I was talking to a few people about this but I thought I would bring it here. The only HighFashion pattern in tailoring is Gowns. We don't have a male-centric design and I have no idea what could be used. Doublets were suggest. The idea of having vests and jackets that can not be proofed but had something extra was suggested. I have no idea what the extra could be. I was thinking a full suit could be the design but I am not really positive about it.

Anyone have any ideas or comments? It is depressing we have highfashion but all we can make are gowns.

Agreed, why only have one high fashion pattern, that's just a waste. Add full dress suits for guys would be great, really be nice to have more high fashion patterns for important events like weddings and such.

I am almost positive that you currently can not wear a jacket and a vest because of how the layers work. So maybe highfashion could have vests and jackets added that can not be proofed but can be worn together making a full dress suit workable.

tuxedos

I endorse this idea/product

I demand a ruffed collar. And a wig.

Yeah, you can't wear a vest and coat. Which makes little sense to me, but it would be nice to have it fixed.

I also support the tuxedo idea. Not having them already is a travesty.

Tuxedos indeed.

I like Tuxedos. Lusternia needs dashing men.

Couple of days later, there's some guy / admin running around in a tuxedo and a top hat, throwing roses and using a pimp stick black cane that can extend to beat the out of random things.


I haven't played in a while, but I vote pro for the tuxedo idea. I love the girl designs, but the guys need a reason to wear clothes.

Besides the effect it has on influencing, and a desire not to be naked?

It feels like there are plenty of reasons for guys to wear clothes (armour especially), there just isn't a high-fashion male outfit. And it does make sense for there to be one.

There's no reason why guys can't wear gowns.











































Academic gowns that is...

I fully agree with suits. If we get suits, I will return to the game *maybe*. It's the clothing of a real man. And women look great in them too.

Men can wear gowns. Men and women both wore gowns from the middle ages to the 17th century. Besides, a tuxedo can be made just by making the pieces that comprise a tuxedo. Formal pants, jacket, jacket, shirt etc. A tuxedo isn't just one piece to have one pattern for it. A suit is even comprised of several pieces, therefore wouldn't work as one pattern either.

I definitly think gown, at least for Lusternia and tailoring, is refering to a ball gown. And anything like a tuxedo or a full 3-piece suit is impossible with the current set up. Both would be pants, shirt, jacket, and a waist-coat/vest. Because of the way layers work for tailoring patterns you can't wear a vest and a jacket. They both take up the exact same spots.

I didn't know about the layering part as my character hasn't ever tried to wear a jacket and vest at once. That part should be altered I would think to allow the mens a little more fashion leeway.

Why do you think gowns in Lusternia are strictly feminine though? Is it because no one has butched the gown up a bit? Think of the general perception of a costume worn by Henry VIII. He is frequently depicted wearing a gown. Essentially it resembles a long, belted tunic worn with hose but it is a gown.

Open your fashion mind dahlings, and you too can look fierce.

ETA~ I totally need to design a Henry VIII type ensemble for Jigan. He would look perfect! We could even find him a leg of mutton to wield.

The thing is, the gown in the sense that men wore, can be defined in greatrobes. ME WANT TUXEDO

If we are using King Henry as a reference, his gown was the large fur lined item that he wore. It was usually knee length at that point, it was kept ankle length for judges, scholars, and other professionals. What is belted is his jerkin which is then open to show his doublet.


A male gown that would be belted is even older and was refered to as a houppelande. Now what I could figure out is that it was more of a everyday sort of wear. Highfashion isn't.

And I understand a closed, ankle length gown for a male if they are a scholar but the greatrobes really do play that part.

And a gown in Lusternia has to be ankle length. the layers for a gown are

I want a mankini please.

I can offer a manset? The mankini might take a bit.