Oh and I am a guy. I meant to put that in one of my last posts.

There was no question in my mind that you were a guy.

And it's bedtime. And you still are my WTF.

As far as me posting that much I work at a car dealership meaning I have long hours. (For the love of God I think I have posted to this fact 10000 times now.) Will go ahead and unvote thul also, if you read the post I made before voting for you, I did explain why I did, just not in the same post as the vote. Am going to hold off on my vote for a bit so I can actually read some of these posts instead of just skimming pages.

Honestly,

I'd lynch Orclachmar. From a purist point of view, he does bear the excorbotio and has soulless essence within him. But, maybe it could be different, maybe he's a surviver or something role.

Unvote: Bael
Vote: OkieSakana

Did he roleclaim anywhere? As somebody said, he seems the most inconsistent and it's useless having my vote on Bael for now, but Bael is my number two.

FoS: Bael

I be watching you.

I am going to bed.

I'm looking at this: (its the last vote when people were just going off of gut feelings, and so bandwagoning was very possible)

Revan - 7 (shadow, Thul, okieSakana, daganev, Shou, Saaga, Silferras)
Thul - 7 (Xenthos, Shiri, Lorick, Revan, Shayle, Arix, Zetsu)

and looking at this:

Who posted in: Mafia: Elder Wars Redux
Poster Posts
Lorick 59
Shiri 43
okieSakana 38
Xenthos 36
daganev 35
requiem dot exe 29
Arix 28
Thul 27
Revan 20
shadow 19

Close window & open topic

Removing all the talkative people we have: (really, the mod shouldn't be talking more than you... )

rika 19
Saaga 16
Shou 16
Silferras 12
Shayle 12
Archer2 11 + Shamarah 5
Silvanus 10
Bael 9
Serella 7
Zetsu 6
Eldritch Ex Machina 6


Ok, now I'm going to make two lists. One of the people who are on the bandwagon, but talk less than Rika, and then 2, those who are not on the bandwagon and talk less than rika.

People who are not on the bandwagon we have:

Archer2 11 + Shamarah 5
Silvanus 10
Bael 9
Serella 7
Eldritch Ex Machina 6

People on the bandwagon:

Saaga 16
Shou 16
Silferras 12
Shayle 12
Zetsu 6

Personally, I'm not sure which group is more scummy.

Also, what is the current vote count?

Personally, I find Saaga, Shou, and Silferras to be the most scummy. (zetsu explained his low post count, and Shayle has been vocally thoughtful about her actual votes)

Shou registers highest on the scumdar of the 3 you listed.

Actually wait, Saaga too...hrm. Nm, not really that clear after all.

Still not convinced by Thul, but it looks like people are forgetting about him, so I guess let's pick one of the quieter ones. Meh.

Saaga or Shou?, I can't tell. Shiri are you able to put up a case against either one of them? Or is it just a gut feeling?

Gut feeling on Saaga. Mostly gut feeling on Shou but I remember his total random "I'm suspecting Shiri!" after I presented my reasoning against Thul earlier, which is kind of telling even if you believe Thul because even he admitted the reasoning was fairly sound and I'd just have to rely on his roleclaim being accurate even though it looks incompatible.

I don't see what's scummy about Silferras compared to the other two, is that a gut feeling on your end?

Silferras was just gut feeling based on the analysis I was showing. But after reading her posts again, I see she is just quite, but is actually giving reasons.

I also noticed that Shadow suspected Saaga some time ago, (page 17).

so I'm going to vote Saaga

I think at least part of it really is the complete "WTF mate?" effect. People aren't really sure how to react, and he's so random that he's bound to hit scummy indicators at least some of the time. For me it was the "blub blub/I don't know anything about the roles" and the "Revan needs a new necktie, but I'm so close to certain that he's a townie that lynching someone unrelated will make it 100%."


Ah, now that you mention it I feel like I vaguely knew this already. So yeah, that makes sense. But I got no end of grief for actually having a life during the last game, so...neener.

@Sakana: Sorry about that. I just kinda picked a random gender. When I was actually re-reading the thread later and was paying attention to everyone else's posts, I noticed that a couple people apparently went to your profile. So this was just me being unobservant.

Also, lurking is a bad idea. It lets the town win games they had no business winning... Just advice against the future M.O.

Vote count!

okieSakana - 4 (Xenthos, requiem, Archer, Silvanus)
Thul - 3 (Shiri, Revan, Saaga)
requiem - 3 (okieSakana, Lorick, Bael)
Saaga - 2 (shadow, daganev)
Archer - 1 (Serella)
daganev - 1 (Eldritch)

It is 11 to lynch!!!!1!!!1!11! And now I'm off. G'night!

Think he claimed to be Trillillial (did I miss an l somewhere?)

Anyhow, you people POST TOO GODDAMN MUCH. And my vote stays on Saaga for now as well.. Also someone remember if she roleclaimed? (don't make me search through 20+ pages please *weep*)

All right... I never post that much on the forums in the first place, so the post count argument against me doesn't offer an accurate assessment

I've been watching how the votes are stacking up and changing moreso then people's reasons (because they just confuse me). I'm erasing my previous suspects and will join in to Vote Saaga (<3 Saaga) because I do get the feeling she's being a little suspiciously elusive (no she didn't roleclaim yet either). Won't raise any more fingers at the moment.

It's not just the fact that your'e posting less than normal, it's that you're not posting enough.

Anyway, what do you have to say for yourself about your earlier suspicion of me for reasoning even the accusee accepted was valid?

Just to make sure I understand you correctly. You are purposefully joining bandwagons because you don't want to bother understanding what people are trying to say?

Also, why then are you voting for saaga and not Okie?

But, I meant that I was posting within my normal post count Or maybe you guys are posting too much to make us look bad. Suspicious!

In all seriousness... hmm, I can't really remember clearly what my reasonings were earlier, but it had to do with Thul and you. I have been fairly certain he wasn't scum. If he gave credit to your claim afterwards I might've missed that. Oops!

To Daganev: I'm not randomly joining bandwagons (except the first which I used a number generator for). My suspicions on Saaga began a few pages back already when shadow made a comment. However, as much as Okie was acting erratic and I had my eye on him, right now I don't think he is scum at all. And don't worry I'm not disregarding any posts... it's just that following the vote counts is helpful for me =)

I tend to be rather quiet on the whole, and probably have more posts in mafia games than I ever had on the forums.

That being said, I try to make my posts qualitative rather than quantitative. Fluffing posts I have problems making, especially if I have nothing to say. At the moment, what I want to say is that despite nameclaiming, I don't really trust okieSakana - the constant assertions that he's a newb and knows nothing is starting to grate on my nerves after a while, and it could either be true or a smokescreen to hide scumminess. For the latter, he should obviously be lynched, and for the former.. I don't know how much this will help the town. We'll see.

It might also be time to pay more attention to those who seem to just follow bandwagons, with sketchy or non-existant reasoning. Saaga, Shou, and Bael come to mind.

In any case, I'm off to bed. I might not be around for the next 20-48 hours, depending on whether I stay over in school for the orientation, so if I'm quiet..