I have had many problems with manse perms. Whatever I seem to do, enemies seem to be able to come in. I've tried something different:



I'm trying to keep out Magnagorans and enemies of Celest.

So can I get some people to test it for me? My manse is Ignis.

The people I would like to try are:

- Members of Magnagora who's not an enemy of Celest.
- Members of Glomdoring who's not an enemy of Celest.
- Members of Serenwilde who's an enemy to Celest.
- Members of Serenwilde who's not an enemy to Celest.

Also, how would I allow Rogues into my manse?

Except member of Magnagora
Except enemies of Celest

Should allow everyone except those two categories, including rogues. Unless you specify that they can't enter, they can.

I tried that... it blocked everybody

Hmm. I don't know how long ago you set up these perms, and how exactly the perm system works. But I entered your manse a few RL days ago, shopping. But if it's

Only allow:
Member of Celest
Member of Serenwilde
Member of Glomdoring

Except if they are an enemy of Celest.

Could that be read as: He does not satisfy any other permissions, but he is an enemy of Celest, so he's an exception and allowed through?


Edit: However

The Aetherplex Chamber.
portal enter ignis
You can't find an entrance to that here.

Shouldn't, it should read as he does satisfy one of the conditions but the exception prevents him from entering.

is the "if this condition is false, let them in" flag

I've done it this way for a while:

is not an enemy of the Righteous Principality of New Celest
except is a member of the Mighty Dominion of Magnagora

Though... it's hard to verify if it actually works but I've never seen an intruder in my home.

Esano's both enemy and Magnagoran so at least it's blocking him.

Here's the simple solution Arin.

Is not enemy of Celest AND is not member of Magnagora

Should let everybody in(Unless ands don't work, my manse is private so I let people in on a name-to-name basis

Ands don't work

You might try:

is NOT a member of Magnagora. <-- thus allowing all non-Magnagorans in.
EXCEPT enemies of Celest. <-- except those who are enemied to Celest.


What you want to avoid without question is using two NOT statements. These inevitably contradict each other and by default allow everyone in. (IE - if I use "is NOT Eventru", then everyone but Eventru can enter**, but if I add "is NOT Viravain", then Eventru, who is not Viravain, could get in anyway, and vice versa.)


** Perms not guaranteed to prevent God-entry. Use with caution.

I'm pretty sure it works now... so fingers cross!