heh, ninjaed.

That is exactly how it's done.

But the scum can't talk to eachother, so how would the other scumbag get a chance for a nightkill?

this is the rule I'm talking about.

Oh... really?... about the Silferras... thing...

I don't have any sort of special role... just thought it'd suck for the doctor to be mafia... and since... random.org or... something... decided mafia... yeah....

I don't really have a much better reason than that...

Again... half awake... if you want proof of my time, it's EST, if you want other proof..... blargh.

Well, for one thing, the plan for Silferras to target Casilu was pretty out in the open. The other scum person would have known what was going down and known that they'd need to make the kill.

What Noola said.

And I'm sure that if the mod is not allowing any communication between the mafia there's some type of queue for how the nk goes down. I like to trust in the mod.

Normally, (well not normally, but most of the games I have seen) The mafia get roles like this:

"You are the godfather, you choose who gets hit at night"

"You are the second in command, if the godfather dies, you choose who to target at night"

"You are the lacky, if both the godfather and second in command die, you choose who to whack at night"

sort of thing. Since the scum can't talk, I'm assuming thats what the setup is like. So even if they knew silfferas was going to use the power, they wouldn't be allowed to target anyone.

now granted, it doesn't have to work that way, but I think that fits the evidence we currently have. Remember, we found Silfferas suspcious yesterday. (hence why I investigated her)

how about we lynch silfferas, and have Shiri block rika again, and if nobody dies we lynch rika?

Don't those two statements contradict themselves? Noola is not taking into account that scum cannot communicate, and that our plan of Silferras killing Casilu off as a signal for the other scum to kill. Your second statement is saying that if they cannot communicate, it is likely they have some kind of chain of command (like godfather > grunt1 > grunt2) Or maybe I'm just reading it wrong.

I'm going to go with Daganev's investigation. Vote: Silferras <-- mind the double

Well, as Daganev pointed out, sometimes there's a leader in the mafia that does all the kills, and when that person dies it passes on to the second, and after that person dies the third, et cetera... If it was Silferras's scum role to do the mafia kill, it makes sense that no one else could do it. Then you have to believe that she both used her normal power on Casilu (the blowing up) AND targeted someone else (but was blocked - so it would probably be Rika or Shiri). Else, she had to make a choice between normal power or mafia kill, and chose the normal power (because the terrorist is a threat to mafia as well as town, and using the mafia kill would have killed her as well as per the rules). OR... it was the third mafia's job to do the kill, and that person either is Rika or targeted Rika or Shiri (the two protected).

That's pretty convoluted, so I think I'll go with Daganev's results. He's right that we found Silferras suspicious yesterday, so I trust that he's telling the truth, at least for now. A 75% chance of being correct sounds pretty good to me.

Vote: Silferras

I thought about this, but...the scum would just not kill anyone if she was innocent.

Hmm, I think this could be a good idea... if we assume the setup is that one scum can kill at a time. How sure are you that that's how it is?

What does that gain them/ lose us?

It would be like Hiro using his no night-time power with the added benefit of us learning information from various investigations.

@simon: I'm 50% sure thats how the set up is.

It would be pretty weird if kills were not assigned by the mod, as the scum cannot actually talk between themselves.

So, tired Myrkr, you think it'd suck if Simon was mafia cuz a mafia doc would be icky. True that. But let's go further with it. Simon claims to have targetted Shiri for protection. Since Simon gave his target for protection -before- I said who I targetted, there's a very good reason to believe that Simon is telling the truth. Now, if Simon is a mafia-doc who protected Shiri then we can assume one of two things.

Simon was protecting Shiri from a non-mafia nightkill which implies Shiri is scum.
Simon protected Shiri knowing that he (Simon) was going to try to kill ... who.. Rika and only protected Shiri to make himself look innocent.

I'm not buying that, really.

I don't think Simon is scum. I also don't think Shiri is.

And Daganev, are you saying that you think that the mafia may have not been allowed to kill last night?

Preview: And I can't keep up with you all.

Rika, I didn't intend to be contradictory at all. What Noola said is true in conjunction with the mod likely having ways to determine how the mafia kills get done.

Shiri, worse case scenario is that the mafia don't kill and we wrongly lynch Rika tomorrow for it. Since you're already wanting to lynch Rika, if Rika is town, it's just as wrong today as it is tomorrow.

I can get behind a Silferras wagon more than a Rika wagon. I haven't forgotten the connection I made between Silvanus and Silferras yesterday and with Silvanus showing up mafia and Daganev's investigation, there's more meat to it.

vote: Silferras

I think Celina killing Rika or Shiri blocking Rika tonight would be the way to go.

It gains them that we kill an innocent. The investigations are unreliable. Even if all of them are town, yours is 66% accurate, and the others won't find the scum since they're not killing anyone.

Well, ok. Still think we really need Rika out of the picture though. Celina, can you kill Rika please? I'll roleblock someone else and Simon hopefully won't protect her, so we should be ok.

Oops, and Unvote: Rika, Vote: Silferras.