Revan2008-07-31 16:14:29
No no, you misunderstand. The argument is legitimate whether or not it was auto-generated.
Saaga2008-07-31 16:17:29
I don't trust auto-generated rants, legitimate arguments or not.
Unknown2008-07-31 16:19:06
Spectator: ...lol
Thul2008-07-31 16:21:00
Stop.
Hold off for right now, we've got 20 people in this game, half of which have yet to even check in. I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary from Daganev, and starting a train on someone who's already been proven a spectacularly easy target, right now, just gives room for a lot of people to get by with lurking.
Dag, you might want to reconsider your abrasive playstyle at some point in the future. It might keep you from ending up in this position on a regular basis.
Hold off for right now, we've got 20 people in this game, half of which have yet to even check in. I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary from Daganev, and starting a train on someone who's already been proven a spectacularly easy target, right now, just gives room for a lot of people to get by with lurking.
Dag, you might want to reconsider your abrasive playstyle at some point in the future. It might keep you from ending up in this position on a regular basis.
Daganev2008-07-31 16:22:32
QUOTE(Thul @ Jul 31 2008, 09:21 AM) 539112
Stop.
Hold off for right now, we've got 20 people in this game, half of which have yet to even check in. I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary from Daganev, and starting a train on someone who's already been proven a spectacularly easy target, right now, just gives room for a lot of people to get by with lurking.
Dag, you might want to reconsider your abrasive playstyle at some point in the future. It might keep you from ending up in this position on a regular basis.
Hold off for right now, we've got 20 people in this game, half of which have yet to even check in. I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary from Daganev, and starting a train on someone who's already been proven a spectacularly easy target, right now, just gives room for a lot of people to get by with lurking.
Dag, you might want to reconsider your abrasive playstyle at some point in the future. It might keep you from ending up in this position on a regular basis.
consider it reconsidered.
Unknown2008-07-31 16:24:48
QUOTE(daganev @ Jul 31 2008, 10:59 AM) 539099
Am I supposed to be voting for Thul because he fell for Xenthos's tricks twice last game?
Is that what mafia is about?
As I am the one that sparked this, I suppose I should respond to it. Frankly, it's the first day. People are trying to make good decisions, but there's a dearth of information. I don't have a problem with people basing their voting decisions off of "Crap, I don't know, so I'll take a shot in the dark" or off of stated logic. It's not meant to be a blow to your personality either.Is that what mafia is about?
This is the first mafia game I've participated in, and Shiri basically linked me to good information that I find handy because I'm not familiar with all the standard roles or rules and what have you. It's also my understanding that Shiri has been lynched very early on in most of the mafia games, so combined with the general goodwill I have for Shiri concerning providing me with the actual rules, Shiri's providing them on other mafia games consistently, and your attempt to use that as a logical reason to lynch Shiri when the logic was flawed made me think you were being destructively paranoid. There's nothing better to go off of on first day, so that's what I'm going with right now, though Revan's auto-ranty thing borders close.
Unknown2008-07-31 16:26:55
Yeah, and while paranoia might be all well and good with sufficient backup, it's just not effective if you cry wolf too many times.
Unknown2008-07-31 16:29:21
Was responding to Thul's post, but I was too slow, apparently.
As Shiri mentioned and Eldritch pointed out, being too helpful all the time can be as scummy or as indicative of nothing as being constantly paranoid, depending on how you look at it.
As Shiri mentioned and Eldritch pointed out, being too helpful all the time can be as scummy or as indicative of nothing as being constantly paranoid, depending on how you look at it.
Unknown2008-07-31 16:29:29
QUOTE(Thul @ Jul 31 2008, 11:21 AM) 539112
Stop.
Hold off for right now, we've got 20 people in this game, half of which have yet to even check in. I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary from Daganev, and starting a train on someone who's already been proven a spectacularly easy target, right now, just gives room for a lot of people to get by with lurking.
Dag, you might want to reconsider your abrasive playstyle at some point in the future. It might keep you from ending up in this position on a regular basis.
Serves me right for taking so long to finish my post that I didn't see this. I'll wait and am considering dropping my vote on Daganev considering that he did drop his vote on Shiri over the faulty logic and said he'd try to abstain from embarking on that kind of logic in the future.Hold off for right now, we've got 20 people in this game, half of which have yet to even check in. I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary from Daganev, and starting a train on someone who's already been proven a spectacularly easy target, right now, just gives room for a lot of people to get by with lurking.
Dag, you might want to reconsider your abrasive playstyle at some point in the future. It might keep you from ending up in this position on a regular basis.
Xenthos2008-07-31 16:34:39
QUOTE(Thul @ Jul 31 2008, 12:21 PM) 539112
Stop.
Vote: Thul
Just because you're prone to being led by the nose. Sorry!
That, and Daganev is... Daganev. I'm not really sure about this "take him out first every game thing" that some of you have going.
Unknown2008-07-31 16:44:37
The dependence on previous games and playing styles are pretty much because we're all groping in the dark on Day 1, I think, rather than any personal 'thing' against any particular player. Without anything to fall back on, people tend to try to eliminate the perceived threats first, whether from current or prior experience. Since we have nothing much currently..
Thul2008-07-31 16:56:37
If we're going by what we're prone to, we should whip out the battleaxe and kill Xenthos right away. He's been scum in like 4 out of 5 games now.
Really, we need to hear from everyone before we do much of anything. My personal sentiment is to give it a day or so, and then go after the person who's posted least... but then I get irritated by lurkers.
Really, we need to hear from everyone before we do much of anything. My personal sentiment is to give it a day or so, and then go after the person who's posted least... but then I get irritated by lurkers.
Daganev2008-07-31 17:06:40
In a game of this size, lurkers really make it hard for the game to continue.
Especially since the game needs so many votes to progress.
Understandable, but people have used this sort of logic on Arix and others many times. And they often do it throughout the game, not just on day 1. I wanted to know if this game is going to be played the same way or not.
I'm going to move my vote to historical lurkers, just to inspire them to talk more.
Vote Bael
Especially since the game needs so many votes to progress.
QUOTE(Silferras @ Jul 31 2008, 09:44 AM) 539121
The dependence on previous games and playing styles are pretty much because we're all groping in the dark on Day 1, I think, rather than any personal 'thing' against any particular player. Without anything to fall back on, people tend to try to eliminate the perceived threats first, whether from current or prior experience. Since we have nothing much currently..
Understandable, but people have used this sort of logic on Arix and others many times. And they often do it throughout the game, not just on day 1. I wanted to know if this game is going to be played the same way or not.
I'm going to move my vote to historical lurkers, just to inspire them to talk more.
QUOTE
Here are your random numbers:
20 Timestamp: 2008-07-31 17:05:37 UTC
20 Timestamp: 2008-07-31 17:05:37 UTC
Vote Bael
Xenthos2008-07-31 17:06:53
QUOTE(Thul @ Jul 31 2008, 12:56 PM) 539122
If we're going by what we're prone to, we should whip out the battleaxe and kill Xenthos right away. He's been scum in like 4 out of 5 games now.
Really, we need to hear from everyone before we do much of anything. My personal sentiment is to give it a day or so, and then go after the person who's posted least... but then I get irritated by lurkers.
Really, we need to hear from everyone before we do much of anything. My personal sentiment is to give it a day or so, and then go after the person who's posted least... but then I get irritated by lurkers.
Hey, that's random! ... and I don't think it is quite that high...
Revan2008-07-31 17:08:53
QUOTE(daganev @ Jul 31 2008, 01:06 PM) 539124
I'm going to move my vote to historical lurkers, just to inspire them to talk more.
Vote Bael
Vote Bael
wth? what does that quote have anything to do with... You know what, nevermind. This inane behavior simply supports my auto-generated argument.
Daganev2008-07-31 17:09:05
hmm, that was wierd...
I initially wrote "I'm going to move my vote to historical lurkers, just to inspire them to talk more."
But then realized how stupid that thinking is, and replaced it with:
"random vote for day one"
but it didn't get replaced... odd.
I initially wrote "I'm going to move my vote to historical lurkers, just to inspire them to talk more."
But then realized how stupid that thinking is, and replaced it with:
"random vote for day one"
but it didn't get replaced... odd.
Daganev2008-07-31 17:09:50
gah, and ninjaed by revan... *sigh*
Lorick2008-07-31 17:21:42
Unvote: Shiri
For calling Lolrick last game for waaay too long.
Vote: Daganev
For calling Lolrick last game for waaay too long.
Vote: Daganev
Xenthos2008-07-31 17:24:29
QUOTE(Lorick @ Jul 31 2008, 01:21 PM) 539131
Unvote: Shiri
For calling Lolrick last game for waaay too long.
Vote: Daganev
For calling Lolrick last game for waaay too long.
Vote: Daganev
Why was he calling Lolrick?
Lorick2008-07-31 17:25:53
Calling me Lolrick I mean.