Mafia: Elder Wars Redux

by Rika

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Saaga2008-08-02 00:07:33
I'd rather keep an air of mystery for now, since this is my first game and all. I'll roleclaim a bit later on. Vote: Revan. Shady, I says.
Xenthos2008-08-02 00:09:07
QUOTE(requiem dot exe @ Aug 1 2008, 08:04 PM) 539672
*Xenthos is implying that he's Tae, but hasn't actually said so. Partially volunteering information, so he can manipulate the masses, and then change his story later is fairly typical of him though. I'm counting on him coming up with a different name later. Either when he claims or when he dies.

Really, now! I've more than simply implied. If I was to state any other name later, the "lynch all liars" rule would definitely come out in full force.

Me still misses me Bollykins, though!
Daganev2008-08-02 00:09:19
It is friday, so I will be gone for a while. See you when I get back.
Shayle2008-08-02 00:26:22
Hmmm...

Shammy's back. (I understand not being able to get to the computer for hours; it's summer!)

unvote: Shamarah

Now I have to think a bit. err.gif
Unknown2008-08-02 00:38:40
Nameclaiming isn't a bad idea, but it isn't a good one, either, at least not on the first day. I just hope to heck that our doctor, roleblocker(s) and vig will keep their names to themselves if there is any way that their role can be discerned from the name.

That said, while Revan makes a good point, I can't help but think that his vehemence against it is rather telling.

Unvote

Vote: Revan
Unknown2008-08-02 00:38:48
This fish goes *Blub Blub*. On a real note I will be gone for an hour or so on menial tasks etc.
Shiri2008-08-02 00:52:46
I am way against this mass roleclaim. Why are people voting Requiem for it when Thul claimed it was his fault? We should be voting Thul if I didn't misread/confuse something. Thul should know better. This provides very little advantage to us if we tell the truth, since the scum won't and since the list of Elders are easy to identify...well, we won't be able to tell the scum aren't lying unless they completely fluke out and hit the exact same gods as us, which could just as easily backfire.

The ONLY real information we got out of that is either that Silvanus got a hell of a lot more cunning than he used to play these games, or he is actually Lanta or whatever its name is (and thus 99% innocent). My intuition is telling me the former but I could easily be wrong, so even that's not that helpful to us.
Arix2008-08-02 00:55:44
UNVOTE: REQUIEM

Since he's actually posting now
Lorick2008-08-02 01:08:09
Because I return to a mass claim.
Unknown2008-08-02 01:36:12
My god... Mass name claiming was not a good idea. Like the others have said before you are making it easy for you to be picked off. The mafia knows who the non mafia are, but they don't know the vanilla townies from the important ones. With name claiming (assuming that the gods name are somewhat similar to their personalities IG/histories) you are making it easy to get sniped off.
Revan2008-08-02 01:40:06
Wow, so you guys are jumping on me because I pointed out that mass roleclaiming is stupid? Wow... just... wow. Also, anyone who knows me knows i am brash, veement and to the point. Ask Shiri.

Anyone who's read their Lusternia History knows who's Traitor and who isn't. I don't get where you see the "A name is just a name" theory from, because in this game, the names ARE telling. How about you all quit being naive. As for you Dag, yea, i misread some posts and thought you started the roleclaim train. Anyway, Requiem and Thul should be our targets for starting something that could very well ruin people.

unvote
Vote: Requiem
Revan2008-08-02 01:40:24
Vehement.. not veement
Shiri2008-08-02 01:40:35
Ok, I see what happened. Requiem roleclaimed after Thul's suggestion. I still think Thul would be the better person to go for if we were to go for either of these people.
Shiri2008-08-02 01:42:13
And "to the point" is not something I would call Revan but I can go with "brash" and "loud." And flipping out all the time. That's regular ol' Revan.
Unknown2008-08-02 01:55:55
I dunno, it'd seem too risky for a real scum to have called the role claim. While I wasn't for it, I don't sense any malicious intent either. I'm staying firm on my vote, day 2 should give a lot more info seeing how today will turn out.
Unknown2008-08-02 01:59:50
I hate to say it but I know very little about the history of the game or who the gods are and I look up information on names and what not as it comes to me. as is I believe I am probably going to be the least informed with godly information lol.
Unknown2008-08-02 02:07:19
I see you thul.
Thul2008-08-02 02:10:40
QUOTE(Shiri @ Aug 1 2008, 07:52 PM) 539697
I am way against this mass roleclaim. Why are people voting Requiem for it when Thul claimed it was his fault? We should be voting Thul if I didn't misread/confuse something. Thul should know better. This provides very little advantage to us if we tell the truth, since the scum won't and since the list of Elders are easy to identify...well, we won't be able to tell the scum aren't lying unless they completely fluke out and hit the exact same gods as us, which could just as easily backfire.

The ONLY real information we got out of that is either that Silvanus got a hell of a lot more cunning than he used to play these games, or he is actually Lanta or whatever its name is (and thus 99% innocent). My intuition is telling me the former but I could easily be wrong, so even that's not that helpful to us.


I don't actually know better. I think it's been fairly well established by this point that I am an information whore... this hasn't changed over three games, now. I find I function a hell of a lot better with some solid evidence to work with, and in this case, I honestly didn't see the harm. I'm actually fairly certain that the names and stories of the Elders we're playing are not indicative of in-game powers in any obvious sense.

In any case, I think the Elders as a group can trust Daganev, Xenthos, Sakana, Requiem and Serella. That's more important than you think, especially in the case of Daganev. (Silvanus... I dunno. I don't think he meant to reveal that about himself.) Fain, Raezon, and Morgfyre didn't turn up, so I'd say that anyone who turns them up with a rolecop ability has reason to lynch them without reservation.

As for why people aren't voting for me over the massclaim thing, I would guess that I'm slated for a nightkill presently, and nobody wants a vote sitting on me when I turn up dead tomorrow morning. Shamarah's got a bad reason for going after Requiem (and seems unusually irritated about the whole thing,) Revan's bandwagoning, and Lorick's blowing with the wind.

Um. About Lorick. He seems to be totally lost right now, which I don't think is out of character. But if he suddenly becomes super-focused tomorrow (i.e. after he's potentially had a chance to talk to any scum buddies) you need to lynch him. Big time.

*wave Sakana*
Lorick2008-08-02 02:22:50
....I've changed my vote once. For roughly an hour...

Hardly blowing in the wind.
Rika2008-08-02 02:24:33
Vote count!

Revan - 7 (shadow, Thul, okieSakana, daganev, Shou, Saaga, Silferras)
daganev - 3 (Shiri, Eldritch, Lorick)
requiem - 2 (Shamarah, Revan)
Silvanus - 1 (Bael)
Shamarah - 1 (Serella)
Lorick - 1 (requiem)
Thul - 1 (Xenthos)
Bael - 1 (Silvanus)

It's 11 to lynch.