Mafia: The Quest

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Amarysse2008-07-17 06:54:49
QUOTE(Visaeris Maeloch @ Jul 17 2008, 01:53 AM) 534362
6. And we can't lynch her until she puts up a defence/roleclaim/something.


Aha, that's right! I'm so glad that rule was put into place.
Daganev2008-07-17 06:54:57
QUOTE(Lorick @ Jul 16 2008, 11:51 PM) 534354
Ok.. I get that. The desire to say in the game, ect. But... Why do you fling it around at everybody?


Everybody?

I point out scummy behavior. When somebody does something which I think could benefit them if they were scum, I point it out.
Unknown2008-07-17 06:55:13
QUOTE(Silferras @ Jul 16 2008, 11:52 PM) 534360
I find it a little strange that a 'one-shot power' like a bag of tricks would fizzle out like that, though. Any comments on the possibility of mod-illusions like the one given to someone in a previous game?


Frankly not convinced Dag would come up with something that clever..

Last game he illusioned the mod threatening about talking about the game outside the game.
Lorick2008-07-17 06:55:22
Yeah.. And the idea that a "Bag of tricks" is a one shot, kinda doesn't make sense.
Amarysse2008-07-17 06:56:43
QUOTE(daganev @ Jul 17 2008, 01:54 AM) 534368
Everybody?

I point out scummy behavior. When somebody does something which I think could benefit them if they were scum, I point it out.


Yes, but you paint everyone with the same broad brush. Some of us may agree with our current leader, and some may not, and I'd like to think that in either case, it's because they've thought the situation through and come to a decision on their own- not simply because that's what he believes.
Lorick2008-07-17 06:57:08
But, it isn't the first time a power was named strangely or thought too powerful to exist.
Unknown2008-07-17 06:57:31
QUOTE(Amarysse @ Jul 16 2008, 11:56 PM) 534371
Yes, but you paint everyone with the same broad brush. Some of us may agree with our current leader, and some may not, and I'd like to think that in either case, it's because they've thought the situation through and come to a decision on their own- not simply because that's what he believes.


Curiously enough my leader title did not come with a magic "force people to agree with you" button. I wish it had, would make things much easier.
Unknown2008-07-17 06:57:36
Sorry, I want to clarify that it's not that I think it should be a 100% successful use every time, but that even if the chance of something happening is 50/50, the term 'bag of tricks' suggests that it's anything but one-shot.
Amarysse2008-07-17 06:59:02
QUOTE(Silferras @ Jul 17 2008, 01:57 AM) 534375
Sorry, I want to clarify that it's not that I think it should be a 100% successful use every time, but that even if the chance of something happening is 50/50, the term 'bag of tricks' suggests that it's anything but one-shot.


Whether or not he can use it more than once, I honestly don't think he would at Visaeris's request. Their rivalry seems fairly intense.
Lorick2008-07-17 07:00:59
True enough, but I believe it was Sil who was asking for the use.
Lorick2008-07-17 07:02:05
And I have to admit, strange globes hitting people at random instill the same kinda of fear as One-shot vigs using it day 1. (Good job though, you got em!).

So, I'm very, very happy he didn't use it, even if he could.
Unknown2008-07-17 07:02:06
QUOTE(Amarysse @ Jul 16 2008, 11:59 PM) 534376
Whether or not he can use it more than once, I honestly don't think he would at Visaeris's request. Their rivalry seems fairly intense.


Neat thing is he could've ignored me, but he's just outright said it was one shot. If someone investigates him and finds out he wasn't being truthful, well... You lynch liars, because they compromise things. So he's either being honest or he's confident he won't get caught. It's irrelevant at this point.

QUOTE(Lorick @ Jul 17 2008, 12:00 AM) 534377
True enough, but I believe it was Sil who was asking for the use.


No, it was me.

Now, where did Rika go.. She's on the forums still..
Rika2008-07-17 07:02:29
QUOTE(Visaeris Maeloch @ Jul 17 2008, 06:42 PM) 534340
I've argued strongly against taking all the claims at their face value. We can't really trust all that much of the info we have, as we've established it's not that hard to fakeclaim because there's no theme. It's likely that at least one of the six roleclaims we have is a scum. That's just how it is. The numbers support that. So we can't operate on the assumption that they're all true. That's stupid. I think a scum has roleclaimed and she's trying to cover it up.


I haven't taken all the claims at their face value. I only did that once, to choose the leader. The thing is we've already gone through the role claims a few times. Silvanus' role claim had quite a few holes. After a bit of poking, he gave a better roleclaim. Some chose not to believe him, and you jumped on those people. Requiem's claim of having the second ability, innate leadership, was found a bit suspicious by some people. I already stated that I wasn't part of this group. The rest have all had pretty sound roleclaims.

QUOTE(Visaeris Maeloch @ Jul 17 2008, 06:42 PM) 534340
These statements were made when Daganev was starting to go after me, and it strikes me as her kind of wanting to go after me but not really getting onboard. Note that the attempts Daganev made to see me bounced were unfruitful: no votes against me materialised, and what do you know, Rika didn't jump in after her attempts were ignored.


I'm sorry I cannot post as convincingly as you. I am not going to be stupid and actually press something that clearly no one else wants.

QUOTE(Visaeris Maeloch @ Jul 17 2008, 06:42 PM) 534340
"Progress"? The guy was, at the time, like 7 lynches away. Again she failed to offer any analysis, simply voting for whomever was the most convenient target.


No, Silvanus was, according to your post about two or three posts before mine at seven posts. We were on page sixteen and still day one. I was getting pretty annoyed at how we were going around in circles. So yes, that vote was because everyone else decided they found Silvanus suspicious again.

As for the amount of contributions I've made, what has been accepted is a lot less than what I have actually tried to contribute. I'm a very slow reader and typer, and usually by the time I can finish reading/posting, the points I try to make have already been made by someone else.
Daganev2008-07-17 07:02:54
QUOTE(Silferras @ Jul 16 2008, 11:52 PM) 534360
I find it a little strange that a 'one-shot power' like a bag of tricks would fizzle out like that, though. Any comments on the possibility of mod-illusions like the one given to someone in a previous game?


I figured out after I used it that, I was supposed to wait to buy some things from the store, or have some challenge happen and then use it later in the game. I didn't read the hints in my role closely enough.

I also thought that since I had a bag of tricks with unkown effects that it was a once per day, not once per game role.

@visaeris: But it doesn't matter, we've lost anyway, you can lynch me if you feel the urge to get revenge for someone being so vocal as in not believing your role. I give you the benefit of power because you are unlynchable and people want to believe that they made the right choice in something they can't undo.

@lolrick: With people like you who are just willing to sell thier vote away, I don't see how one can think that people are voting because they have tought things through. I mean, look how quickly everyone jumped from Requim to Rika. yes, I voted for Rika as well, but on my own, before anyone made lenghtly posts detailing the clues to you. People need to know how to come to these conclusions without requiring other people to spoon feed it to them.
Lorick2008-07-17 07:03:05
Ah, hmm, well. There you go.
Rika2008-07-17 07:03:10
And now I'm off to dinner. Will be back soonish.
Silvanus2008-07-17 07:03:55
Why is Daganev being so defensive when nobody was really accusing him of anything?

Unvote: Requiem
Vote: Daganev


Things happen when people are pushed, people slip up. Daganev's prone to slip up somewhere most likely, besides pressuring requiem now seems useless since hes not here. I've been suspicious of Daganev before anybody else because of Arix and Thul(I think it was Thul) jumping to nominate him as leader based on very little (then trying to distance themselves from him).
Lorick2008-07-17 07:07:20
You know what, yeah, I suspect Dag as being scum more at this point than I do Rika.

Vote: Daganev
Unknown2008-07-17 07:07:25
Why is Daganev being so rediculously negative? Just about every post has included how we are already doomed. I mean, is there something we don't know that you do or do you just really hate this game? Are you that upset you are not leader?
Unknown2008-07-17 07:07:49
QUOTE(daganev @ Jul 17 2008, 12:02 AM) 534381
I figured out after I used it that, I was supposed to wait to buy some things from the store, or have some challenge happen and then use it later in the game. I didn't read the hints in my role closely enough.

I also thought that since I had a bag of tricks with unkown effects that it was a once per day, not once per game role.

@visaeris: But it doesn't matter, we've lost anyway, you can lynch me if you feel the urge to get revenge for someone being so vocal as in not believing your role. I give you the benefit of power because you are unlynchable and people want to believe that they made the right choice in something they can't undo.

@lolrick: With people like you who are just willing to sell thier vote away, I don't see how one can think that people are voting because they have tought things through. I mean, look how quickly everyone jumped from Requim to Rika. yes, I voted for Rika as well, but on my own, before anyone made lenghtly posts detailing the clues to you. People need to know how to come to these conclusions without requiring other people to spoon feed it to them.


Hang on let me find my violin.

QUOTE(rika @ Jul 17 2008, 12:02 AM) 534380
No, Silvanus was, according to your post about two or three posts before mine at seven posts. We were on page sixteen and still day one. I was getting pretty annoyed at how we were going around in circles. So yes, that vote was because everyone else decided they found Silvanus suspicious again.


I meant the guy was sitting at 7 votes, just lynches away. It was a typo on my part. Regardless, I'm glad you've confirmed that, and you've admitted that you voted for him just to move things along without any real solid evidence.

You're at 6 votes, 2 away from a lynch. Would you like to roleclaim or offer an affirmative defense against the charges I've levelled at you: unhelpfulness, eagerness to ride the bandwagon, and a distinct odor of scum.