Mafia: The Quest

by Unknown

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Arix2008-07-17 06:30:35
Like now, when I reread Silferras' post and saw the bit about summation. If I have to scroll through large amounts of text, I tend to miss things, so I was asking for quotes of things that were said so I could go back to those posts and read them, as well as the responses to them. I still went through and read everything, but it takes awhile for me because I don't read fast. And last time I scrolled through too quickly, I missed someone voting and it turned into a ninja-lynch, so I'd like to avoid that if possible.
Silvanus2008-07-17 06:31:07
QUOTE(Lorick @ Jul 17 2008, 01:29 AM) 534326
Glad to hear you kept in your pants. Well, Silvanus, I'll not be voting for you unless something really drastic happens.

I think Balizar named me after Celina (Bianca, her former forum name).

So I'm a woman.
Lorick2008-07-17 06:32:00
Yeah, this game is pretty intense. Came back and we had like 9 new pages worth to read. Although, it does help to take the time to sit down and read it all. Just saying.
Unknown2008-07-17 06:33:20
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And last time I scrolled through too quickly, I missed someone voting and it turned into a ninja-lynch, so I'd like to avoid that if possible.


You were the mafia godfather, though, so who knows if that was an actual or intended ninja-lynch? tongue.gif

Coming back to this game..

As to those who have already roleclaimed, it's probably not wise to believe all of them, but we've pretty much exhausted every avenue of suspicion unless anyone feels like interrogating them further. They've also had the opportunity to really consolidate their roles, real or otherwise, and until someone spots some gaping hole in someone's case, it's pretty much a dead end.
Amarysse2008-07-17 06:33:43
I'm having difficulty in voting for Requiem simply because he hasn't posted in quite some time, and I'm interested in hearing his take on what's developed.

I'm also hesitant to jump on the bandwagon because I made a bad decision regarding Celina's role last game, which was similarly odd, and despite the implausibility of her role she ended up being on the side of the town. I'd prefer not to make that mistake again, so please forgive me for choosing to err on the side of caution this time.
Rika2008-07-17 06:35:34
I think you meant Casilu. Celina was indeed a mafia last game.
Lorick2008-07-17 06:36:17
Yeah, sorry about that last game. I sort of worked to help rush the lynch of a "nontargetable". And yeah, I'd like to hear Req's take on the new situation as well. I mean, if is role was true, then we have a dragonslayer with an already slain dragon.
Rika2008-07-17 06:37:22
QUOTE(Lorick @ Jul 17 2008, 06:36 PM) 534333
Yeah, sorry about that last game. I sort of worked to help rush the lynch of a "nontargetable". And yeah, I'd like to hear Req's take on the new situation as well. I mean, if is role was true, then we have a dragonslayer with an already slain dragon.


Don't really get the slain dragon bit. Explain please?
Arix2008-07-17 06:38:03
Celina was not pro-town last game.

Moving on back to this game, I'm kinda wondering about Requiem. I don't know if throwing a vote at him will get him to post or not, but I might as well. I have other people I am suspicious of, but I'm reading some posts just to make sure the things I'm suspicious about are worth pursuing.

VOTE: REQUIEM
Daganev2008-07-17 06:38:33
QUOTE(rika @ Jul 16 2008, 11:21 PM) 534317
Ok, now we are left with the question of who to lynch. I think we can ask ourselves one other question first. Do we want to lynch someone who has already roleclaimed or not? I'm inclined to believe all the claims that have already been made.


This combined with the "lets vote for lurkers who have been active" suggestion wins the

UNVOTE: VOTE TO LYNCH RIKA vote

FOS Othero: He's been hounding on me since the very first post, always trying to come up with some reason to rail on me. Not very sportsmanlike.
Lorick2008-07-17 06:38:40
Well, we talked about Visaeris challenge power, which helps him deal with dragons. Supposively, Req has a power that helps with leadership. IE, the challenge it is best suited for is already used. Thus, the phrase "dragonslayer with a slain dragon."
Rika2008-07-17 06:41:57
QUOTE(Lorick @ Jul 17 2008, 06:38 PM) 534337
Well, we talked about Visaeris challenge power, which helps him deal with dragons. Supposively, Req has a power that helps with leadership. IE, the challenge it is best suited for is already used. Thus, the phrase "dragonslayer with a slain dragon."


Oh, ok. I thought the dragonslayer bit was about Visaeris but I thought I had missed a dragon somewhere along the story.

@daganev: I suggested a way of doing things. Ie, believe the roleclaims and go for someone else.
Daganev2008-07-17 06:42:08
Yeah, just as I figured. Visaeris is going to get names in his head, and then bullrush through the game based on wanting to move fast, and get nice bandwagons.

It was nice knowing you fellowship, I am sad I will never get to see my plans for my airship.
Unknown2008-07-17 06:42:29
Ok, wow, we've got some interesting trends here.. A real strong pattern of just trying to move the day forward with limited thought or analysis.

To begin with, I'm going to jump off from her most recent post and go back in chronological order.

QUOTE(rika @ Jul 16 2008, 11:21 PM) 534317
Ok, now we are left with the question of who to lynch. I think we can ask ourselves one other question first. Do we want to lynch someone who has already roleclaimed or not? I'm inclined to believe all the claims that have already been made.


I've argued strongly against taking all the claims at their face value. We can't really trust all that much of the info we have, as we've established it's not that hard to fakeclaim because there's no theme. It's likely that at least one of the six roleclaims we have is a scum. That's just how it is. The numbers support that. So we can't operate on the assumption that they're all true. That's stupid. I think a scum has roleclaimed and she's trying to cover it up.

QUOTE(rika @ Jul 16 2008, 02:38 PM) 533913
Long day ones suck. As Visaeris says, we're going in circles. Hey, we might even get to a point where we've had sixteen roleclaims. <.<

As such, let's just Vote: Archer. I think Balizar said something about us finding out more information on day two. If Archer wants to push for day two so much, we'll help him, right?


What is this? This is terrible reasoning. This is absolutely atrocious. But what's telling are the next two quotes:

QUOTE(rika @ Jul 16 2008, 02:30 PM) 533902
Would anyone else like to comment on Visaeris' desire to get Silvanus lynched after the defending he did?


QUOTE(rika @ Jul 16 2008, 02:19 PM) 533894
Ok, am I the only one who finds it suspicious that after all that defending of Silvanus, Visaeris turns around and tells us that he wants to lynch him to clear himself?


These statements were made when Daganev was starting to go after me, and it strikes me as her kind of wanting to go after me but not really getting onboard. Note that the attempts Daganev made to see me bounced were unfruitful: no votes against me materialised, and what do you know, Rika didn't jump in after her attempts were ignored.

Next:
QUOTE(rika @ Jul 16 2008, 02:05 PM) 533888
Unvote Silvanus

I kept my vote there overnight just in case the town found more reason to want to lynch. That hasn't happened, so I'm taking it off.


QUOTE(rika @ Jul 16 2008, 01:06 AM) 533607
Bleh. Day ones are annoying. I guess I should Vote: Silvanus for progress.


"Progress"? The guy was, at the time, like 7 lynches away. Again she failed to offer any analysis, simply voting for whomever was the most convenient target.

QUOTE(rika @ Jul 15 2008, 11:48 PM) 533544
So, I've been reading the debates about who should be leader and such. There are good reasons for the fellowship against nominating ANYONE as leader. I'm with Shiri in that this is probably just for the no lynch and extra gold. As such, I'm reluctant to nominate anyone who has actually put their own names forward and continually defended their cases. Why? Because this is exactly what the scum would want. So, let's give it to someone quiet instead. I'll just Nominate Amarysse as leader for now.


This statement comes well after the "pick a random leader" theory was shot down prettymuch universally as a totally terrible idea. Yet she persisted.

QUOTE(rika @ Jul 15 2008, 09:36 PM) 533420
Vote: Silvanus

I'll quote your original roleclaim so it's easier:
Another point is that I don't think you get told what you need to buy to 'upgrade' your powers. And you stated that you could buy hooker attire for fifty gold, twice. You immediately changed it once Shiri pointed it out.


And here's where the magic happens. Another vote against Silvanus as he built up, with something resembling a reason! Why there could be a method to this madness.. Except, the problem is... 3 posts later she votes to shitcan Silvanus simply for progress. Where does this inkling of a reason, of a method go? Who knows.

The summary here is simple. Rika's contributed nothing and hopped around with the tide, picking targets of opportunity instead of reason. Her posts are unhelpful bordering on uselessness. She offers no insight, and no contribution to the game. She simply shows up and votes with the wind, in the hopes of taking out a target simply to take one out. There's no anguish, second thought, or consideration as to the issues. Just votes.

Scum.

Unvote
Vote: Rika

I hope you guys will join me
Daganev2008-07-17 06:43:32
QUOTE(rika @ Jul 16 2008, 11:41 PM) 534338
@daganev: I suggested a way of doing things. Ie, believe the roleclaims and go for someone else.


yes you did, and that is a scummy way of trying to find out more information so they know who to target at night.
Unknown2008-07-17 06:46:12
Also, Dag, I'd like you to pop your bag of tricks again. Call it an experiment. Would you do that for me, buddy?
Amarysse2008-07-17 06:46:21
Bah. Rika is right. Casilu, not Celina. The sentiment is the same, in any case!
Lorick2008-07-17 06:46:26
Sure, I'll go with you on this. I agree on most points, and I'd like for us not to ninja lynch please. Lets at least hear the roleclaim.

Vote: Rika
Silvanus2008-07-17 06:46:32
QUOTE(daganev @ Jul 17 2008, 01:42 AM) 534339
Yeah, just as I figured. Visaeris is going to get names in his head, and then bullrush through the game based on wanting to move fast, and get nice bandwagons.

It was nice knowing you fellowship, I am sad I will never get to see my plans for my airship.

Paranoid much?

I am keeping my vote on Requiem and the FoS on Rika. Rika always acts scummy based on her very uninformative posts and absolutely random voting and lynching in every game. It's really hard to understand where she comes from.
Daganev2008-07-17 06:47:04
QUOTE(Visaeris Maeloch @ Jul 16 2008, 11:46 PM) 534342
Also, Dag, I'd like you to pop your bag of tricks again. Call it an experiment. Would you do that for me, buddy?


Sorry, one time use only.