Hi. Yes, Shayle's been quiet today. Shayle's refrigerator has died, and thusly, today was spent finding a new fridge and trying to keep food from spoiling... New one comes tomorrow between 10-2 (yay). I also chopped down a tree in my front yard today. Good stuff.

Anyway, I am tired, and I read over everything as best I could.

Yes, I agree something is funny with Myrkr's claim. No, I do not understand why Shou is defending her so vehemently.

Revan still appears slightly suspicious. Lorick as well. Quite honestly, it seems that a whole lot of people have been investigated so far, but no one I've been suspicious of. I can't really believe that we are really only on Day 2....

The fish guy still sends off all sorts of warning bells in my head. It's not just the gibberish he's posting, but the vibes he's giving off. And sorry, I just don't buy the "I'm a noob. I want to vote with the good guys!" stuff.

vote:OkieSakana

Is Shayle strapid? Cut down a tree?

Psh, I have a bunch of choices. The other one is Lorick/Revan. And any of these semi-quiet people could be scum, too.

Shayle: we're on day 3.

Bah. Yeah. Thanks. *sigh*

Sorry...it's been a really long day. I'm totally spent.

Except that Shou is the one who is claiming... being unable to talk about it. Though yes, the semi-quiet ones could be, at least they have the chance to claim something better than what these two are doing. :/ And if you do get the full role, if he's telling the truth we can figure out what exactly is going on with his claim (and the Fain bit? I would assume that would be useful if they're both legit).

I cut it down with an axe too. Was awesome.

Proper count!
Silferras - 4 (Myrkr, requiem, Archer, okieSakana)
Myrkr - 4 (Xenthos, Lorick, Shiri, Eldritch)
Archer - 2 (Shou, Silferras)
okieSakana - 1 (Shayle)

I don't know if I'll get those details. We'll have to see (or not, depending on who I investigate. I don't really want the scum to know for sure before tonight.)

A little belated, but didn't expect all that to spring up out of nowhere..

I agree that it's not exactly a perfect lynch record, given that we've yet to hit actual Traitor scum. It's probably pure luck so far that so few of the fallen are townies, which is probably unprecedented, but not hard to achieve with our current setup.. Unless we lynch or our vig manages to kill some Traitor scum soon, they can probably pick us off one by one while we pick off all their night threats (namely, our Soulless SK, unless there's more than one).

Also, to clarify, I'm not saying that Archer2 was necessarily signalling fellow scum to lynch earlier, but that he could have known about or had the double vote and wanted someone else to take the fall. I don't see how anyone would want to suggest putting someone on the one-away otherwise, because that's just inviting a possible ninja-lynch, and Archer2's probably played enough games to realise that. There's really no significant 'pressure' difference between being one vote or two votes away, from what I can see, just that the former practically screams for an 'accidental' lynch.

Don't forget req to Shiri.

First, I'm not really sure we even have a Vigilante. There hasn't been much evidence for it.

Second, to be honest, I was just pissed off at the lurkers. I didn't think about double-votes and even said we should probably hold off or -perhaps- put one more vote. Req warned off doing that and I agreed with him. I think Revan was just tired of the lurkers to, I guess.

A bunch of people now have "pairs" confirming them.

Lorick -> Revan
Serella -> Requiem (kind of)
Myrkr -> Shou

Silvanus -> Shiri -> Thul/Xenthos -> Aesyra

This being the case, by splitting investigations or lynches on these people, we can confirm the other in the pair as either town or scum. Just food for thought.

The reason I'm defending Myrkr is because her claim was accurate, so unless a scum could investigate and would willingly give out their findings to everyone, I can't think she's part of the mafia. Plus it explains why Myrkr has been defending me this whole time (I didn't realize until she role claimed!)

So Shiri, you can use your powers on those that were mentioned before, or waste it on either me or Myrkr (though if you must do one of us in the end, better to check her to confirm both of us). Also, I've read on mafiascum.net that some scum roles allow the person to turn up innocent even when investigated. Have we taken this into account?

The nature of my investigation does not actually confirm anyone as innocent, but given the two scum roles revealed so far the name has been good enough to trust. This is why I'm leery of Orlachmar. Even if I scried him, all I'd get is that he's Orlachmar and maybe his ability. I don't get a c/p of their role PM or the "you win with the town" line - or conversely, a line saying "they're innocent/they're scum."

This being the case, I don't think an "innocent" ability would make much sense, though it theoretically COULD.

An investigate/lynch on Myrkr isn't actually a waste btw, it adds two scum OR two people to the "confirmed town" voting block.

So what more of Fain does Shou know than he lets on? I'm pretty curious about this, since it's our first lead on a Traitor, unless it's part of or the cause of Shou's supposed posting restriction.

Shayle I am going with the town because getting a big block on people is terrifyingly effiecient gets people to claim fast which makes the scum have to think fast or die fast. A game with sudden changes favors town as every change leaves room for a hole to be poked in a scums guise. I believe that I should be going off of atleast some one elses decent reasoning when I am failing to come by any good clues on my own where as your simply going off you vibe? I think that is strange and for that you have earned my vote. Unvote Silfferas Vote: Shayle

Going out tomorrow. Might not be back until about 9 PM EST, so, sorry ahead of time, vote's staying where it is, sorry Silferras.

Okay, I'm out, night all.

I just came back, and I am currently reading page 46. thoughts and comments to come soon.

Ok

vote Archer2

Here is my theory.

Shou is Eventru and has a "siblings" relatonship with Fain.

Shou knows who fain is, and is trying to tell us that Archer2 is Fain.

The reason Shou can't say anything is because he isn't allowed to reveal that he knows that Archer2 if Fain.

Why Archer2? Did I miss that post?