It means that at this point in time, we have Arix, Saran, and Daganev as confirmed town, and 6 others who we don't know about yet, with a reasonable suspicion that Shiri is the last killer. (unless we hear something else from someone to give us other information)

Ok, I see.

The SK may have Innocence, but I doubt that. And there's no way two mafia would have innocence. So I think we can believe Daganev.

How would I be lying if the doctor protected you? I really don't understand the logic there....

I don't think it's better to assume there's still a mafia out there.

As for people who have claimed, if you believe everything they say:

Saran is the captain, with a 1-shot pardon left
I'm a vanilla
Daganev is a standard issue roleblocker
Arix is a cop
No one else has a claim, I think. (Archer, Silvanus, Rika, Xiran, one other person out there.)

Daganev: Arix isn't confirmed town for now, someone might come out and make a cop claim later.

The message got both times was along the lines of 'you work them over for awhile and get the idea that they are loyal to the company'

Uh...good question, it made sense to me as I was posting it but I can't remember why. Withdraw that comment, I guess.

I'm not sure I get your reasoning here, why would this mean Daganev is lying (or suggest such)?

Stupid ninja-posts :/

Sorry, but if Arix investigated me, and says I'm innocent, which I know I am, then in my book he is confirmed. The mafia investigator is allready dead.

To clarify, Daganev 'appears to be loyal', and Xavius 'gave me the impression of loyalty'. That's about as specific as I can get, and I might be pushing it as is

Arix, are you a military psychologist or something?

But you can't assume that he DID investigate you. I mean, you already made your claim. He hasn't provided anything other than publically available information. There's still a chance, unless noone else turns up with a cop claim, that he's an SK and lying his arse off about investigation.

I think Shiri is just trying to sound useful and pulling out anything he can to delay the lynch and try to get us looking suspiciously at the people we have confirming each-other.

But I could be wrong.

Hm, Shiri is starting to give off somewhat scummy vibes. From earlier on in the game to now with the German thing, the vanilla claim, talking about "Not Wasting an Investigation on Me", continued suspicion of Arix (I think someone else would've stepped forward at this point if they were the actual cop).

Vote: Shiri

That's what? Three of five?

Unvote

Vote Shiri

I'm pretty sure that unless Daganev is an 'innocent' SK or he inherited the innocent trait by virtue of being the last mafia ( bit of a stretch, but it's Mafia, so maybe) that my investigation was valid. I will admit that I am a bit skeptical because of the wording, but past experience as an investigator has made me a bit paranoid. You, on the other hand, are setting off scum alarms to me. You set them off before when you were fishing for roles, and you are setting them off now by trying to divert attention away from yourself. If Daganev does turn out to be scum, I will gladly accept a lynch because it would mean that I failed as an investigator, but for now I've got my eye on you.

Also looked like he was trying to get the doctor to reveal themselves.

I covered that. See: Fishing for roles

Thats silly, only 5 of us have even spoken at this point.

Me, Shiri, Arix, Rika, You, there are 4 other people who havn't even posted yet to be investigators.

Remember how fast people posted in regards to Silfferas after her claim, and you almost lynched me before I could tell you she was lieing?

That said, I think Shiri is trying to use that fact to delay his own lynch right now. But just be carefull about seeing who has and who hasn't spoken yet.

Well, keep in mind everything I've said when I'm confirmed, don't screw this up now.