well, as I should vote for someone and random.org has never failed me Vote:Furien

I'm not sure "hard and fast" covers it. Remember last game when she shot someone completely at random? Luckily for her she turned out to be a scum (and then she tried to claim afterwards she had suspicions) but she actually had no idea and it was a terrible move. So Celina is pretty much a safe go-to lynch if we don't have anything more productive.

That being the case, vote: Othero for now, for trying to dismiss it as "hard and fast". Not a great reason but I'm sure one will come up later.

Heh, I meant to quote Lorick up there with his "Loose and Fast" comment but I obviously can't read.

Oh...hm. Ok. Well, I don't have anywhere better to put my vote for now though. But here's Celina, so we'll see if she flips out and daykills someone again.

It was a joke? You just blue my mind!

Don't like my methods? Get over it. No one who played the last game can say I didn't contribute to rooting out the scum on multiples occassions and saving the townies

Apparently the mafia gods know better than...results.

Vote: Shiri

For pointing the finger at Othero and myself without any reason.

And a better reason comes up already! You could have chosen to defend yourself properly, but instead came up with "randomly vigging on day 1 with OMGUS replacing actual reasoning is a valid tactic." This playing style is a reliability, results or not. (your chances were 5/11 of hitting a scum, btw, so the "results" are not that impressive here) and you're now voting at me for explaining that, so you can only be a detriment to the mutants.

Unvote: Othero. Vote: Celina.

I saved Revan from a lynching? I rooted out the scum with love arrows on multiple occassions. You specifically chose to ignore that in my last post. You were waiting for my post (you posted waiting for it) and I knew you were going to use whatever I wrote as a "That's not a proper defense" (even though your judgement had already been made) to vote for me. In fact, this is very similair to the tactic that you used against me several games ago, in which you turned out to be scum. No matter what the person posts, it's scummy or a bad defense.

Also as a note, you specifically chose to ignore my reason for voting for you entirely.

This tactic is almost a copy and paste of your previous scummy tactic. I'm glad I know it well enough to see it now!

If you can find me that post of his, my vote will gladly change.

Well, now that I know she can't daykill people, considering Shiri would be dead otherwise, lets vote.

Vote : Celina

It was a long time ago. It was like my first mafia game, I'm not even sure what the theme was. I think just classic mafia with guns and stuff.

Anyway, upon reviewing Shiri's posts, it has come to my conclusion that he is thus far the most suspicious person thus far. For some reason, he took the chance to jump on Celina from not defending herself from what could be random conjecture.

So...

Unvote: Celina. Vote: Shiri

Actually, you could easily have responded with anything along the lines of "yeah, I won't use the anti-scum tactic of flipping out and lashing at people for no good reason this game like in previous games" and then I would have unvoted you (until you inevitably started doing it again.) That was the HOPE.
I mean, of course I posted waiting for you...I figured this would be your reaction.

In any case, not sure if I have to unvote Celina or not now. Obviously the reasoning started out by agreeing with others relying on previous tactics, but now she's only making it worse for herself.

I did actually do what she's describing, but funnily enough she was acting ridiculously scummy at the time, lying her arse off about insanity and whatever so everyone could tell she was suspicious. Only once she roleclaimed doctor and Thoros police-confirmed her did anyone believe her.

It's really not random conjecture.

Anyway...do Celina and I have to unvote? We're both using previous habits of the person...I dunno, going to be -very- hard not to do this.

Bali may not be a fan of metagaming but Celina is consistently a liability to the town and I stand by my vote. When she does occasionally contribute to the game it's more by accident than any deliberate act or planning.

Eh, Balizar, you should replace me.

People aren't going to seperate what they don't like about me from a game role. My results, no matter how positive, are going to be skewed by personal feelings. I don't want to hurt whatever side I'm on just because people don't like me. Let someone else enjoy the role!

It's day one, no kills, and unless someone explodes and starts killing people at random, all we have to go off of is previous games until we have claims or lynch. Or someone starts a mass claim.

Or random votes like Othero