Mafia: Elder Wars Redux

by Rika

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Unknown2008-08-05 00:27:36
Also, okie, what's up with the stupid bubble stuff? Is that part of your role?
Shiri2008-08-05 00:35:40
QUOTE(Thul @ Aug 4 2008, 04:21 PM) 540811
I'm assuming people are going over roleclaims in the same sort of anal-retentive detail that I do. dry.gif Some games that works, some games it doesn't. Shamarah didn't do the copy-paste thing with the roles in My Little Pony, so Celina would've had an easier time of it. Also, I have vague suspicions that Silvanus's claim isn't actually legit... bit too obscure.

I'm not afraid of an investigation. The obvious chain of progression for an investigator at this point would involve me and Revan... but then I've no means of guaranteeing that that's how it'll end up. If we don't hear anything for a few days about someone... it's no guarantee, but I would consider it a great indicator that I'm clean. Same with Revan or Lorick. Don't think anyone else has come up as extremely questionable.

Silferras. Not Sarrasri. >_< Forestal females with names that start with S and have the same number of letters. That's my excuse. Sorry. And yes, I take forever to write stuff.


Wanted to post this yesterday, but internet spazzed:

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I don't understand what you're talking about with the copy paste thing and Shamarah doing it or not. Please elaborate.
As for Silvanus, maybe you shouldn't believe it, but I don't think "being obscure" is a good reason here, Rika has done her research on the histories even before this game.

As for the investigator stuff, that's what I'd guess. If an investigator scries you and you ARE scum, they should announce it immediately, we'll kill you to check, and if we're right we got a scum and a (mostly) proven cop, and if we're wrong we're down one scum (i.e the "cop" on day 3) and a night-kill resistant random.

Shayle: I'd like to keep my vote on Thul too because I am just way too suspicious of this stuff, but everyone jumped off the bandwagon so frankly I'm just going to have to help get rid of Shou or someone else and be done with it. Revoting Thul will only make it take longer, probably. Guh.

Anyway, going to bed now, I already had to frickin' reset the computer so it'd let me post (IE has been spazzing to hell lately, the ONLY site it would let me view was forums, and then only in this browser window, new ones just got errors...)


Looks like the bandwagon has moved onto Saaga though, and she's got 9 votes so I'll leave her the chance to roleclaim.
Unknown2008-08-05 00:37:17
I think it's just a personal.. idiosyncrasy on his part, he did explain that he uh, liked fish and that was what he perceived as fish noises, though I get the overwhelming impression that okieSakana is female every time he does that.

Otherwise, nothing much to add, just waiting on Saaga's response. Once we finally hit night, though, investigating Thul or Shou ought to tell us where to turn next.

With Archer2's vote, that's Saaga at 9, with the only person who hasn't voted being Eldritch.
Daganev2008-08-05 00:40:43
Isn't it normally best for the investigator to wait until day 3 before they announce the scum person? i.e so patterns can be discerned and the like?
Shiri2008-08-05 00:42:27
QUOTE(daganev @ Aug 5 2008, 01:40 AM) 540980
Isn't it normally best for the investigator to wait until day 3 before they announce the scum person? i.e so patterns can be discerned and the like?

I don't know. I guess that is another option but every day they don't announce it, they have a chance of dying and all the info they gathered whiffing. If they find a scum, they can be "proven" and the doctor will know to protect them so they have a much better chance of catching the remaining scum until the doctor dies.
Unknown2008-08-05 00:43:57
Not that I'd mind being investigated, but I thought the original plan was to do either Lorick or Revan since that could tell us a lot of info?

I also feel bad if we lynch Saaga without her saying anything, despite having been one of the first to jump on her... though time is running out >.>
Unknown2008-08-05 00:45:47
QUOTE(Shou @ Aug 4 2008, 08:43 PM) 540985
Not that I'd mind being investigated, but I thought the original plan was to do either Lorick or Revan since that could tell us a lot of info?

I also feel bad if we lynch Saaga without her saying anything, despite having been one of the first to jump on her... though time is running out >.>


I would feel more bad about it, except she has been about the forums previously, so she could have very well just popped on here to throw in a post. It would be different if she hadn't been about *at all*, but, she has been, so, I'm hoping she'll stick her head in and save her butt.

She's at 9/11. Calling it close.
Daganev2008-08-05 00:46:04
QUOTE(Shiri @ Aug 4 2008, 05:42 PM) 540982
I don't know. I guess that is another option but every day they don't announce it, they have a chance of dying and all the info they gathered whiffing. If they find a scum, they can be "proven" and the doctor will know to protect them so they have a much better chance of catching the remaining scum until the doctor dies.



Ah right, the doctor.

Last game the doctor got killed before the investigator was known, so I forgot about that piece.
Shiri2008-08-05 00:46:58
QUOTE(Shou @ Aug 5 2008, 01:43 AM) 540985
Not that I'd mind being investigated, but I thought the original plan was to do either Lorick or Revan since that could tell us a lot of info?

I also feel bad if we lynch Saaga without her saying anything, despite having been one of the first to jump on her... though time is running out >.>


If you're talking about what I was saying, it seems like we should investigate Thul, not Revan/Lorick. The chances of someone double-bluffing us on the roleclaim seem higher than the chance of two scum outing each other by claiming mason, such that if it whiffs both die instead of just one.

As for Saaga, just leave her on 9 votes for a while. If she responds in time, great. If not, well, it'll draw out day 1 even more annoyingly but she'll die and oh well.
Unknown2008-08-05 00:47:15
I'm not suggesting that he or she comes out with the information straight away, just that it would be nice to get a read on either/both. That said, if they were to turn up clean, there would be no reason for the investigator to reveal themselves at all.
Shiri2008-08-05 00:47:55
QUOTE(daganev @ Aug 5 2008, 01:46 AM) 540988
Ah right, the doctor.

Last game the doctor got killed before the investigator was known, so I forgot about that piece.


Ok. So with that in mind would you agree that calling the scum immediately would be wiser?
Daganev2008-08-05 00:54:32
yep
Thul2008-08-05 01:11:00
Might actually depend on how many nightkills show up tomorrow morning... If first night pulls a successful draw and there's only one nightkill, you might be able to get away with hunting around for a second target. Risky, though. Three nightkills... scream as soon as you find someone.

Don't even have a clue what we're dealing with in terms of numbers, though... five sound like a good total in a 20 man game? Six, maybe?

Uh. Rika, give Saaga a modpoke, please? Death through inactivity would be a really lame way to go.
Shiri2008-08-05 01:16:24
QUOTE(Thul @ Aug 5 2008, 02:11 AM) 541004
Might actually depend on how many nightkills show up tomorrow morning... If first night pulls a successful draw and there's only one nightkill, you might be able to get away with hunting around for a second target. Risky, though. Three nightkills... scream as soon as you find someone.

Don't even have a clue what we're dealing with in terms of numbers, though... five sound like a good total in a 20 man game? Six, maybe?

Uh. Rika, give Saaga a modpoke, please? Death through inactivity would be a really lame way to go.

I don't think it gets as high as 5, it caps at like 4 for a game this size.

However, it's entirely possible we have a cult and Rika said something about the 12 apparently. Or there could be a smaller 1-2 man scum group that works with the other scum group but doesn't know who they are so they might snipe them by accident...this is all just speculation based on the flavour though, ehhh.
Thul2008-08-05 01:33:39
Cult that wins if it gets to 12? confused.gif No, that wouldn't happen... not without a truly ridiculous amount of resurrection. Stupid ridiculous.

I really hope there isn't a cult. sleep.gif Mafioso don't spawn silently in the night as fast as you can kill them, and dammit, if someone tries to target me for a cult, I want to blow them up. And their families.

We'll know if there's a suspicious absence of deaths tomorrow... we need to start assuming people have been subverted, in that case. I think it's a safe assumption that mafia won't need to activate charge abilities to get things going, like last game... otherwise this game'll take until September.

I'm going to be amazed if we don't turn up with a Soulless SK, though.
Bael2008-08-05 01:44:18
Comeon Saaga, post! I really don't want to change my vote to you without having to hear what you have to say first.
Unknown2008-08-05 01:48:17
QUOTE(Bael @ Aug 5 2008, 01:44 AM) 541013
Comeon Saaga, post! I really don't want to change my vote to you without having to hear what you have to say first.

Yeah, I wish she would say something already. :/

Ninja-lynching sux, but we may have to do it if she persists in her abscentia.
Unknown2008-08-05 01:49:51
I simply like saying blub ^.^
Rika2008-08-05 04:06:11
Not going to give another vote count. You guys are pretty up to date on that anyway. Saaga told me she may be a bit busy, though I do not know how much that means. Either way, she is two votes from a lynch.
Rika2008-08-05 08:15:26
This is a modprod for you all to post more. dry.gif