Charune2008-08-16 03:30:25
Damage buffs generally all follow DMP and are weighted as such. Those that fall outside the DMP system are usually noted and are that way because of additional restrictions. For example, putre and numen both are not DMP - they are pure resistance. Fervor may or may not be the same way. I'm not sure offhand.
Desitrus2008-08-16 05:00:16
QUOTE(Charune @ Aug 15 2008, 10:30 PM) 546542
Damage buffs generally all follow DMP and are weighted as such. Those that fall outside the DMP system are usually noted and are that way because of additional restrictions. For example, putre and numen both are not DMP - they are pure resistance. Fervor may or may not be the same way. I'm not sure offhand.
I never use it to achieve those numbers because I don't want to be hit for that much in return.
Unknown2008-08-16 11:18:07
Nevermind then.
Shiri2008-08-16 11:20:49
Some damage buffs are calculated in the same terms as DMP - i.e the same ratios apply as in HELP DMP.
Xavius2008-08-16 16:29:22
QUOTE(Charune @ Aug 15 2008, 10:30 PM) 546542
Damage buffs generally all follow DMP and are weighted as such. Those that fall outside the DMP system are usually noted and are that way because of additional restrictions. For example, putre and numen both are not DMP - they are pure resistance. Fervor may or may not be the same way. I'm not sure offhand.
QUOTE(Shiri @ Aug 16 2008, 06:20 AM) 546668
Some damage buffs are calculated in the same terms as DMP - i.e the same ratios apply as in HELP DMP.
Not nearly enough of them to matter. Karma isn't. Favors aren't. Artifacts aren't. Weapon stat bonuses aren't. Sensitivity isn't. Omen isn't. Who's going to stack enough damage buffs to actually hit the scaling? We have fervor that might be, aggressive stance that might be, a bard song that might be...so maybe a paladin can test it?
EDIT: Or maybe a ninja can test it with a chain-wrapped fist, hard mod, and a bard song. That's still only two options.
Saaga2008-08-16 20:10:05
Vathael stumbles slowly in, as if held back by some invisible force.
5627h, 3432m, 3693e, 0p, 22886en, 15190w ekb-
Aison takes a long drag off her pipe.
5627h, 3432m, 3693e, 0p, 22886en, 15190w ekb-
Vathael carefully wipes all the poisons off of a broadsword with flame etchings.
5627h, 3432m, 3693e, 0p, 22886en, 15190w ekb-
Mariello bends down and traces trails in the water with his fingers. The waters sparkle with flecks of azure light.
5627h, 3432m, 3693e, 0p, 22886en, 15190w ekb-
With a powerful lunge, Vathael strikes at you with a broadsword with flame etchings. You are feebly struck in your right leg with the blade.
2828h, 3432m, 3693e, 0p, 22886en, 15190w ekb-
With a powerful lunge, Vathael strikes at you with a broadsword with flame etchings. Vathael strikes deep into your right foot, pinning it down with a broadsword with flame etchings. You involuntarily crumple to a crouch and can think of nothing but freeing your impaled foot.
PINRLEG ADDED
1139h, 3432m, 3693e, 0p, 22886en, 15190w ekb-
..Mm-mm. With splendors.
5627h, 3432m, 3693e, 0p, 22886en, 15190w ekb-
Aison takes a long drag off her pipe.
5627h, 3432m, 3693e, 0p, 22886en, 15190w ekb-
Vathael carefully wipes all the poisons off of a broadsword with flame etchings.
5627h, 3432m, 3693e, 0p, 22886en, 15190w ekb-
Mariello bends down and traces trails in the water with his fingers. The waters sparkle with flecks of azure light.
5627h, 3432m, 3693e, 0p, 22886en, 15190w ekb-
With a powerful lunge, Vathael strikes at you with a broadsword with flame etchings. You are feebly struck in your right leg with the blade.
2828h, 3432m, 3693e, 0p, 22886en, 15190w ekb-
With a powerful lunge, Vathael strikes at you with a broadsword with flame etchings. Vathael strikes deep into your right foot, pinning it down with a broadsword with flame etchings. You involuntarily crumple to a crouch and can think of nothing but freeing your impaled foot.
PINRLEG ADDED
1139h, 3432m, 3693e, 0p, 22886en, 15190w ekb-
..Mm-mm. With splendors.
Unknown2008-08-16 20:39:34
QUOTE
A cobalt blue hexagram shoots up from below.
It slams into you, knocking you to the ground.
stand
You plummet head first into the ground with a sickening crunch.
2492h, 3276m, 3090e, 10p, 15590en, 14660w ex-
Shikha eats a sparkleberry.
2492h, 3276m, 3090e, 10p, 15590en, 14660w ex-
Shikha reads a scroll.
2492h, 3276m, 3090e, 10p, 15590en, 14660w ex-
You stand straight up.
2492h, 3276m, 3090e, 10p, 15590en, 14660w ex-
You bleed 50 health.
2442h, 3276m, 3090e, 10p, 15590en, 14660w ex-
Thoros stumbles slowly in, as if held back by some invisible force.
2442h, 3276m, 3090e, 10p, 15590en, 14660w ex-
Shikha stumbles and grimaces, holding her head and her stomach as she suffers
the wrath of a war shrine of Terentia.
Thoros stumbles and grimaces, holding his head and his stomach as he suffers the
wrath of a war shrine of Terentia.
Malarious pales and cries out in ecstasy.
Malarious stops all movement, a stunned look on his face.
Malarious stumbles and grimaces, holding his head and his stomach as he suffers
the wrath of a war shrine of Terentia.
2442h, 3276m, 3090e, 10p, 15590en, 14660w ex-
Thoros points a stinging wasp brooch at the ground, and sparks fly out of it.
The sparks quickly fizzle out.
2442h, 3276m, 3090e, 10p, 15590en, 14660w ex-
Shikha whips a claymore of purified steel through the air in front of you, to no
effect.
Cleaving through your defenses, Shikha makes a slow deadly strike at your left
leg with a claymore of purified steel. Shikha powerfully strikes your left leg,
and blood fountains out in a thick spray.
688h, 3276m, 3090e, 10p, 15590en, 14660w ex-
Thoros whips a colossal punisher flail through the air in front of you, to no
effect.
688h, 3276m, 3090e, 10p, 15590en, 14660w ex-
Thoros whips a colossal punisher flail through the air in front of you, to no
effect.
688h, 3276m, 3090e, 10p, 15590en, 14660w ex-
Malarious takes a drink from a glowing ruby vial.
688h, 3276m, 3090e, 10p, 15590en, 14660w ex-
With a focused look, Thoros strikes at you with a colossal punisher flail. Your
left leg is elegantly struck and swept out from under you, knocking you to the
stand
ground.
Your body judders with the final strike, and a dull snap echoes out as something
vital inside you is irrevocably broken. Your last sensation is that of falling
as the world goes black, your life ended strangely painlessly.
You have been slain by Thoros.
*** SYSTEM RESET ***
It slams into you, knocking you to the ground.
stand
You plummet head first into the ground with a sickening crunch.
2492h, 3276m, 3090e, 10p, 15590en, 14660w ex-
Shikha eats a sparkleberry.
2492h, 3276m, 3090e, 10p, 15590en, 14660w ex-
Shikha reads a scroll.
2492h, 3276m, 3090e, 10p, 15590en, 14660w ex-
You stand straight up.
2492h, 3276m, 3090e, 10p, 15590en, 14660w ex-
You bleed 50 health.
2442h, 3276m, 3090e, 10p, 15590en, 14660w ex-
Thoros stumbles slowly in, as if held back by some invisible force.
2442h, 3276m, 3090e, 10p, 15590en, 14660w ex-
Shikha stumbles and grimaces, holding her head and her stomach as she suffers
the wrath of a war shrine of Terentia.
Thoros stumbles and grimaces, holding his head and his stomach as he suffers the
wrath of a war shrine of Terentia.
Malarious pales and cries out in ecstasy.
Malarious stops all movement, a stunned look on his face.
Malarious stumbles and grimaces, holding his head and his stomach as he suffers
the wrath of a war shrine of Terentia.
2442h, 3276m, 3090e, 10p, 15590en, 14660w ex-
Thoros points a stinging wasp brooch at the ground, and sparks fly out of it.
The sparks quickly fizzle out.
2442h, 3276m, 3090e, 10p, 15590en, 14660w ex-
Shikha whips a claymore of purified steel through the air in front of you, to no
effect.
Cleaving through your defenses, Shikha makes a slow deadly strike at your left
leg with a claymore of purified steel. Shikha powerfully strikes your left leg,
and blood fountains out in a thick spray.
688h, 3276m, 3090e, 10p, 15590en, 14660w ex-
Thoros whips a colossal punisher flail through the air in front of you, to no
effect.
688h, 3276m, 3090e, 10p, 15590en, 14660w ex-
Thoros whips a colossal punisher flail through the air in front of you, to no
effect.
688h, 3276m, 3090e, 10p, 15590en, 14660w ex-
Malarious takes a drink from a glowing ruby vial.
688h, 3276m, 3090e, 10p, 15590en, 14660w ex-
With a focused look, Thoros strikes at you with a colossal punisher flail. Your
left leg is elegantly struck and swept out from under you, knocking you to the
stand
ground.
Your body judders with the final strike, and a dull snap echoes out as something
vital inside you is irrevocably broken. Your last sensation is that of falling
as the world goes black, your life ended strangely painlessly.
You have been slain by Thoros.
*** SYSTEM RESET ***
Whole thing was done in under 5 seconds. I didn't even see what happened, I just died. Granted I was at about 2/3 my normal health, but the matter stands. This is with 51/52 robes.
Unknown2008-08-16 20:43:37
Ehhh, I don't think so. At 2500 h, attacked by Malarious, Shikha and Thoros and I would expect you to die in 5 seconds.
Desitrus2008-08-16 20:46:01
Knights do too much damage? Rofl.
8674h, 3736m, 6057e, 1p, 28144en, 25355w ekb<>-
As the carillion bells thunder in the air, Meliana nearly doubles over when an angry cough suddenly wracks her body.
As the carillion bells thunder in the air, Kiradawea nearly doubles over when an angry cough suddenly wracks her body.
As the carillion bells thunder in the air, Liam nearly doubles over when an angry cough suddenly wracks his body.
As the carillion bells thunder in the air, Dysolis nearly doubles over when an angry cough suddenly wracks his body.
Dysolis curls up and dies as the wracking cough rips his lungs to shreds.
Dysolis has been slain by Malarious.
Dysolis drops a kafe bean.
Dysolis drops a kafe bean.
Dysolis drops a stalk of faeleaf.
Dysolis drops a stalk of faeleaf.
Dysolis drops a stalk of faeleaf.
Dysolis drops a bunch of pennyroyal.
Dysolis drops a calamus root.
A ghostly form rises from Dysolis's body followed by a bright flash. A new breathing body appears around the form, restoring him from certain death.
As the carillion bells thunder in the air, you are nearly blinded by pain when an angry cough suddenly wracks your body.
4244h, 3718m, 6057e, 1p, 28144en, 25352w ekb<>-
8674h, 3736m, 6057e, 1p, 28144en, 25355w ekb<>-
As the carillion bells thunder in the air, Meliana nearly doubles over when an angry cough suddenly wracks her body.
As the carillion bells thunder in the air, Kiradawea nearly doubles over when an angry cough suddenly wracks her body.
As the carillion bells thunder in the air, Liam nearly doubles over when an angry cough suddenly wracks his body.
As the carillion bells thunder in the air, Dysolis nearly doubles over when an angry cough suddenly wracks his body.
Dysolis curls up and dies as the wracking cough rips his lungs to shreds.
Dysolis has been slain by Malarious.
Dysolis drops a kafe bean.
Dysolis drops a kafe bean.
Dysolis drops a stalk of faeleaf.
Dysolis drops a stalk of faeleaf.
Dysolis drops a stalk of faeleaf.
Dysolis drops a bunch of pennyroyal.
Dysolis drops a calamus root.
A ghostly form rises from Dysolis's body followed by a bright flash. A new breathing body appears around the form, restoring him from certain death.
As the carillion bells thunder in the air, you are nearly blinded by pain when an angry cough suddenly wracks your body.
4244h, 3718m, 6057e, 1p, 28144en, 25352w ekb<>-
Xenthos2008-08-16 20:47:22
QUOTE(Desitrus @ Aug 16 2008, 04:46 PM) 546859
You're hallucinating that damage.
Ashteru2008-08-16 20:49:35
Necroscream is weak, it needs a buff.
Saaga2008-08-16 20:51:25
Srsly. QQ.
Desitrus2008-08-16 20:51:32
Of course he doesn't want a cap, that is what I was getting at earlier. Most of those people were left at 200-500 hp.
Unknown2008-08-16 21:28:41
I think you said yourself that what Malarious did there was a bug, Desitrus.
Knight damage isn't a bug. And if you ask Vathael / Thoros, it's probably balanced to do 1.8k per -swing- not combo to someone at 5k+ health. (yes I'm aware it was a lunge in Saaga's log.). Seeing this I don't get why thunderclap was removed. It didn't actually do more to most people than such a lunge combo. Bring it back I say.
Knight damage isn't a bug. And if you ask Vathael / Thoros, it's probably balanced to do 1.8k per -swing- not combo to someone at 5k+ health. (yes I'm aware it was a lunge in Saaga's log.). Seeing this I don't get why thunderclap was removed. It didn't actually do more to most people than such a lunge combo. Bring it back I say.
Vathael2008-08-16 21:37:06
I can tell you from my point of view, any time I lunge your right leg there will be sensitivity added. We were all whoring out Ibululu. What do you expect in a 15 v 4. We were going to use wounding instead to make it more fair but again Celest wouldn't come even with 10 people. They had to wait for more and add ripple/shrine affs.
EDIT: Again from the beginning we weren't using Vendetta. When we lost after the first round we went back and got Vendetta to even the odds. I guess that's a bad thing!
Grandmistress Saaga Dekoven, The Dean of Twilight (Female Loboshigaru).
...
She is an enemy of your Divine Order.
EDIT: Again from the beginning we weren't using Vendetta. When we lost after the first round we went back and got Vendetta to even the odds. I guess that's a bad thing!
Grandmistress Saaga Dekoven, The Dean of Twilight (Female Loboshigaru).
...
She is an enemy of your Divine Order.
Unknown2008-08-16 21:43:02
QUOTE(Vathael @ Aug 16 2008, 11:37 PM) 546887
I can tell you from my point of view, any time I lunge your right leg there will be sensitivity added. We were all whoring out Ibululu. What do you expect in a 15 v 4. We were going to use wounding instead to make it more fair but again Celest wouldn't come even with 10 people. They had to wait for more and add ripple/shrine affs.
If you mean me, I'm actually only pointing at Saaga's log here, but you're exactly giving the justification that's expected anyhow. You basically say that stacking all the damage buffs you have will cause this effect. I agree, but I don't think it should be that way. In my opinion at least, a damage class isn't something that should be able to kill most reasonable high level people (read average health, let's say 4-6k) in 1-2 combos. Not even if you spend thousands of credits on artifacts.
Vathael2008-08-16 21:45:53
Yes, my response was to Saaga's post. You not healing sensitivity, however, is not my fault. Use truehearing and you can tell when it hits you if not avoid it completely.
Unknown2008-08-16 21:48:28
QUOTE(Vathael @ Aug 16 2008, 11:45 PM) 546891
Yes, my response was to Saaga's post. You not healing sensitivity, however, is not my fault. Use truehearing and you can tell when it hits you if not avoid it completely.
Missed. my. point.
On purpose?
Desitrus2008-08-16 21:50:22
What are you talking about? That was TODAY, not my previous log. That JUST happened.
Unknown2008-08-16 21:50:34
QUOTE(shadow @ Aug 16 2008, 09:48 PM) 546892
Missed. my. point.
On purpose?
On purpose?
Stacking every single damage buff you can on the damage class of the class that deals the most damage shouldn't be deadly to people who don't have the utmost defence agaisnt that type of damage?
