Lorick2008-08-09 09:54:31
Seems like we have limited kill conditions to compensate. We don't seem to be having "You may kill one person in the night" sure shots, but things like "You have a 60% chance to kill your target". It could be we are just lucky, I don't know. It could be they have been targetting people with immunities, I don't know. I'm am however expecting this slow pace of nightkills will suddenly pick up when the %s don't go our way.
Shiri2008-08-09 09:55:29
Honestly, I'm not sure. The scum could either go for proven townies other than me and Thul (for obvious reasons), in the hopes of shrinking the townie voting bloc, or they could lash out at randoms in hopes of hitting the others...EXCEPT that now any of the Fates might be night-kill immune. They've also got to find the doctor keeping me alive, so that's another reason to go for randoms, and if I'm right and there's only one group with a kill, they'll know they can't rely on the other group to do it for them.
Unknown2008-08-09 09:59:15
QUOTE(Shiri @ Aug 9 2008, 11:21 AM) 543031
I was going to but I was more worried about Xen due to AESYRA'S bad timing. Hmph.
IT'S NOT MY FAULT YOU BLOODY FOX!!!
PS: You're shedding again.
Shiri2008-08-09 10:00:11
QUOTE(shadow @ Aug 9 2008, 10:59 AM) 543058
IT'S NOT MY FAULT YOU BLOODY FOX!!!
PS: You're shedding again.
PS: You're shedding again.
^--- shedding
<--- giant firefly/ant
Arix2008-08-09 10:01:15
Spectator: LOLNEJIISHEDS!!!!^___^!!!!
carry on
carry on
Unknown2008-08-09 12:02:03
This is the most awsome mafia game evar! My mind is exploding with paranoia! I have a few concrete townies to trust some Dubious masons a dubious Requiem and a bunch of lurkers and people who haven't brought any big suspicions upon themselves. I however am wary of the person who dissappeared on day 2 came back day3 and If were lucky that person will dissappear to do more research on day 4. I am also mighty suspicious of shou from all the earlier bush beating but not enough to throw a vote down yet. I need some thinking time. The double vote trap in my mind has to be one of the last 3-4 to vote any earlier is to unlikely for me to fathom. I personally would like to see thuls thoughts on all this. I shall draw my vote based on shiri's end logic or thuls which ever one makes the best sense in my mind.
Lorick2008-08-09 13:02:31
Well, listening to others is the point of the game, but don't forget to think for yourself. Otherwise, all we have is just giant bandwagon trains, and I'll be honest, the mafia tends to follow the trends of certain individuals because they themselves don't have the voting power to acquire a lynch alone.
Unknown2008-08-09 13:59:02
*poke Shiri* Silferras posted already, in a follow-up to my post!
However I'm not suspecting that she's part of the mafia... perhaps a Fate at worst.
Hmm and are double votes usually a townie power? I would've thought scum power, because it just seems so... scummy. I'm also assuming said person with power probably can't claim it, even if they were town. But anyway, those people who voted for Bael:
Silvanus, Shayle, Xenthos, Myrkr, requiem, daganev, Archer, Revan.
Err hmm... process of elimination didn't really work well. Anyone could have that power, and in my mind, be a possible scheming scum. Though I'm still most alarmed at the last two people there.
Why is no one voting yet! Vote Archer2 (reason already given 2 pages back) unless we come up with evidence that someone else is especially suspect.
And just an idea, but could it help to try and analyze the mafia's killing pattern to try to guess who might go next, or what their plan is?
However I'm not suspecting that she's part of the mafia... perhaps a Fate at worst.
Hmm and are double votes usually a townie power? I would've thought scum power, because it just seems so... scummy. I'm also assuming said person with power probably can't claim it, even if they were town. But anyway, those people who voted for Bael:
Err hmm... process of elimination didn't really work well. Anyone could have that power, and in my mind, be a possible scheming scum. Though I'm still most alarmed at the last two people there.
Why is no one voting yet! Vote Archer2 (reason already given 2 pages back) unless we come up with evidence that someone else is especially suspect.
And just an idea, but could it help to try and analyze the mafia's killing pattern to try to guess who might go next, or what their plan is?
Shiri2008-08-09 14:05:20
The person with the double vote CAN claim it, and yes they are usually town, but they might not consider that they have a reason to yet.
Analysing the mafia's killing pattern is dumb because they'll just...pick someone other than the one we choose.
Analysing the mafia's killing pattern is dumb because they'll just...pick someone other than the one we choose.
Unknown2008-08-09 15:13:18
Is everyone going to try to kill me again if I suggest that we finish the nameclaim? We have incomplete information, and for the most part no one seems to doubt any of the available names we have. I still think Lorick needs investigating, but I am starting to feel less suspicious. I just don't have any other hunches to work off of anymore.
NO ONE DO IT YET!
^------Wait until I hear from a few people.
NO ONE DO IT YET!
^------Wait until I hear from a few people.
Shiri2008-08-09 15:28:47
QUOTE(requiem dot exe @ Aug 9 2008, 04:13 PM) 543120
Is everyone going to try to kill me again if I suggest that we finish the nameclaim? We have incomplete information, and for the most part no one seems to doubt any of the available names we have. I still think Lorick needs investigating, but I am starting to feel less suspicious. I just don't have any other hunches to work off of anymore.
NO ONE DO IT YET!
^------Wait until I hear from a few people.
NO ONE DO IT YET!
^------Wait until I hear from a few people.
Lorick may well need investigating.
As for you, for want of any better leads, I think I want to know more about you and your role as Orclach. You might be one of the evil ones, it's very hard for me to tell given the histories and I keep feeling indecisive about it.
And who was pressuring EEM earlier? Was it JUST Daganev? No one's offered any explanation so far.
Unknown2008-08-09 16:20:27
Hm, I'm thinking the Fates don't actually have a nightkill, as we've yet to see two deaths in one night. Which would also lead to the conclusion that (unless the Traitors continually tried to kill the Fates) that Saaga was the only Soulless. It could also just be coincidences and such though.
Anyway, for now my vote is Vote: Eldritch. I would also like to hear more from Dag about his role, because it seems dubious.
Anyway, for now my vote is Vote: Eldritch. I would also like to hear more from Dag about his role, because it seems dubious.
Unknown2008-08-09 16:27:38
Who did okie claim to be again, and with whom? I can't remember, but I may want to take a closer look at that.
Xenthos2008-08-09 16:43:05
QUOTE(Shiri @ Aug 9 2008, 05:05 AM) 543025
Psh, not MY fault you weren't paying attention! And Xenthos -said- you were against claiming. Too bad.
But I told you! You could have just trusted me. That was, indeed, your fault.
Unknown2008-08-09 17:09:23
Yes, it IS Nejii's fault. -hmph-
Anyhow, can we get a post again, listing who claimed what yadda yadda?
Anyhow, can we get a post again, listing who claimed what yadda yadda?
Unknown2008-08-09 17:16:20
Thul made a post to that effect, but I couldn't find it 
Xenthos2008-08-09 17:23:31
This one, you mean?
Updated list:
Shiri (Keph) (Confirmed)
Thul (Maylea) (Confirmed by Shiri, who was confirmed by death...)
Silvanus (Lantra) (Confirmed claim of ability)
Xenthos (Tae) (Confirmed by Shiri, who was confirmed by death...)
Shadow (Bollikin) (Confirmed by Xenthos)
Then uncomfirmed claims:
Requiem (Orlachmar? Good/Bad?) ('Confirmed' as Orlachmar by 'Xyl,' who is not yet confirmed.)
Daganev (Crumkane?)
Serella (Xyl? One-shot chance to do research at Xion?)
OkieSakana (Trillilial?)
Lorick (Amberle?)
Revan (Meridian?)
Shou (Eventru, w/ posting restriction, rendering him unable to claim?)
People without information:
Silferras
Myrkr
Archer2
Shayle
Eldritch Ex Machina
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Aug 7 2008, 03:15 AM) 541887
I've gone through and made a list of the claims we have so far.
First, the ones who have claimed with some game-mechanic backing to support it:
Shiri (Keph) (Confirmed)
Thul (Maylea) (Confirmed by Shiri, who was confirmed by death...)
Silvanus (Lantra) (Confirmed claim of ability)
Then uncomfirmed claims:
Requiem (Orlachmar? Good/Bad?)
Daganev (Crumkane?)
Serella (Xyl? And missing? Possible cult recruitment?)
OkieSakana (Trillilial?)
Xenthos (Tae?)
Lorick (Amberle?)
Revan (Meridian?)
Shou (Posting restriction, rendering him unable to claim?)
People without information:
Zetsu
Silferras
shadow
Myrkr
Archer2
Shayle
Eldritch Ex Machina
Bael
So, I guess at this point: Go through the claims again, figure out if there's something that doesn't make sense, and put some pressure on it... or look for more information from those at the end. Personally, I have some concern about Orlachmar being "good" while also being the "Bearer of the Excoriwhatsidaisy," as that is (as far as we know) the method used by Fain and his coterie in their pursuit of power. And I still don't like OkieSakana.
First, the ones who have claimed with some game-mechanic backing to support it:
Shiri (Keph) (Confirmed)
Thul (Maylea) (Confirmed by Shiri, who was confirmed by death...)
Silvanus (Lantra) (Confirmed claim of ability)
Then uncomfirmed claims:
Requiem (Orlachmar? Good/Bad?)
Daganev (Crumkane?)
Serella (Xyl? And missing? Possible cult recruitment?)
OkieSakana (Trillilial?)
Xenthos (Tae?)
Lorick (Amberle?)
Revan (Meridian?)
Shou (Posting restriction, rendering him unable to claim?)
People without information:
Zetsu
Silferras
shadow
Myrkr
Archer2
Shayle
Eldritch Ex Machina
Bael
So, I guess at this point: Go through the claims again, figure out if there's something that doesn't make sense, and put some pressure on it... or look for more information from those at the end. Personally, I have some concern about Orlachmar being "good" while also being the "Bearer of the Excoriwhatsidaisy," as that is (as far as we know) the method used by Fain and his coterie in their pursuit of power. And I still don't like OkieSakana.
Updated list:
Shiri (Keph) (Confirmed)
Thul (Maylea) (Confirmed by Shiri, who was confirmed by death...)
Silvanus (Lantra) (Confirmed claim of ability)
Xenthos (Tae) (Confirmed by Shiri, who was confirmed by death...)
Shadow (Bollikin) (Confirmed by Xenthos)
Then uncomfirmed claims:
Requiem (Orlachmar? Good/Bad?) ('Confirmed' as Orlachmar by 'Xyl,' who is not yet confirmed.)
Daganev (Crumkane?)
Serella (Xyl? One-shot chance to do research at Xion?)
OkieSakana (Trillilial?)
Lorick (Amberle?)
Revan (Meridian?)
Shou (Eventru, w/ posting restriction, rendering him unable to claim?)
People without information:
Silferras
Myrkr
Archer2
Shayle
Eldritch Ex Machina
Unknown2008-08-09 17:39:17
QUOTE(Shiri @ Aug 9 2008, 11:28 AM) 543123
As for you, for want of any better leads, I think I want to know more about you and your role as Orclach. You might be one of the evil ones, it's very hard for me to tell given the histories and I keep feeling indecisive about it.
I am Orchlachmar, Bearer of the Excoroperditio. I fight for the freedom of the Elder Gods, and I'm anti-Twelve and anti-Soulless. Basically, I got some awesome juice that made me cool. I'm better than I used to be, and while my essence was affected, my spirit remains pure.
I have a couple of abilities, but since none of the above was really any more of a roleclaim than just saying my name, I'll hold out until more people request it.
The reason I was so concerned about my roleclaim originally was because I hadn't really read the histories, but I know that the orcs are generally bad/Tainted, so I assumed that the real Orchlachmar didn't fare so well after the Ex-Juice.
Is that enough for now, Shiri?
Xenthos2008-08-09 18:24:47
I'm willing to go with that for a little bit, given that we do seem to have a rather large segment of names "cleared out" now.
vote: Myrkr. I think I want to hear some more from this one.
vote: Myrkr. I think I want to hear some more from this one.
Unknown2008-08-09 18:39:22
Actually...I want Sakana to tell us a little more about his role, because I think he's lying. I think he was doing the *Blub Blub* stuff to say he was Meridian, until he realised that Revan was actually Meridian (apparently).
So, Unvote. Vote: Sakana.
So, Unvote. Vote: Sakana.
