17th-18th century is far, far from old English. Old English is much closer to German than it is to modern English, and is to a large extent incomprehensible to a modern English speaker.

I said old English, not Old English!

Oh, I forgot.

Maylea means wildflower in Hawaiian.

For some reason I always picture her as the Flower Card from Card Captor Sakura though..

It's also a brand of margarine.

My mental image is fried now.

You have found her out.

Maylea is The Blob.

I can't believe it's not butter!

I can't believe it's not butt.

Morgfyre's symbol is the Ouroboros... and doesn't he actually live in some sort of sea? He's more like Jortmungandr.

I'm yet to see a Fenrir or Sleipnir, though I think I've seen someone with Sleipnir as a weapon. Idly, I wonder if they named their weapon that knowing about Loki's child, or if they named it that being unaware that it's Old Norse for "slipper".

Charune's imagery seems similar to Cernunnos or The Green Man, to me.

Wicca, Druids... obvious references.

Runes -- more Norse goodness.

Fae are from around the world.

Sirens for the Domoth of Beauty are a reference to the Greek Sirens, as seen in the Odyssey.

Kethuru is Cthulhu.

Angels and Demons... well... duh.

Selene, Luna, and Albion being Avatars of the Moon. While Albion has no Moon reference (but it means white, to be fair), Selene is the Greek Goddess of the Moon. Also, interesting to note, the Triple Goddess is most notably from Wicca, seeing is Wicca follows the "Maiden, Mother, Crone" idealogy.

More from the Greeks: The Moirae, the Weavers of Fate. Clotho, Lachesis, and Atropos.

Dracnari and Dracnoris come from the Latin Draco, for Dragon. Dracnoris is even referred to as the Dragon God. Wondering where the noris came from. Chuck Norris? :: Kidding. ::

Aslaran and Aslarn seems like a pun off of Aslan, the lion from The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe.

Furrikin... Furrykin are people who are furries, or believe themselves to be (incarnates of) animals.

Illith seems a direct pun off the name Lilith. Which breaks my heart, Lilith is a demon in Jewish Mythology only because she wanted to be on top instead of Adam. No love right there.

Familiars, witches are known to have familiars, made popularly known by the mishaps of the Salem Witch Trials.

The Moon, Night, and Faethorn fae seem to be a play off of the Seelie, Unseelie, and Solitary fae, in my opinion.

Nacht is night in German... either they made it Nocht instead, or I'm one language off.

The four directions, North, South, East, and West seem to play together. If I'm correct, Serenwilde's North, Celest is West, Glomdoring is South, and Magnagora is East. North - Earth. South - Fire. East - Air. West - Water. The North is associated with Fertility and Growth, I.E., Serenwilde. Simple enough, trees and all. East is Air, standing for awareness and philosophy. Interesting note, East also has to do with intellect, and Magnagora does seem to be the most technologically advanced of the four orgs. What's needed to sustain Fire? Air. If you consider that Magnagora is Tainted, East in Lusternia could also stand for Taint. Taint mixed in with a forest made the Wyrd, or the South. Fire stands for purification, and Isune thought she was purifying Glomdoring of the Taint when she did what she had, but instead she created the Wyrd. Finally, West, Water... Water... Celest... erm... yeah, you get it.

Also, if you consider Nihilists to be like Satanists, both Satanists and Nihilists think very highly of themselves, and believe themselves to be superior to others. If any Satanists want to pop up to refute what I'm saying, go ahead, but I know like 10 Satanists and one of them said that Satanism is about "Me first". Plus, Demon Lords. Come on.

Celestines seems to be Christian-y, even with the blind following of the Light. (Face it, there are some people who are blindly Christian, just as there are people who are blindly Jewish, blindly Islamic, blindly Wiccan, blindly atheist, blindly Scientologist, et cetera). They have angels, after all. Throw on the idea of Eventru, who uses the royal We, makes me think Eventru as being a tri-God, like the God of Abraham.

Moondancers are supposed to be fluffybunnies for the most part, or completely righthand path Wiccans. They, for a time, had their Lady and Lord, Lisaera and Charune.

Shadowdancers are supposed to be stereotypical witches. Stereotype one: Baby killing. Stereotype two: Emo. (I love you guys?)

"Power to the Pastries" is obviously "Power to the People", a slogan that's been used to protest various things over time, such as the rich or the military campaign in Vietnam.

Dreamweaving, also, is a psychic ability. Whether or not you believe it actually possible, it's still labeled as such and an obvious snatch.

Telekinesis, Telepathy, please tell me you people noticed those as well.

Glamour is the name of what fae use to make themselves seem to be normal human beings, animals, or just look different in general. Fae also use Glamour to hide things or make things look like other things.

Alchemy, Astrology, Hexes, Necromancy, and Tarot should be another obvious shout-out. As should Roulette and Blackjack. Ditto for Centaurs.

The Wiccans have Athames and Brooms. Surprised they're not called Besoms, tho.

Manses are houses that have or have had Presbyterian/Baptist/United Church/Methodist ministers living in them.

It is common, in magick, to Invoke and Evoke spirits, elementals, Gods, angels, demons, what have you.


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I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting (sadly so), but I'd like to stop thinking for a little while about it.

Edit: My only point to this edit is to brag that I did not hop to another site to try to find stuff, I already knew all of this stuff. No idea what it says about me. Probably that I'm a dork, but, c'est la vie.

I always though Illith and her shards were a reference the D§D Illithoids

Im just strange

It's possible it's that. I just thought of Lilith because Illith was a female and Lilith created swarms of demons once she was thrown out of Eden for refusing to be on the bottom during sex with Adam. Obviously, if she created the demons, part of her went into them. Similar to the Illithoids, who have part of Illith in them.

Somewhere in the back of my mind rings a bell that she was thrown out for more (or less) than favored position during sexual intercourse...

I remember reading some story somewhere about that topic...

But to hell with that, the bible has been translated, missunderstood and edited for various reasons for centuries.

And censured, aswell.

Still a great story though, depending on what you read its either a grotesque vile tale or a message of hope.

Enough about that however.

I shall stop this now.

I'd have to agree with the Illith/oid = Illithid thing. I mean, Illithoid is one letter off from Illithid, and they're both psychic races.

And, of course, apart from the Kethuru=Cthulhu things, theres more Lovecraft love in the mythos. Soulless/Great Old Ones vs Elder Gods, etc.

A subtle note which I don't know if it was intended or not is that Cthulhu is waiting until the stars are right to come back. Kethuru is imprisoned on the Astral plane, which is made up of our starsigns.
And I seem to remember something shortly after Morgfyre appeared about his body being buried under one of the Seas, and Him also waiting for the stars.

There was some other stuff, but I can't remember it at the moment.

The fact that its on the internet dosnt help to change the fact that it is probably differing in great detail from the original story, as is my knowledge of it aswell.

When a thousand storytellers tell truth, truth changes.

When a thousand painters paint, the colours soon become impure.

Misreadings, fault in translations, "whisper down the lane" games.

Even between four people the facts of a story can change completely.

I know the story, the point I was trying to make was, well, there are a thousand different ones, even if only in minute details, and none of those are more true than the others, or perhaps they are, but we wont really know.

The wiccan broom, sometimes called a besom, is about eight feet long. The staff
of the broom is made of ash, ancient and gnarled, and the bristles are of birch
twigs bound with willow. The broom vibrates with energy and the air slightly
warps around it.
It has 4 months of usefulness left.
It weighs about 4 pounds and 11 ounce(s).

Slightly awkwardly written, but it's there. There's also the chakras in lowmagic, from Hinduism; and the four humors in healing, from ancient Greek medicine.

Edit: There's also this from Wydyr. Sounds like Gollum to me.

You greet Cythrawl Scathach with a sincere smile.
Cythrawl Scathach exclaims, "Stupids elfenses! They stole my precious Rhianna!"
Cythrawl Scathach begins to weep uncontrollably.

oh oh oh i just read about Aether today. Ok so scientists used it to explain Newtonian physics concept of gravity. And basically aether was the stuff in between matter, kind of like a big pool that everything sat in i guess...i was reading it in my book and i was like 'oh lusternia reference!'




-When i think of Fain's pet wolf i think of Fenrir as a reference.

-lul oh furrys.

-lul clearly she is evil, i seem to remember her being involved with stealing newborn/stillborn babies? as well.

-i wouldnt say the Celestians are christian, because in the time i've talked to them about their religions and all i dont see them trying to save others you know? I would think if they were christian archetypes they would want to convert the world to light? cleanse tainted Mag's of their sins and so forth. Originally i did think they were christiany as well but i think they just have a similar vague outlines in their nuances and all but very different in teachings reflecting actions.

but eh thats my opinion.

and i was proud of myself i got like 75% of the references you listed

Noris is the Latin name for the German city of Nuremberg.



The IC philosophy of Nihilism does have a number of parallels with LaVeyan Satanism, but there aren't realy that many links with theistic Satanism. Infact, I would say that it is closer to Judaism and some parts of Christianity than Satanism. Lichdom is rather similar to the concept of the Resurrection and the promised life after death of Christianity. There's also alot of crucifixion going on in Nihilism. The Old Testament God is full of wrath and turns people into pillars of salt and regularly smites people, which is inline with Ashtorath.

Celestineism is much more new Testament, with saint Joya (I forget how it's spelled; it's been along time since I've been in the Celestine guildhall), Razelia's "love everyone, even if they are your enemy" philosophy, the Vernal Goddess Marilynth sacrificing herself to save mortalkind despite temptation to join the "evil" side and the Light itself (1 John 1:5: "This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all.") There's also superficial stuff, such as angels and Celestia being a heavenly garden.