I'm sorry but dead players posting as "Spectators" with little quips that could be used in a current arguement is completely against the spirit of the game.

So are you letting Xavius's little comment and my outburst as a grounds to defend my post? Isn't that a little easy? I'm focusing on you because you've done scummy things, things to which you've had trouble defending thus far. How is it a stretch for me to say you know the series by heart when you say it was your first video game and you've followed it for years and years? How is that a stretch? Are you stating it is? "I do usually play in the dark. Despite what you think, I do. I'm acting no different now than I usually do." - That doesn't go very far in defending my post. Who do you think is scummy? Why? If you are town, how about you help out?

Okay, I was working on a reply to Bali but I accidentally hit something and.. the post poofed. I'm going to retry writing that in a few.

You're focusing on the spelling thing and ignoring the role-fishing, scum-jabs, and 151 claim.

As I said in my previous post, "Well, despite the fact he shouldn't be posting. I was thinking of replying the same to you." He happened to reply before I got to reading the posts.

There are plenty of people who follow series and shows and still don't know everything by heart or it's been a good deal of time (three or so months since I have I think) since they've played the games.

As for adding things? Fine. Here are my thoughts:

Rika: Moved quite quickly to jump in with your points. I may be biased because it was against me, but she didn't offer much to back up your points, if anything at all. She was quick to want to put as many votes as was safe before lynching on Ryleth to ensured he posted.

For the Shaddus vote: If I was Mafia, wouldn't I know he wasn't one? Wouldn't that have been a reason to vote for him, especially if I'm a Mafia, I'd want to get rid of the town. I didn't.

Ryleth: I can't tell you, I don't like that he's quiet. He seems a liability for the town to have, when he posts, it's nothing much. When he posts, it's one post and then he's gone again. That's problematic and useless, it does nothing to defend him from people believing him to be scum.

Doman: He didn't lie, except for the scum part. He was careless and sloppy I guess, it would be useful to the town if the other Mafia were just as sloppy but I can imagine they'll have learned from his example.

Casilu: We all generally agree that he's Wailord, however he was the one who went "Pressure voting is fun."

After that, it went on to our little disagreement.

Because he was the only one with -any- points at the time. What am I supposed to say? I agree? My vote implied it. And yes, Ryleth had posted very, very little. He needed to start talking, so I asked to put him on near-lynch. I removed my vote after he posted.

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I kind of agree with that, but one could point out she recently voted for Simon out of the blue and that doesn't seem to me like someone who is following my every whim and word.



I dont know what you are refrencing. Can you clarify?



This worries me. Ryleth claimed a powerful roleblocker and you think he's a liability because he posts little? I agree that lurkers can be detrimental to a game, and I'm sincerely hoping we dont have any scumlurkers. I'm hoping people have evolved here into something better than that. A power role will never be a liability. You get a FoS for that.

I voted for Doman because I realized that Bali was right. All he seemed to be saying in response to accusations was fluff - you're putting up smokescreens! In fact, he got called on saying that and then he did it again. I wasn't trying to bandwagon at all. In fact, I was typing my post before Arix voted... I saw an official vote count, agreed with Bali, and decided to put a little more pressure on Doman. We voted with the same time stamp, only Arix's post came through first, I guess.

Esano voted last because I had already voted. If he had already voted and I hadn't, you'd be having this conversation with him and not me

I hate when folks answer in a quote box. I have to do extra stuff to reply to it.

I am suspicious of Shiri, but it's just that same mild suspicion I always have of people like Shiri, Daganev, Xavius or Bali

This is really bugging me. Why in sweet baby jesus's name would she think Ryleth is a liability? He posted in response to the votes and prods, and claimed, albeit a little prematurely. Those votes on him were blatant fishing, and the people who did it should be held accountable (although - if Ryleth did turn scum I would feel fine in clearing Furien and Diamondais and wager Noola is the final scummer). I'm just not seeing how a new-and-improved roleblocker is a liability. Something about that just irks me.

But while I'm talking about Ryleth, something does seem off about him. In his claim posts, he states:

Shaddus never used his Sunny Day power (SHADDUS IS DEAD HELLO). Like Shiri said, we would have known if that was the case. Was this statement the result of a lurking scummer who thought he could just throw that little tidbit in for claim solidarity? After Rika called him out on it he states:



Here he is stating that Shaddus somehow boosted his power when it has been established that Shaddus never used Sunny Day, or never GOT to use it because he was killed. (He should have used it ASAP, because 2x day start in the beginning of the game would be nice, and docs wouldnt have to protect him, essentially leaving him as a undersirable townie target and another vote to the town vote pool.)

Silf clearly states Shaddus's ability:



And yet Ryleth goes on to say his own power was boosted by it, even though Shaddus never used it. If this is a blatant lie or a stupid foibled claim, I cannot tell yet. Maybe its both.

:Spectator Ghost sounds:
I think he meant "if I had used my power, I might have boosted his"

Though I understand what YOU mean, Bali, I think you are taking what was said the wrong way.

Overly quiet people never provide anything for the town.

@Nools

If thats the best case you have to offer I'm really underwhelmed. I still am annoyed about the role I got. Some people just get to have all the fun e.g Lorick (or "Lolrick" as Daganev would say). And I dont take "every other little thing people say to task" I scumhunt and evaluate people and what they say. How is that scummy? Oh wait its not - strike1 for trying to misrepresent me and make me out to be some over-analyzer.



Thats odd, because no one mentioned anything about a Doman-driven bandwagon. Funny you should bring that up. Are you worried that is what we might be thinking? And I unvoted Shaddus immediately after his claim so I dont know what you're trying to get at there. More deflection?

Shaddus, dont post.

That is a good point though, he did say 'might' - I missed that. Curse my learning disability.

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He can still block a potential NK or some other scum action. That provides alot of win in my book. Just becuse he cant post alot does not automatically mean he is useless. Ugh you aren't making it easy to let you off the hook, Dia.

Not to mention that if he's quiet, the mafia are less likely to target him.

Except that everyone is drawing attention to him

Not really, unless they're just forgetting he's playing. Which would be difficult since we keep bringing him back up.

Going to Unvote for now.

Considering I misread what he said, I dont think a Ryleth wagon or lynch is prudent at this time. Dia keeps proving herself time and time again to be a reasonable target. Other than that, my main suspects are Furien and Noola. After that, Simon and Casilu (something still might be FISHY about her). Also Cas, like I said - if you splash one more time it will be taken as a hostile action and you will be lynched for it.