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Unknown2008-08-14 20:16:24
QUOTE(Saaga @ Aug 14 2008, 03:12 PM) 545766
There is an excellent CMUD system out there as well.

Is this the one you mean?
Or is there another one floating about the forums?

I don't want folks to think I'm looking for the easy way into combat/out of scripting myself, but I'm headed to London in 3 weeks and staying for three months, so coding a system isn't even close to being viable.
Atellus2008-08-14 20:22:02
QUOTE(Aryxias @ Aug 14 2008, 01:16 PM) 545769
Is this the one you mean?
Or is there another one floating about the forums?

I don't want folks to think I'm looking for the easy way into combat/out of scripting myself, but I'm headed to London in 3 weeks and staying for three months, so coding a system isn't even close to being viable.


That is the one, the person behind it rocks =) It is updated very often and you have the option of paying a small credit fee if you would like more personalized support.

The Mush one is good as well, but I (despite all its flaws) still enjoy CMUD far more than Mush.

I have a self made map in CMUD but it is not complete and was never designed to be shared so I have no idea if it would be of any use or not. There is an ingame map now as well that takes away the need for using a 3rd party map. I just map out the areas I am often in and then if I find myself teleporting around or something and getting lost I just turn on the in game map. Best of both worlds.

And um, yeah...vibrating sticks and spiritual mumbo jumbo, join the Tahtetso today!
Revan2008-08-14 20:25:05
To be blunt, if you want top notch RP, go Nihilist. There's nowhere else that really comes close
Aison2008-08-14 21:00:25
QUOTE(Aryxias @ Aug 14 2008, 11:22 AM) 545713
The problem here is too many choices...

Ninjakari or Tahtetso
Nihilists or Celestines
Geomancers
Looking at the Wiki even the Warrior archetype is looking cool.

It all comes down to RP really, where it excels, where it lacks and what style there is for each.
Really, like I said, I don't have any huge personal factors that sway me towards one or another as far as RP is concerned. I'm more interested in being able to create a dynamic character in a rich environment.


If it helps any, Celestines were just recently a part of an event that caused their entire guildhall to be destroyed, and are now in the process of re-building. We're also attempting to find out more about our history and write it all down. So we are in a tough spot, but it's a lot of fun and good for testing your character.
Rika2008-08-14 21:02:39
Depends whether you want to play a morally 'good' character or a morally 'evil' character. I use 'good' loosely for the Celestian guilds, but evil for Magnagora is a lot closer.
Unknown2008-08-14 21:07:57
For the record, good and evil are very loosely defined in Lusternia. Magnagora/Glomdoring are more 'dark' than 'evil', I'd argue... grim, serious, but if you talk to the people in the organizations (from an IC point of view, of course, as this is RP-related), they are more the victims than the aggressors; that is, many Gloom characters view Serenwilders as the barbarians to the north who insist on attacking Glomdoring just because they're different and would prefer to be left on their own in peace.

(And yes, several of us Gloom players will reference emoness as much as possible, but it's more of a running joke than anything else.)
Unknown2008-08-14 21:09:50
QUOTE(Salvation @ Aug 14 2008, 04:07 PM) 545810
For the record, good and evil are very loosely defined in Lusternia.


This is definitely good...I mean evil...

I mean in benefits me, and is therefore as I stand, good.
Celina2008-08-14 21:12:50
QUOTE(Aryxias @ Aug 14 2008, 02:02 PM) 545729
So they're both playing the anti-hero in a way?

Magnagora commits acts that in an objective sense are evil, while believing they're doing what's "good for them."
And New Celest under the guise of Goodness let slip through situations and actions that are evil.

Sounds fun.

So I'm probably going to flip a coin to decide between New Celest or Magnagora
and roll 1d3 between Geomancer, Ninjakari, or Nihilist. (or their celestine counterparts)


There isn't really "evil" in lusternia. Alignment isn't good/bad here, it's dependent on your view of the Taint. Essentially, you are either pro or anti taint to some degree. Oddly enough, the most blind and zealous org isn't Mag or Celest, it's Glomdoring. They also tend to be the quietest org.

Mag RP is very Victorian-esque. There's a class system, where ranks and Noble Houses mean something. Unfortunately, just like every org, we do have our people that don't RP...or RP the cliche "evil" like eating puppies and whatever. However, if you look around and find the right groups of people...you'll find a really awesome RP environment. A great way, and probably the best way, to find amazing RP is to join and Order (I can't stress this enough!). Currently, Fain is the only active God in Mag (Morgfyre just left sad.gif ) but Morgfyre's Order is still very active. Being involved with your Order will help you find RP everywhere as well as give you stuff to do. Undoubtedly, Celest has great RP with Orders too, I just am not familiar with it.

If you are interested in joining an Order and do go Mag, I'd suggest talking to:

Morgfyre: Linaeve, Nariah, Revan

Fain: Karnagan, Sthai, Morvior, or even Me.

These people are always willing to help others get involved and are great RPers. They are also a great resource if you just don't know what to do (just be careful cause some probably won't be pleased if someone really low ranked bugs them repeatedly).

Finally, as for guilds....I can say from experience that Nihilist has the most RP out of the three, Geomancers being second, and Ninjakari having the least. None of them are bad choices, though.
Unknown2008-08-14 21:13:56
Welcome to Lusternia! Have fun!
Unknown2008-08-14 21:19:35
QUOTE(Celina @ Aug 14 2008, 04:12 PM) 545817
massively helpful information etc

Finally, as for guilds....I can say from experience that Nihilist has the most RP out of the three, Geomancers being second, and Ninjakari having the least. None of them are bad choices, though.


If Nihilist didn't have the high credit requirement I'd definitely consider them...as it is if I see myself gravitating towards them regardless of my situation I won't hesitate to jump in the pool.

As far as guild-centered RP goes I'm willing to let a little lack slide as long as I can get in with, as stated, an active order and the city itself.

What I'm trying to avoid is a shell of a guild whose members are cliche metagamers choosing the most powerful race/archetype combo...I don't think that's really present anywhere in Lusternia though, and I'm not really worried.

I'm off workin 12 minutes (thank god Zod) so I'll be making my char soon *glee*
Unknown2008-08-14 21:24:25
The best thing to do when playing a new game (IRE game, at least) is to just keep making new characters in different guilds until you find one that really engages you. I stuck to my current character (Shadowdancer then) after playing through every other guild available at the time (except Aquamancers, Moondancers, and Serenguard, I believe.)
Celina2008-08-14 21:39:36
QUOTE(Aryxias @ Aug 14 2008, 04:19 PM) 545823
If Nihilist didn't have the high credit requirement I'd definitely consider them...as it is if I see myself gravitating towards them regardless of my situation I won't hesitate to jump in the pool.

As far as guild-centered RP goes I'm willing to let a little lack slide as long as I can get in with, as stated, an active order and the city itself.

What I'm trying to avoid is a shell of a guild whose members are cliche metagamers choosing the most powerful race/archetype combo...I don't think that's really present anywhere in Lusternia though, and I'm not really worried.

I'm off workin 12 minutes (thank god Zod) so I'll be making my char soon *glee*


Well, Nihilists aren't metagamers. Their combat is kind of lacking, I won't lie to you. The "metagaming" races were recently nerfed so no guild is vastly dominated by combat metagamers of the same race (Ninjakari have a lot of illithoids though, but then again Nihilists and geos have a lot of viscanti). If you are interested in combat, you'll need to tri trans as a Nihilist. There's no getting around it. You might be able to fudge a bit as a tarot user and not trans, but it's still helpful.

As I said, they are all good choices, and if you look, you'll find the RP no matter where you go.

Personally, I'm a Nihilist, and though the combat sucks, I really enjoy the guild interaction.
Desitrus2008-08-14 21:50:58
QUOTE(Aryxias @ Aug 14 2008, 03:16 PM) 545769
Is this the one you mean?
Or is there another one floating about the forums?

I don't want folks to think I'm looking for the easy way into combat/out of scripting myself, but I'm headed to London in 3 weeks and staying for three months, so coding a system isn't even close to being viable.


Cat's system is great and it sets itself up, what more could you ask for!
Iwiertas2008-08-14 21:51:17
Welcome to Lusternia. Glom is evil, either, actually. Just... devoted is the right term. I'd hesitate to say that out of all the guilds I've played alts in, Blacktalon has the best RP by -far-. However, many of the bard guilds manage to put out some seriously cool stuff. But, if you're feeling like Magnagora, go with Celina in the Nihilist.

Celina wins at intrigue RP.
Kaalak2008-08-14 21:59:49
QUOTE(Aryxias @ Aug 14 2008, 01:10 PM) 545762
Oh I imagine so, I like making my own though, partially to see my exploration progress, partially because I really just enjoy seeing something like that grow into functionality.

Now if there's a complete, color-coded, and functional cmud compatible map out there, I might be swayed away from making my own...it's not tough though.


I really think Shamarah's mapper was a great deal for 20 credits. You can use it with CMUD, ZMUD or any client other than Nexus really.

I should have got it the first week I started. Keep in mind he hasn't updated the new area (*poke Shamara*) but it makes a world of difference for me.

For Glom RP if you were ever considering visiting there bump into Leiliadhe, Ashai, Emar, and Marina.

Edit: For Seren run into Lendren (the game's leading playwright) and Nejii who has forgotten more lore about the basin than most people know.
Celina2008-08-14 22:11:45
Fiiiine.

If I absolutely HAD to be totally honest and suggest the guild with the best RP that I've been a part of...

It goes to Blacktalon in Glomdoring, hands down. Glomdoring is awesome, and the BT under Emar was just amazing(Ashai, Silf, and Iwiertas were amazing as well). Sadly, Emar is gone and Glomdoring can get a little boring. For one reason or another, Glomdoring is really reluctant to do anything...ever.

If you join Glom, you'll have to make your own entertainment a lot of times while you are waiting for certain people to show up. If you are interested in PK at all, avoid Glom like the plague. Glom is awesome, and amazing RP potetential, it's just a question of wether it appeals to you and if you are willing to put up with Glomdoring's downsides.

wub.gif Iwiertas

Still, I'd suggest Mag...because it's fun. And Nihilists. And Fain.

/propoganda
Kaalak2008-08-14 22:16:03
QUOTE(Celina @ Aug 14 2008, 02:39 PM) 545835
Well, Nihilists aren't metagamers. Their combat is kind of lacking, I won't lie to you.


I think this is a general guardian problem. We guardians certainly fill a strong role, but have less diversity than other classes. Talkan! Malarious! I chose you!
Iwiertas2008-08-14 22:18:32
QUOTE(Celina @ Aug 14 2008, 04:11 PM) 545849
Fiiiine.

If I absolutely HAD to be totally honest and suggest the guild with the best RP that I've been a part of...

It goes to Blacktalon in Glomdoring, hands down. Glomdoring is awesome, and the BT under Emar was just amazing(Ashai, Silf, and Iwiertas were amazing as well). Sadly, Emar is gone and Glomdoring can get a little boring. For one reason or another, Glomdoring is really reluctant to do anything...ever.

If you join Glom, you'll have to make your own entertainment a lot of times while you are waiting for certain people to show up. If you are interested in PK at all, avoid Glom like the plague. Glom is awesome, and amazing RP potetential, it's just a question of wether it appeals to you and if you are willing to put up with Glomdoring's downsides.

wub.gif Iwiertas

Still, I'd suggest Mag...because it's fun. And Nihilists. And Fain.

/propoganda

In Mag, you'll never have a problem with finding raids or pk, but you'll have to sometimes search for RP. Glomdoring is the opposite of that, really. For example, if you send me an OOC tell, or even approach me IC, I'll happily play along with whatever your schemes are, as long as it fits my character.

Really, and truly, Blacktalon are fascinating. Even if you'll really only see Arilyon, Ayisdra, Kundu, Silferras and me on the majority of the time, when Ried and Nyir get back we'll have a fully functioning guild again. Come2glom, we need a good protector.

/propoganda
Ashai2008-08-14 22:21:52
If you do become a Blacktalon, I will shower you with love, adoration, and anything else your little heart desires.

Edit: I should explain why. Being a druid is a fairly intensive class. Druids are basically the caretakers of the forest, and have more assigned to them than any other sort of forest guild. Also, in combat, druid demesnes are essential and you'll always be in a vital role. Some people get a little worn out being a druidy drood, I'll admit that I was, but it helps if there are more people to bear the duties. Like I said, though, you'll get a lot of praise and recognition quickly, and become a very important person if you do decide to be a druid, and I'll still give you all sorts of love and affection and textual wealth.

/shameless
Unknown2008-08-14 22:25:39
Druid combat is, from my understanding, fairly cheap to enter in Lusternia. Guild-wise, all you really need is Sap in Druidry and enough lessons in your tertiary to hinder. I believe Runes was the ideal choice for ghetto druids, but Runes and Ecology have both received massive changes lately (and Dreamweaving will be receiving one soon), so not sure on the exact situation at the moment.