Smalltown Heroes Mafia

by Xavius

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Doman2008-10-03 05:30:28
Remember guys, I can skip the night to save us a mafia-kill
Rika2008-10-03 05:30:28
Eww. Forums broke. And my doublevote is harmless (which is why I picked the role. So I don't get targetted by mafia) sad.gif
Shiri2008-10-03 05:31:37
QUOTE(Doman @ Oct 3 2008, 06:30 AM) 566066
Remember guys, I can skip the night to save us a mafia-kill

Hm...I suppose we could do that. I don't think it makes a huge difference either way since the town has a bunch of night powers.
Daganev2008-10-03 05:31:56
damn forums....

I'm just remembering the last game where I was a roleblocker and I blocked people, but nobody died for other reasons other than the roleblock.

There isn't any other suspicious activity from Rika, except for the roleblock.

Seriously, Rika unvoted to prevent a ninja lynch. If Rika had not unvoted, and Silvanus was innocent, we would have accused Rika of being suspicious. In a game of this nature, no lynch is really not a suspicious move.
Doman2008-10-03 05:32:01
You PICKING the doublevote to avoid being killed doesn't stop the chance of you being scum
Xavius2008-10-03 05:32:41
QUOTE(Shiri @ Oct 3 2008, 12:27 AM) 566062
Wtf, is this forum lagged to crap for anyone else? I know it's not my internet.

I think it's better, but yes. sad.gif
Noola2008-10-03 05:35:36
QUOTE(rika @ Oct 3 2008, 12:30 AM) 566067
Eww. Forums broke. And my doublevote is harmless (which is why I picked the role. So I don't get targetted by mafia) sad.gif



But Mafia was assigned randomly after everyone chose their roles. So you could have picked that role so you wouldn't be targetted, but then if you became mafia, you can use the double vote for some sort of nefarious purpose.
Daganev2008-10-03 05:40:46
I'm actually not certain about the math either.

On the one hand its a 50/50 chance of being correct, on the other hand its a 1/3rd chance of being wrong, which means a 2/3rd chance of being right.
Unknown2008-10-03 05:44:13
Alright, we've got Daganev believing Silferras is scum and others believing that Rika is scum.

Silferras used her Nathan powers to blow up Casilu. Therefore, if Silferras is scum, then the other scumbag had to attempt a kill. Shiri was protected, but also roleblocked Rika. Keep in mind that Shiri's ability also protects the target, so it's not 100% sure that Rika is scum. Rika could've been the scum's target, and Shiri could've been targetted for the kill by someone other than Rika but protected by the doc. Also, if Rika was targetted by scum, it was probably a safe bet since they knew I already had targetted Rika night 1 and likely wouldn't do it again.

I'm nervous about Rika being mafia with a double-vote, but I'm not entirely sure Rika is scum. Rika did jump off of Silvanus' wagon and try to get a no lynch, which is suspicious, but it's a damned either way thing. If Silvanus had been town, and Rika kept her vote, she'd still be under suspicion.

I'm skeptical of Furien's lack of content and bandwagon jumping -still-. Yes, Furien voted Silvanus, but only when it appeared like the lynch was happening anyways. Can anyone say BUS? Also, where did Celina go (after attempting to cast suspicion on me) and why is Myrkr not talking?
Daganev2008-10-03 05:46:07
QUOTE(rhayni @ Oct 2 2008, 10:44 PM) 566075
Silferras used her Nathan powers to blow up Casilu. Therefore, if Silferras is scum, then the other scumbag had to attempt a kill.


Why do you think that is the case? I'm not understanding...
Unknown2008-10-03 05:49:09
QUOTE("Xavius")
Guns are mafia, as mentioned in Peter's role. You should be able to tell who did the killing by their death.


Casilu was blown up and I confirm that Silferras targetted Casilu.
Unknown2008-10-03 05:49:31
1. Because I really don't know what to say for a change.
2. It's 1:45 AM over here and over the now past two days I've had half an hour of sleep. (Yay for Lusty not requiring my brain)
3. I really don't know what to... oh... just... typed that.

Alright... so... you want my half-awake opinion?

I think Rika was scared that her double vote might be overlooked by someone and cause a ninja-lynch on Silvanus, so she decided not to vote.

I think Silferras isn't scum. If she was, she'd just let everyone get blown up instead, wouldn't she? Less competition to worry about.

I think in some sick twist of mathematical fate that Simon might be scum. So that's where my vote'll go.

Vote: Simon
Xavius2008-10-03 05:50:46
QUOTE(daganev @ Oct 3 2008, 12:40 AM) 566074
I'm actually not certain about the math either.

On the one hand its a 50/50 chance of being correct, on the other hand its a 1/3rd chance of being wrong, which means a 2/3rd chance of being right.

Because the statistics are starting to torture me, the mod is jumping in:

50% chance of being right on purpose.
25% chance of being right on accident.
25% chance of being wrong.
Unknown2008-10-03 05:53:29
Daganev, I don't know if scum can use their regular role powers and their mafia kill powers, so I guess in that vein, Silferras could've still attempted to kill someone other than Casilu, but that I can't verify. Your assumption that Silferras used mafia powers to kill Casilu is clearly wrong though.
Daganev2008-10-03 05:53:32
QUOTE(Xavius @ Oct 2 2008, 10:50 PM) 566079
Because the statistics are starting to torture me, the mod is jumping in:

50% chance of being right on purpose.
25% chance of being right on accident.
25% chance of being wrong.


But its not 75% chance of being right. I know that much about statistics.
Xavius2008-10-03 05:54:44
QUOTE(daganev @ Oct 3 2008, 12:53 AM) 566082
But its not 75% chance of being right. I know that much about statistics.

Actually, it is. It's 25% chance of being wrong. 100-25=75.

EDIT: If you really want to know, I flip a coin. If heads, it's correct. If tails, I flip again. On the second flip, if heads, it's town, if tails, it's scum.
Daganev2008-10-03 05:55:33
QUOTE(rhayni @ Oct 2 2008, 10:53 PM) 566081
Daganev, I don't know if scum can use their regular role powers and their mafia kill powers, so I guess in that vein, Silferras could've still attempted to kill someone other than Casilu, but that I can't verify. Your assumption that Silferras used mafia powers to kill Casilu is clearly wrong though.


Well good, because I NEVER suggested taht Silferras used her Mafia power to kill Casilu.


What I said was that Silfferas Has three choices at night:
1. Kill someone with a gun.
2. Target the Canadian.
3. Do Nothing.

I am assuming, that Silfferass can not do more than one action per night.
Unknown2008-10-03 05:55:44
A twist of mathematical fate? Do you have anything other than that for why you're suspicious of Simon? And people say my reasoning against Silvanus was flimsy.

Pretty sure that if everyone is blown up, the scum loses too, so that makes no sense and doesn't clear Silferras.
Daganev2008-10-03 05:57:41
QUOTE(Xavius @ Oct 2 2008, 10:54 PM) 566083
Actually, it is. It's 25% chance of being wrong. 100-25=75.

EDIT: If you really want to know, I flip a coin. If heads, it's correct. If tails, I flip again. On the second flip, if heads, it's town, if tails, it's scum.


Oh, I assumed you were flipping a coin once, and depending on the result of that coin, flipping another one. which is more like 1/2 * 1/2 instead of addition. (as apposed to rolling a 100 sided die and 1-25 = wrong) Guess it just depends how its done.
Unknown2008-10-03 05:58:21
Well, I guess we're misunderstanding each other then, Daganev.

Silferras DID target Casilu last night. And Casilu blew up, therefore Silferras used her Nathan powers on Casilu. And if you believe that Silferras can't do more than one action at night, that means if Silferras is scum, the other scumbag tried for the nightkill.