You must regain balance first.

by Furien

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Casilu2008-09-22 16:14:59
I'm useful in a group! Ask Shuyin.
Unknown2008-09-22 16:27:07
QUOTE(shadow @ Sep 22 2008, 09:27 AM) 560580
Dear Envoys,

Please ask for balance loss to not stack. It just gets crazy. Thank you.

PS: I think stun already doesn't stack riiiight? If not please change. It kills a puppy each time stun stacks, and we all love puppies after all. sad.gif


If this is the case please please please change necromancy from being based around balance loss to something else.
Unknown2008-09-22 16:31:47
QUOTE(Thoros LaSaet @ Sep 22 2008, 06:27 PM) 560682
If this is the case please please please change necromancy from being based around balance loss to something else.


...

You don't seriously want me to believe that your combat resolves around STACKING BALANCE LOSS on people right?
Ronny2008-09-22 17:21:42
Nihilists depend on stacking balance loss to sacrifice I believe.
Unknown2008-09-22 17:26:30
I'm sure there are other ways to get there. It's the stacking part that's being objected to here.
Ashteru2008-09-22 17:29:36
QUOTE(Zarquan @ Sep 22 2008, 05:26 PM) 560733
I'm sure there are other ways to get there. It's the stacking part that's being objected to here.

Nope. Can't get sacrifice without stacking balanceloss. Srsly.
Geb2008-09-22 18:23:52
Remember this post by you Thoros?

QUOTE
You spew forth a filthy cloud of bloated green flies.
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You bleed 10 health.
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You may drink another purgative or curing potion.
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A fetid cold surrounds Geb who shudders.
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With a quick spin, Geb strikes your right leg with a battered tahto staff.
You fumble to keep your footing from the powerful strike.
With a quick spin, Geb strikes your left leg with a battered tahto staff.
You fumble to keep your footing from the powerful strike.
A coldness seeps deep into the marrow of your bones.
drink fire
With a quick spin, Geb kicks you in the head with his left foot.
You may eat or smoke another herb.
6471h, 3947m, 6300e, 7p, 26400en, 30870w k<>-
You take a drink from a bloodstone vial.
A feeling of comfortable warmth spreads over you.
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Geb takes a drink from an onyx vial.
6471h, 3947m, 6300e, 7p, 26400en, 30870w k<>-ql
info here
who here

At the top of a roaring waterfall.
A sickly black cloud of filth pollutes the air, buzzing with bloated green flies. Geb Kamau towers here, shrouded. He wields a battered tahto staff with both hands.
You see exits leading north, east, west, northwest, and down.
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"mistdragon10392" Merfua de Brume, a mist dragon
"mistdragon49963" L'eau de Brume, a mist dragon
"contagion100320" a cloud of contagion
Number of objects: 3
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You see the following people here:
Geb, Thoros
***Anti Illusion Mode Activated***
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Geb swings a battered tahto staff at you, but you duck out of its way.
Geb swings his leg high into the air at your head.
A magic aura flares around you and completely absorbs the damage.
6471h, 3947m, 6300e, 7p, 26400en, 30870w k<>-apply health to legs

You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your skin.
The deep damage in your left leg completely heals.
6471h, 3947m, 6300e, 7p, 26400en, 30870w k<>-
You may drink another purgative or curing potion.
6471h, 3947m, 6300e, 7p, 26400en, 30870w k<>-
You have recovered equilibrium.
6471h, 3947m, 6300e, 7p, 26400en, 30870w ek<>-
With a quick spin, Geb kicks you in the head with his left foot.
Geb cracks a battered tahto staff precisely into your right arm, causing spasms to numb your stiffening side.
smoke 16699
Geb swings a battered tahto staff at you, but you duck out of its way.
Now now, don't be so hasty!
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You take a toke from the pipe.
AFFHEMIPLEGY(RIGHT)_CURED
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Merfua de Brume, a mist dragon breathes mist at you.
L'eau de Brume, a mist dragon breathes mist at you.
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POSSIBLE AMNESIA
You can hardly contemplate sleeping with the water currents attempting to drag you down.
Tiny tremours spread through your body as the world seems to slow down.
5550h, 3872m, 6300e, 7p, 26400en, 30854w ek<>-(1)
5550h, 3872m, 6300e, 7p, 26400en, 30854w ek<>-(1)sprinkle salt

5550h, 3872m, 6300e, 7p, 26400en, 30854w ek<>-(1)sprinkle salt

Geb razes your speed defence with a battered tahto staff.
drink quicksilver
With a quick spin, Geb strikes your right leg with a battered tahto staff.
You fumble to keep your footing from the powerful strike.
With a quick spin, Geb strikes your left leg with a battered tahto staff.
You fumble to keep your footing from the powerful strike.
Geb twists and aims a kick at you, but you jump back and out of the way.
4656h, 3872m, 6300e, 7p, 26400en, 30854w ek<>-(1)sprinkle salt

4656h, 3872m, 6300e, 7p, 26400en, 30854w ek<>-(1)sprinkle salt

You take a drink from a ruby vial.
4656h, 3872m, 6300e, 7p, 26400en, 30854w ek<>-(1)
4656h, 3872m, 6300e, 7p, 26400en, 30854w ek<>-(1)sprinkle salt

4656h, 3858m, 6300e, 7p, 26400en, 30851w ek<>-(1)sprinkle salt

4656h, 3858m, 6300e, 7p, 26400en, 30851w ek<>-(1)sprinkle salt

4656h, 3858m, 6300e, 7p, 26400en, 30851w ek<>-(1)
You bleed 24 health.
4632h, 3858m, 6300e, 7p, 26400en, 30851w ek<>-(1)sprinkle salt

4632h, 3858m, 6300e, 7p, 26400en, 30851w ek<>-(1)sprinkle salt

4632h, 3858m, 6300e, 7p, 26400en, 30851w ek<>-(1)
You may eat or smoke another herb.
outr pennyroyal
eat pennyroyal
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Geb sweeps a battered tahto staff into your chest with a loud crack, causing the staff to vibrate.
Geb swings his leg high into the air at your head, sending you reeling.
3995h, 4224m, 6300e, 7p, 26400en, 30851w ekp<>-(1)sprinkle salt

3995h, 4224m, 6300e, 8p, 26400en, 30851w ekp<>-(1)sprinkle salt

You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 1268.
3995h, 4224m, 6300e, 8p, 26400en, 30851w ekp<>-(1)
You fondle yourself absently.
focus mind
eat pennyroyal
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You focus your mind intently on curing your mental maladies.
You aren't such a complete idiot anymore.
___Afflictions Cleared.___
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You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
3995h, 4037m, 6300e, 8p, 26400en, 30776w ekp<>-sprinkle salt
You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
3995h, 4037m, 6300e, 8p, 26400en, 30776w ekp<>-
With a quick spin, Geb strikes your head with a battered tahto staff.
Geb sweeps a battered tahto staff into you, sending painful vibrations up your gut.
With a quick spin, Geb kicks you in the head with his left foot.
A surge of rejuvenating energy floods your system, healing your wounds.
4715h, 4037m, 6300e, 8p, 26400en, 30776w ekp<>-sprinkle salt

Stunned.
4715h, 4037m, 6300e, 8p, 26400en, 30776w ekp<>-sprinkle salt
sprinkle salt

You have recovered balance on all limbs.
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Stunned.
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Stunned.
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Stunned.
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Stunned.
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Your mind is able to focus once again.
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Geb swings a battered tahto staff at you but hits nothing but air.
With a quick spin, Geb strikes your right leg with a battered tahto staff.
You fumble to keep your footing from the powerful strike.
Geb swings his leg high into the air at your head.
3252h, 4112m, 6300e, 8p, 26400en, 30790w ekp<>-

You may eat or smoke another herb.
3252h, 4112m, 6300e, 8p, 26400en, 30790w ekp<>-apply health to
You are no longer stunned.
outr sparkleberry
eat sparkleberry
CURRENT STANCE - UPPER
Bodytarget - Legs - Head
stand
stance legs
unparry
parry head 100
read 55123
apply health to legs
With a quick spin, Geb strikes your head with a battered tahto staff.
Hmmmm. Why must everything be so difficult to figure out?
focus mind
Geb sweeps a battered tahto staff into you, sending painful vibrations up your gut.
You shrug off the effects of the poison.
Geb leaps into the air and kicks out at you, but falls short and misses.
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You eat a sparkleberry.
You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
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You flip the bird.
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You flap your arms madly.
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You yell, "I like cheese!"
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Quit trying to confuse me.

Several flies from the black cloud of filth fly into the mouth of Geb, making him gag and choke.
Geb razes your speed defence with a battered tahto staff.
drink quicksilver
With a quick spin, Geb strikes your head with a battered tahto staff.
Your vision spins and everything suddenly becomes hazy as your head throbs in pain.
With a quick spin, Geb strikes your head with a battered tahto staff.
With a quick spin, Geb kicks you in the head with his left foot.
You collapse to the ground and die as your body is no longer able to take the punishment.
You have been slain by Geb.
You are no longer stunned.
stand
stance upper
You are OUT of the combat free-for-all!
The spectator stands of the Klangratch Tournies.
The shadowy outline of a twisted forest casts a dark gloom here. Ilyarin, the White Inferno towers here. He wields a golden lyre in his left hand. Avery is here. He wields a battered tahto staff with both hands.
You see exits leading in and out.
Geb stands triumphant, the winner of the free-for-all in the Klangratch Tournies.






Didn't regain balance during the fight. Nor did any of my actions after stun go through due to the length of stun.
The fight didn't last more than 6 seconds after I dropped contagion.

Edit: Oh I regained balance nevermind...but was stunned shortly after along with more balance loss.
Admin you have surely made the perfect class!


What difference is there between what happened in this thread and what happened to you? You mentioned parry, but parry stops Bomolini too if you parry the legs, but oh that is easily bypassed with the monk knocking the person prone. Seems BCs can do the same thing, unless there is something that stops wind from working while the person is prone? BCs back then felt that it was impossible to do what was shown in this thread, but now it is known that it was just a matter of using very fast weapons to accomplish the feat.

Anyhow, just Like Bomolini needed/needs a fix, this needs a fix too. Yes, Sacrifice needs balance to stack inorder for it to be possible to pull off, but it does not need it to stack continuously. What ever limit is placed on how much balance stacks, needs to be looked at again. Also, allowing it to stack to a certain point does not exclude the possibility that after the max stack time is reached, that a balance loss immunity timer be placed after the person regains balance. I believe it is possible to balance both sides of this equation that keeps balance loss stacking from being over or underpowered.
Silvanus2008-09-22 18:50:40
That is the most unreadable post ever, Geb.

It's worse then Krin.

(Only cause I have to scroll left to right to read it...)
Ardmore2008-09-22 19:04:02
QUOTE(casilu @ Sep 22 2008, 12:14 PM) 560676
I'm useful in a group! Ask Shuyin.

Must resist making sexual joke... blackeye.gif
Fresh cut grass.
Casilu2008-09-22 19:24:56
QUOTE(Ardmore @ Sep 22 2008, 12:04 PM) 560782
Must resist making sexual joke... blackeye.gif
Fresh cut grass.


You have such a dirty mind Mr. Happy Turtle.
Napalm.
Ardmore2008-09-22 19:28:21
Teehee!
Unknown2008-09-22 20:46:37
QUOTE(Thoros LaSaet @ Sep 22 2008, 04:27 PM) 560682
If this is the case please please please change necromancy from being based around balance loss to something else.


What are the other tertiaries based around then?

What is stag based around? Crow? Is there any other tertiary that is based around a single mechanical afflcition, at least, in regards purely to knights?
Geb2008-09-22 21:01:44
QUOTE(Silvanus @ Sep 22 2008, 07:50 PM) 560780
That is the most unreadable post ever, Geb.

It's worse then Krin.

(Only cause I have to scroll left to right to read it...)


It must be a problem with IE8 beta. I turned on compatability mode, but it still messes up the alignment of posts.
Unknown2008-09-22 21:08:08
Firefox FTW.
Acrune2008-09-22 21:20:20
QUOTE(silimaur @ Sep 22 2008, 05:54 AM) 560583
The fact that anyone could honestly think that this is ok is worrying...


Worrying yes, surprising no tongue.gif
Xenthos2008-09-22 21:56:15
QUOTE(Rainydays @ Sep 22 2008, 04:46 PM) 560820
What are the other tertiaries based around then?

What is stag based around? Crow? Is there any other tertiary that is based around a single mechanical afflcition, at least, in regards purely to knights?

Crow is based around nothing.

(Though hopefully it's getting a neat focus soon!)
Vathael2008-09-22 22:16:04
It's always appeared to me in regards to what communities are aligned with which types of things.. it always seemed like Celest was aeon/blackout Glom choke/bleeding Seren aeon/sleep Mag hunger/balance loss. Correct me if I'm wrong, that's just how it has always appeared to me. Yes, it is not possible to sacrifice someone without balance loss stacking unless you're fighting some noob. That's the whole basis behind changing the 1s stun on crucify to 1s balance loss. Even before the crucify you have to have some form of balance loss tacked onto the prep so that they don't begin writhing before you get balance back and then it's a 7p down the drain. Yes, I've tried and failed many times at it even as BC though I happened to pull one off the other day and I'm sure I got a bit lucky on it as well.

NoGFX

..Anyway, got sidetracked and forgot the rest of what I was going to say.
Ashteru2008-09-22 22:22:12
QUOTE(Rainydays @ Sep 22 2008, 08:46 PM) 560820
What are the other tertiaries based around then?

What is stag based around? Crow? Is there any other tertiary that is based around a single mechanical afflcition, at least, in regards purely to knights?

I always kind of thought that Stag was based around buffing the warrior, Crow around utility skills. Sacraments is kind of harder to define. Probably Inqui, heh.
Furien2008-09-22 22:38:57
QUOTE(Vathael @ Sep 22 2008, 03:16 PM) 560852
It's always appeared to me in regards to what communities are aligned with which types of things.. it always seemed like Celest was aeon/blackout Glom choke/bleeding Seren aeon/sleep Mag hunger/balance loss. Correct me if I'm wrong, that's just how it has always appeared to me. Yes, it is not possible to sacrifice someone without balance loss stacking unless you're fighting some noob. That's the whole basis behind changing the 1s stun on crucify to 1s balance loss. Even before the crucify you have to have some form of balance loss tacked onto the prep so that they don't begin writhing before you get balance back and then it's a 7p down the drain. Yes, I've tried and failed many times at it even as BC though I happened to pull one off the other day and I'm sure I got a bit lucky on it as well.

NoGFX

..Anyway, got sidetracked and forgot the rest of what I was going to say.


Oh hey, I'm feeling reasonable and not filled with an OOC hatred for all things Tainted. (Also, note, I'm not great with warrior combat, but...)

Idea:

Change whatever the name of that actual attack is (wind/the one that causes balance loss) away from being a strike and into something else? That way it won't be a 100% hit (I'm understanding that strikes are just done STRIKE PERSON PART and either hit or miss that single part). Bad for warriors wanting to Sacrifice, yes, I know. But at the same time, compared to alternatives (People wanting to cap balance loss) that would cripple Nihilists, this would mitigate most of the problems. Maybe even help solve the ecto issue a bit, too.

Cap it on monks. Or just remove it alltogether, could care less which since they're almost done being reworked. (I'm not sure if they're being removed/toned down in the rework or not, though)

Edit: Stag is focused on keeping my ass alive, thanks! <3 All I'd really complain about is Stagform's dex (maybe) or Ancestralcurse costing 8p for a mediocre return as far as combat effectiveness is concerned.
Casilu2008-09-22 22:47:22
QUOTE(Furien @ Sep 22 2008, 03:38 PM) 560860
Cap it on monks. Or just remove it alltogether, could care less which since they're almost done being reworked. (I'm not sure if they're being removed/toned down in the rework or not, though)


Fun fact, according to Desitrus, all the monk specs are now getting balance-loss.