Mafia: Elder Wars Redux

by Rika

Back to The Real World.

Unknown2008-08-11 17:28:40
OK, so more proof since some of you still don't fully believe me. The first hint I tried to give out on day 1...

QUOTE(rika @ Aug 4 2008, 12:46 AM) 540648
Not too much has changed.

requiem - 3 (okieSakana, Lorick, Bael)
Saaga - 3 (shadow, daganev, Shou)
Shou - 2 (Archer, Shiri)
Thul - 2 (Revan, Saaga)
okieSakana - 2 (Xenthos, requiem)
Archer - 1 (Serella)
daganev - 1 (Eldritch)

It is 11 to lynch.



QUOTE(Shou @ Aug 4 2008, 01:25 AM) 540662
Anyway I'm heading to bed now. In case I'm lynched or nightkilled (which I suspect is a good possibility now) before I return, I'll just say... look at the bandwagon that ran over me.


Clearly I was making a reference to the mafia leader here.

Umm anyway I'm heading out for the next few hours now. I can't decide who might be the remaining mafia members, but a tingling feeling makes me think Serella and EEM are the last Fates sisters!
(also how come we haven't seen any Glom or Seren gods yet?)
Unknown2008-08-11 17:55:13
QUOTE(Shou @ Aug 11 2008, 01:28 PM) 544143
OK, so more proof since some of you still don't fully believe me. The first hint I tried to give out on day 1...
Clearly I was making a reference to the mafia leader here.

Umm anyway I'm heading out for the next few hours now. I can't decide who might be the remaining mafia members, but a tingling feeling makes me think Serella and EEM are the last Fates sisters!
(also how come we haven't seen any Glom or Seren gods yet?)


Didn't someone say they were Maylea?

Though, the lacking Seren and Glom Gods are a good inquiry...
Silvanus2008-08-11 18:16:04
Thul said he was.

Shiri confirmed it.
Thul2008-08-11 19:09:39
QUOTE(Silvanus @ Aug 11 2008, 01:16 PM) 544168
Thul said he was.

Shiri confirmed it.


And Serella (Xyl?) too, for whatever that's worth. Still bothered that the results of her field trip only came up with information that had already been volunteered.

But for what it's worth, yes, I am Maylea.

Uncertain about Shou's claim. Yeah, that's a possible explanation for his ability and behavior, but he's been so horribly vague all game long that I'm not ruling out this gambit as a wall of bull.

Shiri, you investigated Req, didn't you? The easy conclusion after seeing the Excoroperditio mentioned in Fain's role is to go after the Bearer of the Excoroperditio...
Daganev2008-08-11 19:32:10
QUOTE(Thul @ Aug 11 2008, 12:09 PM) 544188
Uncertain about Shou's claim. Yeah, that's a possible explanation for his ability and behavior, but he's been so horribly vague all game long that I'm not ruling out this gambit as a wall of bull.



Seriously? Can you explain his motive?
i.e. what is your alternate scenario?

Also Serella didn't really verify anything because she basically repeated word for word, posts that were written on the forums. i.e. the most she did was say "these statements are true".

However, she is suspciously quite today. Why are all the scum so quite!?
Unknown2008-08-11 19:35:36
QUOTE(daganev @ Aug 11 2008, 03:32 PM) 544191
Seriously? Can you explain his motive?
i.e. what is your alternate scenario?

Also Serella didn't really verify anything because she basically repeated word for word, posts that were written on the forums. i.e. the most she did was say "these statements are true".

However, she is suspciously quite today. Why are all the scum so quite!?


Because if they were talkative we'd catch them already.
Daganev2008-08-11 19:35:52
Poster Posts
Shiri 174 - innocent
daganev 129
Lorick 124
Xenthos 91
Myrkr 86
okieSakana 82
requiem dot exe 72
Archer2 69 - scum
Shou 65
Thul 53
rika 50
shadow 46
Silferras 38
Arix 37
Revan 35
Silvanus 28
Eldritch Ex Machina 23
Shayle 23 - Scum
Saaga 16 - Scum
Bael 14 - Scum
Zetsu 12 - innocent
Serella 10
Shamarah 5 - Scum
Doman 2
casilu 1


Archer2 and Zetsu are the exceptions, but otherwise it's fustrating.

Also, I'd just like to point out to all those people who are going after EEM, that Archer2 was trying to get more info from EEM and myself a few posts before he died, so I'm thinking that since I'm an innocent, EEM is as well.
Daganev2008-08-11 19:37:16
QUOTE(Myrkr @ Aug 11 2008, 12:35 PM) 544192
Because if they were talkative we'd catch them already.


We only caught archer2 because of you and Shou, not because of anything Archer2 actually said.
Unknown2008-08-11 19:37:49
QUOTE(daganev @ Aug 11 2008, 07:37 PM) 544196
We only caught archer2 because of you and Shou, not because of anything Archer2 actually said.

*Haunt*censor.gif*Haunt*
Daganev2008-08-11 19:41:52
QUOTE(Serella @ Aug 8 2008, 03:57 PM) 542676
Hello everyone, I'm back! Thankfully I wasn't kidnapped by a Soulless or anything of that sort. My ability as Xyl is to RESEARCH ON XION. I can do this one time during the night, but the following day I won't be able to speak or do anything the dead can't do. I received the following unhelpful information from my research (thank you random info generator sleep.gif): Thul is Maylea, Bloom of Serenity and requiem is Orlachmar, Bearer of the Excoroperditio. Whether requiem is scum or not remains to be seen.

I will also be leaving for the beach in a few days, so feel free to find me a replacement.



Rika, did we ever get a replacement for Serella?
Unknown2008-08-11 21:58:53
Serrella has been awfully quiet. I have no wanton suspicions about this person I would merely like to force a quick role claim and decide from there if maybe I should swap over to some one else.
Shiri2008-08-12 00:45:32
Still no req; argh.

Still no Serella; argh.

Since I'm definitely more suspicious of Serella than any of the others, keep your vote on her even if she's replaced: it's not just her lurkiness, it's the dubiousness of her roleclaim given the information we already have.

And Lorick and Revan are going nuts on Shou there, that can't be a good sign.
Unknown2008-08-12 00:57:40
QUOTE(daganev @ Aug 11 2008, 02:35 PM) 544194
Poster Posts
Shiri 174 - innocent
daganev 129
Lorick 124
Xenthos 91
Myrkr 86
okieSakana 82
requiem dot exe 72
Archer2 69 - scum
Shou 65
Thul 53
rika 50
shadow 46
Silferras 38
Arix 37
Revan 35
Silvanus 28
Eldritch Ex Machina 23
Shayle 23 - Scum
Saaga 16 - Scum
Bael 14 - Scum
Zetsu 12 - innocent
Serella 10
Shamarah 5 - Scum
Doman 2
casilu 1
Archer2 and Zetsu are the exceptions, but otherwise it's fustrating.

Also, I'd just like to point out to all those people who are going after EEM, that Archer2 was trying to get more info from EEM and myself a few posts before he died, so I'm thinking that since I'm an innocent, EEM is as well.
For that matter, Bael was trying to get information on me too.

Anyway, I'm staying on Revan now. He and Lorick aren't even trying to hide being a voting block now. My intuition has had my scumometer sitting on Revan from the get go, and I'm really not sitting down on this one. They're too partnered. They're unconfirmed. I think Archer was a sacrifice as the lynch train had already left the station on that one. I also think one of them has the double vote and I don't much care for the possibility of a scum 3-from-lynch-to-death ninja. I also think Revan's "It's no big deal I put him 1 away" post is a blind against the double vote. It was the only post so close after that even tried to redirect suspicion. Furthermore their claims of my aggressive behavior and then blatantly going for the one-two together just smacks to me of hypocrisy. As far as I'm concerned, the two have huge, blaring red warning sirens and lights going on over their heads.
Unknown2008-08-12 00:58:18
By the way, I had a fantastic day in San Fran. I'll check on this periodically through the night and then again in the morning around 10 CST.
Daganev2008-08-12 01:55:44
I honestly just don't understand some people at this point.

Can someone explain why there is a rift of indecision on our part?
Revan2008-08-12 02:02:43
Ok, forget Shou for now, EEM has to go. It's the right thing to do, because he obviously doesn't have the town's best interests at heart. "They probably sacrificed a scum" is a horrible reason, and frankly, your attitude reeks of Scum. Since I, myself, am a confirmed townie (I feel at this point, since Shiri is too paranoid to confirm, I'll just confirm myself and lorick), this obviously means that EEM wishes to oust a known townie, and is thus scum. Tsk, bad EEm. Out you go.

Unvote
Vote: EEM
Thul2008-08-12 02:07:39
QUOTE(daganev @ Aug 11 2008, 02:32 PM) 544191
Seriously? Can you explain his motive?
i.e. what is your alternate scenario?

Also Serella didn't really verify anything because she basically repeated word for word, posts that were written on the forums. i.e. the most she did was say "these statements are true".

However, she is suspciously quite today. Why are all the scum so quite!?


As far as Shou's scenario goes... eh. I'm having to go with "scum desperately grasping for plausible answers for his roleclaim." If he's known all along who Fain was... well, it's been proven that he could vote for Archer. Looking over his early posts, it doesn't really seem like he made any sort of large effort to point us at him at all. Really, voting for him first every morning would've been a nice tip-off, but it doesn't even seem like he knows anything at all about Fain until Myrkr steps in for him. Also, there's a definite "probing the waters" vibe from his posts... he first only claims Celestian pantheon, before settling onto Eventru, and it was pointed out at the time that he could've been just making sure that he doesn't hit a duplicate.

Myrkr's ability claim is kinda suspect too... I don't think that there would be two different one-shot investigation abilities out there atop Shiri's uber-investigate (which has been fully confirmed for everyone to see.) Then again, I think Serella's claim of Xyl is highly suspect... ("RESEARCH ON XION" bothers me when I haven't seen any other ability that requires a particular activation phrase like that, and then she only gave out information that was already out there.) In any case, I can see both of them working together to come up with some semi-plausible bull story during a recent night, and if Shou turns up scum, Myrkr's next.

On review, it's fairly clear to me that whatever Shou's story is, knowing who Fain was from the beginning isn't it. And as such, Vote: Shou

Current order of priorities: Shou/Myrkr, Serella, Revan (someone please hit this man with a daykill)/Lorick, Sakana, Xenthos/shadow. Hooray for rampant collusion.
Thul2008-08-12 02:17:11
Uh. Actually, move Revan/Lorick up a slot, since they both seem to be in PANIC, PANIC, ANYONE BUT US mode.
Unknown2008-08-12 02:25:56
FYI, I've tried leaving clues on -both- day 1 and day 2 on who to vote for. I wouldn't vote for Archer/Fain without a good reason, and that reason didn't come until day 3. There's also a very clear reason I didn't claim to know who Fain was until he died, but I'm not going to repeat that anymore because it's just getting tiring.
Xenthos2008-08-12 02:26:04
/me is still waiting for Shiri to come up with the results...