Oh, I don't know. Maybe its because Visaeris said he wants to lynch me as soon as he hs the chance and so far, since he has become leader, everything he has said people have bandwagoned on him to do.

Daganev, I've wanted to lynch you since this game started too.

Erm, hardly. We didn't argue for pages worth over merchant/eyepatch cause he wasn't leader.

I find it rather unhelpful, Daganev, that you continue to claim we've already lost somehow. I would imagine that if this were the case, we wouldn't still be here arguing about it. I understand that you're not happy with our current leader, but the fact remains that he was chosen by the fellowship. Please consider your motivations for continuing before you respond next. To clarify, I mean that you ought to make sure you're actually trying to help the fellowship, and not just persisting out of spite, because it really, honestly, looks like the latter rather than the former.

The two of you have a rivalry. It's obvious, and we can all see it. But please, please, try to spend more time addressing the current issues and less time sniping at him, because it's only making you look as if you have a vendetta.

I am not upset that Visaeris is leader. I am upset that a member of the mafia is our leader.

and no, I don't know anything that you don't know, I don't have any special information that you don't have.

Emphasis mine.

This is categorically untrue, and a prime example of the sort of negativity that's been mentioned by others. If you need to take a step back, then, by all means, do so, but playing the part of the incensed, reactionary, would-be martyr is not helpful to anyone.

In what sense? I'm not saying that I completely and utterly believe that Visaeris is fellowship, but we have to go somewhere. I pointed out something about Rika that seemed fishy to me, then Visaeris combed through the posts and added his own suspicions with evidence to back him up. Instead of claiming that we're all mindlessly bandwagoning with him, why not explain why you think Rika is or isn't scum, which would be quite a bit more constructive than naysaying and general rivalry-induced slander.

And if you don't have any of this said special information, what is it that makes you so sure that Visaeris is scum, Daganev?

I suggested that Rika is scum because she, like Shiri, is doing her best to get the town to get people to roleclaim and find out more information about us so that she knows better who to target.

Personally, I think this should be obvious to everyone.

Reading through the whole thread again.. Some very interesting stuff here.. Rika please hold off on posting a roleclaim.

You can read all about in pages 11 - 23 I think.

Heh, figures. Here it comes.

Othero- He keeps getting highly defensive, likes to point the finger at others but seems to do it with a sort irrational quality. Also, I don't believe his claim is total true. Dwarf, sure. Airship, sure. He has been wishy washy on the bag of tricks issue, which he now says can be resupply via shop. Personally, I feel that isn't the case, or that he has other attributes. To be honest, he would make a good psycho. The nihilist attidude doesn't really help us either. And I have to admit, attempting to lynch me for a little profiteering in an issue that was long decided doesn't make me feel better either.

Okay. Fine. So you suggested that Rika is scum, but at the same time you're uncategorically stating, with a self-admitted lack of any knowledge or special information, that Visaeris is a member of the mafia?

I'm not saying that you're wrong, but an explanation would be nice.

Its simple, he lied, and he was pushing very hard to be leader. If you need more details, there are 10 or so pages you can read of arguments.

That sort of behaviour is really no different in the end that Rika's.

Why don't you just quit instead of whining. I'd rather we replace you with Karnagan who might actually contribute instead of bitching all night long, son.