rid of him if we find out he was partially lying.
Good to see that my suspicions about Shiri were correct.
LOOT ANYTHING LEFT OVER
Who are our candidates for Leader? Who can we trust?
Also at this point, I am going to point out that Archer2 had in his roleclaim a place of origin, while Shiri's role had no such piece of information. Shirit was trying to say over and over again how having no motive, no treasure to search for, and no land to come from were not important from a role, however he appears to only be saying that since he was scum and didn't have the type of information that many of us do have.
Amarysse2008-07-16 23:07:23
Well, we've lost the headsman's ability to land a certain deathblow, but at least we also managed to rid ourselves of a madman.
I am still leaning toward selecting the dragon-slayer as our leader, but this Atokero seems suited for the job, as well. Too well-suited, perhaps? Hmm... Difficult to say.
I am still leaning toward selecting the dragon-slayer as our leader, but this Atokero seems suited for the job, as well. Too well-suited, perhaps? Hmm... Difficult to say.
Xenthos2008-07-16 23:08:50
Unfortunately, that does not seem to truly give us much information in terms of electing a leader-- the debate was centered mostly upon Visaeris and Daganev, and now apparently Requiem, all who seem to greatly desire the position. The more they argue for it, the less convinced I am, but it does seem nothing will happen until we move ahead... so. Do we just elect Visaeris despite the objections/concerns to start on our adventure? Or do we try something else?
Unknown2008-07-16 23:08:53
QUOTE(daganev @ Jul 16 2008, 07:01 PM) 533992
Also at this point, I am going to point out that Archer2 had in his roleclaim a place of origin, while Shiri's role had no such piece of information. Shirit was trying to say over and over again how having no motive, no treasure to search for, and no land to come from were not important from a role, however he appears to only be saying that since he was scum and didn't have the type of information that many of us do have.
I'm not going to roleclaim but I am going to tell you that my role did not give me a place that I was from and I do not have a exact treasure that I am searching for. I really don't think we can go on something like that.
Thul2008-07-16 23:11:12
Unvote: Archer
Nice work, there. Lucky as all hell, ill-advised, and obviously irritating to Bali, but it did the job. Got a scum claim to play with now... I can see what they're lacking, and can use that. Unfortunately, it's pretty clear that the relative difficulty of faking a claim in this game is way lower than in Ponies or Lustermafia. My usual tactic won't be as effective here.
As for the leader... I've explained that I think it's a bad idea to nominate Requiem on account of absence. I'm uncertain of Visaeris after this recent "just get the lynch over with" spree, and I think he just wants it too badly.
Nominate Silvanus for leader
Nice work, there. Lucky as all hell, ill-advised, and obviously irritating to Bali, but it did the job. Got a scum claim to play with now... I can see what they're lacking, and can use that. Unfortunately, it's pretty clear that the relative difficulty of faking a claim in this game is way lower than in Ponies or Lustermafia. My usual tactic won't be as effective here.
As for the leader... I've explained that I think it's a bad idea to nominate Requiem on account of absence. I'm uncertain of Visaeris after this recent "just get the lynch over with" spree, and I think he just wants it too badly.
Nominate Silvanus for leader
Amarysse2008-07-16 23:11:42
I don't think that everyone necessarily has all the same bits of information: specific origin, motive, treasure, etc. For example, the water mage might have spent his entire life in an academy in the middle of nowhere, but he may have both a motive for joining and a particular relic (in this case, a chalice) he's seeking.
Amarysse2008-07-16 23:16:17
QUOTE(Thul @ Jul 16 2008, 06:11 PM) 533997
Nominate Silvanus for leader
This is a very, very bad idea. As I've reiterated more than once, we are advised specifically in the challenge to choose a leader who is tough, and has a good lay of the land. You may recall that Bianca (Silvanus) was the one Deckar (Shiri) supported for the position based on the prostitute's supposed uselessness and blandness. This is also a claim that Bianca herself has supported, which directly contradicts the recommendation made in the very beginning.
We do not need a weak leader.
Unknown2008-07-16 23:16:20
QUOTE(Thul @ Jul 16 2008, 04:11 PM) 533997
Unvote: Archer
Nice work, there. Lucky as all hell, ill-advised, and obviously irritating to Bali, but it did the job. Got a scum claim to play with now... I can see what they're lacking, and can use that. Unfortunately, it's pretty clear that the relative difficulty of faking a claim in this game is way lower than in Ponies or Lustermafia. My usual tactic won't be as effective here.
As for the leader... I've explained that I think it's a bad idea to nominate Requiem on account of absence. I'm uncertain of Visaeris after this recent "just get the lynch over with" spree, and I think he just wants it too badly.
Nominate Silvanus for leader
Nice work, there. Lucky as all hell, ill-advised, and obviously irritating to Bali, but it did the job. Got a scum claim to play with now... I can see what they're lacking, and can use that. Unfortunately, it's pretty clear that the relative difficulty of faking a claim in this game is way lower than in Ponies or Lustermafia. My usual tactic won't be as effective here.
As for the leader... I've explained that I think it's a bad idea to nominate Requiem on account of absence. I'm uncertain of Visaeris after this recent "just get the lynch over with" spree, and I think he just wants it too badly.
Nominate Silvanus for leader
The "get the lynch over with" was as a result of the 500 posts we argued in circles and my belief that lynching Silvanus would be the best way to prove my allegiances. The truth is, I just get bored when these games drag in circles. I'm a relatively decisive person.
I want the leader for the money. I'm not that wealthy and I believe that the items will play a key role in how this goes down, and the cash boost could be helpful.
QUOTE(Amarysse @ Jul 16 2008, 04:11 PM) 533998
I don't think that everyone necessarily has all the same bits of information: specific origin, motive, treasure, etc. For example, the water mage might have spent his entire life in an academy in the middle of nowhere, but he may have both a motive for joining and a particular relic (in this case, a chalice) he's seeking.
I can guarantee they don't, as I have no origin or specific treasure.
Unknown2008-07-16 23:19:11
As for looting the corpse - its a novel idea, and I'm embarassed to say I didnt think of it when creating the game. That being said, you cannot (in this game) loot corpses. Smart idea though, Thul.
Daganev2008-07-16 23:20:21
@othero: Darn... ok.
@Xenthos: I'm not fighting very hard for leader, I'm fighting very hard for Visaeris to NOT be leader.
Currently, I still want to lynch Visaeris personally. Nothing that has happened has given information to sway my concerns.
Hmm, how about we just vote Archer2 as leader? (Although actually... Shiri also had a daytime one shot kill ability, so maybe we shouldn't be trusting Archer2 fully yet) Shiri was a lone pychopath, not part of the mafia, so Archer isn't as validated as I had thought he was)
@Xenthos: I'm not fighting very hard for leader, I'm fighting very hard for Visaeris to NOT be leader.
Currently, I still want to lynch Visaeris personally. Nothing that has happened has given information to sway my concerns.
Hmm, how about we just vote Archer2 as leader? (Although actually... Shiri also had a daytime one shot kill ability, so maybe we shouldn't be trusting Archer2 fully yet) Shiri was a lone pychopath, not part of the mafia, so Archer isn't as validated as I had thought he was)
Daganev2008-07-16 23:23:01
QUOTE(Amarysse @ Jul 16 2008, 04:16 PM) 534003
This is a very, very bad idea. As I've reiterated more than once, we are advised specifically in the challenge to choose a leader who is tough, and has a good lay of the land. You may recall that Bianca (Silvanus) was the one Deckar (Shiri) supported for the position based on the prostitute's supposed uselessness and blandness. This is also a claim that Bianca herself has supported, which directly contradicts the recommendation made in the very beginning.
We do not need a weak leader.
We do not need a weak leader.
Allright you've conviced me.
NOMINATE ARCHER2 FOR LEADER
Shamarah2008-07-16 23:23:06
Well! That went nicely.
Amarysse2008-07-16 23:27:47
Hmm, I might have been mistaken in saying Deckar (Shiri) supported Bianca (Silvanus) as leader. (I've gone back from this page to page 12, and I'm starting to get a headache, though I might go back a bit more once I've eaten. ) In any case, here are two of Bianca's posts supporting her bid for leadership.
QUOTE(Silvanus @ Jul 16 2008, 01:38 AM) 533533
Yet you guys are voting to lynch me instead of nominate me as the leader. Which is why I put my name forward and everybody jumps on me for that because I said sleep my way to the top. How else is a hooker to get there? This is now the third or fourth time somebody has mentioned this other then me, yet nobody is nominating the least expendable person to roleclaim so far: a vanilla townie, which happens to be me. Shiri goes off and says it's safe to sacrifice the vanilla townie while you say it's best to put them as leader to minimize damage.
QUOTE(Silvanus @ Jul 16 2008, 02:41 AM) 533584
Everybody brings up these good points of why I should be leader (useless, has a good lay of the land, sleeps my way to the top).
My challenge is I use my esxual prowess to get what I want - why can't I use my challenge ability here? (I'm still confused on this subject though to understand how challenges work).
My challenge is I use my esxual prowess to get what I want - why can't I use my challenge ability here? (I'm still confused on this subject though to understand how challenges work).
Unknown2008-07-16 23:30:51
So, wait. You are suggesting we make Archer our leader? I know he killed Shiri but that was a REALLY lucky kill. I mean, if he is leader and leader has to make decisions during the challenges do we really want someone who seems happy to make insane decision and hopes it works out ok?
Unknown2008-07-16 23:38:17
Visaeris: 6 Votes (visaeris, zetsu, shamarah, arix, othero, archer2)
Silvanus: 2 Votes (silvanus, thul)
Daganev: 1 Vote (archer2)
Amarysse: 1 Vote (rika)
Archer2: 1 Vote (Daganev)
Unknown2008-07-16 23:39:44
Hm those standings are Bali's, lemme go back and check who Archer2's on.
Daganev2008-07-16 23:40:26
QUOTE(Othero @ Jul 16 2008, 04:30 PM) 534015
So, wait. You are suggesting we make Archer our leader? I know he killed Shiri but that was a REALLY lucky kill. I mean, if he is leader and leader has to make decisions during the challenges do we really want someone who seems happy to make insane decision and hopes it works out ok?
I want someone strong, and someone who I know I won't be voting to lynch at any time.
Currently the only person who fits that bill is Archer.