Diamondais2008-10-26 16:45:54
QUOTE(Haghan @ Oct 26 2008, 11:14 AM) 575774
Well it seems the way things go, there must be balance.
I am guessing Ackleberry with be an orderly commune preaching more balance and reflection than anything else. However RPwise, Ackleberry has to choose to return. The way that could happen: Bring back Sun and Jojobo
It seems likely that Tae'dae and Furrikin with be the favored race of Ackleberry, and Aslarans the favored race of Jojobo.
As seems to fit with history, music is the answer. Seek out a lost voice of a 4th circle (i think that's the circle) god and with it teach some Aslaran's the song to call to Sun. Call to the Sun Fae and see if they will lead you to Jojobo, wherever it is.
I am guessing that Sun would be a wild and free commune, contrasting Lake's balance and relfection. SOme would say that Sun is tainted and steeped in Madness.. but those in the commune would probably see Sun as having overcome the taint, and instead touched with Genius.
Get Sun to come back and inbalance things, and that shoudl get Ackleberry back here. Well ICly anywah
Design wise, it would probably be tough to introduce two communes at once.
I am guessing Ackleberry with be an orderly commune preaching more balance and reflection than anything else. However RPwise, Ackleberry has to choose to return. The way that could happen: Bring back Sun and Jojobo
It seems likely that Tae'dae and Furrikin with be the favored race of Ackleberry, and Aslarans the favored race of Jojobo.
As seems to fit with history, music is the answer. Seek out a lost voice of a 4th circle (i think that's the circle) god and with it teach some Aslaran's the song to call to Sun. Call to the Sun Fae and see if they will lead you to Jojobo, wherever it is.
I am guessing that Sun would be a wild and free commune, contrasting Lake's balance and relfection. SOme would say that Sun is tainted and steeped in Madness.. but those in the commune would probably see Sun as having overcome the taint, and instead touched with Genius.
Get Sun to come back and inbalance things, and that shoudl get Ackleberry back here. Well ICly anywah
Design wise, it would probably be tough to introduce two communes at once.
Seems pretty interesting of a theory, just a small fix.
But, there's no use in trying for a new org at this time. The population can't support five new guilds, let alone the ten that would be present in two new orgs.
Aerotan2008-10-26 20:52:38
Hrm...Jojobo Aslarans, Ackleberry Furrikin, Gaudiguchi Dracnari, and Hallifax Lucidians...Do the histories mention any other communes that anyone can remember offhand? I know the cities are more or less done, except for Vernal cities, AFAIK.
Gwylifar2008-10-27 02:05:51
QUOTE(Aerotan @ Oct 26 2008, 04:52 PM) 575851
Hrm...Jojobo Aslarans...
The idea of a commune of aslarans in Jojobo is wild inference at best. Here's the relevant passage from the Chronicles of the Elder Wars:
QUOTE(The Book Of Clangorum)
That all changed when Zenos attacked the Jojobo Jungle. Orlachmar and I were the first on the scene, along with Aslarn of the First Circle who always paid special attention to that tropical forest. As usual, Zenos was able to escape before we could trap him. Afterwards, what first struck us was how well the jungle had repelled the attacks of Zenos. Apparently, the raising of the Maeve Consciousness and anchoring the forest through an ethereal manifestation of the Tree of Trees proved to be a very effective defense. However, there was a catastrophe that was about to be discovered.
Keep in mind that this is just in the middle of the Elder Wars. The founding of the first communes, in the modern sense, doesn't happen for uncounted centuries yet. First, the Elder Wars must conclude; then there is an entire age in which the shards build civilizations, raise Edifices, and finally bring up Vernals who fight in the Vernal Wars; and only after the Vernal Wars are concluded with Avechna and the Seals does Glinshari found the first commune from a Great Tree.
So if something that will obviously turn out relevant to the Tree of Trees and its role in forming communes is happening in this very early time in the Jojobo, and if Aslarn feels a special bond to Jojobo, we can certainly imagine that maybe it will turn out that Jojobo survived the Elder Wars, survived the Vernal Wars, and after Glinshari showed the way, became a commune inhabited by the shards of Aslarn. That would be cool, and symmetrical. But we have nothing to say it even survived the Elder Wars, let alone survived the Vernal Wars, let alone became a commune.
The cold hard fact is, since we know we don't know where it is or what came of it, the simplest explanation is that it probably never made it anywhere near that far. Of course, Occam's Razor doesn't really apply to a world like Lusternia.
Shiri2008-10-27 02:11:09
Don't we know Jojobo exists and is a commune because that's where the people who taught us hunting, tracking and ecology came from? And they were chasing tigers. I mean, we knew Jojobo existed long before the passage you quoted was presented to us, and I'm not sure where else we would have gotten it. I seem to remember it from that event too.
At any rate, if I were to use Occam's razor, I'd say: we know there's a commune that still exists outside the Basin, and has tigers, and the only other commune whose name is ever given is Jojobo (other than Ackleberry), so it's probably that.
At any rate, if I were to use Occam's razor, I'd say: we know there's a commune that still exists outside the Basin, and has tigers, and the only other commune whose name is ever given is Jojobo (other than Ackleberry), so it's probably that.
Munsia2008-10-27 02:20:22
I don't recall them calling it that.
Astraea2008-10-27 04:01:29
The Druids were Sun worshippers--Sun was bound to Jojobo. That's pretty straightforward.
Aerotan2008-10-27 04:54:36
Sun only went SLIGHTLY insane...nothing a few hundred centuries chasing Night won't fix...right..? Besides, there's also the possibility that the druids recognize that Sun is bat:censored: insane, and are working to contain him...
A serious problem just occured to me though. Estelbar is, like, IN Ackleberry Forest...
A serious problem just occured to me though. Estelbar is, like, IN Ackleberry Forest...
Diamondais2008-10-27 04:56:33
QUOTE(Aerotan @ Oct 27 2008, 12:54 AM) 576039
Sun only went SLIGHTLY insane...nothing a few hundred centuries chasing Night won't fix...right..? Besides, there's also the possibility that the druids recognize that Sun is bat:censored: insane, and are working to contain him...
A serious problem just occured to me though. Estelbar is, like, IN Ackleberry Forest...
A serious problem just occured to me though. Estelbar is, like, IN Ackleberry Forest...
Well no, it's more slightly outside of Ackleberry forest and as is the Tolboraghgjafgagkf valley.
Unknown2008-10-27 06:22:30
QUOTE(shadow @ Oct 16 2008, 06:46 AM) 571596
Name me one event that resulted from player initiated RP.
I think Glomdoring was one, but that is so many years ago now it hardly counts anymore. And I honestly can't think of any other. Ever.
I think Glomdoring was one, but that is so many years ago now it hardly counts anymore. And I honestly can't think of any other. Ever.
D.O.C. -> Glomdoring.
Q.E.D.
Esano2008-10-27 07:26:00
QUOTE(Aerotan @ Oct 27 2008, 02:54 PM) 576039
Sun only went SLIGHTLY insane...nothing a few hundred centuries chasing Night won't fix...right..? Besides, there's also the possibility that the druids recognize that Sun is bat:censored: insane, and are working to contain him...
A serious problem just occured to me though. Estelbar is, like, IN Ackleberry Forest...
A serious problem just occured to me though. Estelbar is, like, IN Ackleberry Forest...
He's been back in modern times. Set loose sun fae in Etherglom, IIRC. Still mostly trapped.
Aerotan2008-10-27 08:40:13
Shhh! You weren't supposed to remember that!
Estarra2008-10-27 19:38:36
QUOTE(daganev @ Oct 16 2008, 12:30 PM) 571686
Fain took over Elohora and convinced Erion to attack the fae.
Someone pointed this out to me. There is some persistent rumour that Elohora told Erion to kill fae. This is false and untrue. Certainly, it had nothing to do with Fain.
The truth is that Erion completely misunderstood what Elohora said. She did suggest there was a way for fae to be brought to the light, but she never sanctioned nor insinuated that they needed to die to do so.
I'd just like to lay this rumour to rest.
Diamondais2008-10-27 19:42:00
QUOTE(Estarra @ Oct 27 2008, 03:38 PM) 576208
Someone pointed this out to me. There is some persistent rumour that Elohora told Erion to kill fae. This is false and untrue. Certainly, it had nothing to do with Fain.
The truth is that Erion completely misunderstood what Elohora said. She did suggest there was a way for fae to be brought to the light, but she never sanctioned nor insinuated that they needed to die to do so.
I'd just like to lay this rumour to rest.
The truth is that Erion completely misunderstood what Elohora said. She did suggest there was a way for fae to be brought to the light, but she never sanctioned nor insinuated that they needed to die to do so.
I'd just like to lay this rumour to rest.
But it makes everything so much more interesting...
Daganev2008-10-27 19:45:56
QUOTE(Estarra @ Oct 27 2008, 12:38 PM) 576208
Someone pointed this out to me. There is some persistent rumour that Elohora told Erion to kill fae. This is false and untrue. Certainly, it had nothing to do with Fain.
The truth is that Erion completely misunderstood what Elohora said. She did suggest there was a way for fae to be brought to the light, but she never sanctioned nor insinuated that they needed to die to do so.
I'd just like to lay this rumour to rest.
The truth is that Erion completely misunderstood what Elohora said. She did suggest there was a way for fae to be brought to the light, but she never sanctioned nor insinuated that they needed to die to do so.
I'd just like to lay this rumour to rest.
Well, at the time, when I was in Fain's order, Fain announced over OT how he was happy to see how Erion fell for the things he told him, and we all had a good laugh of how gullible Erion was. So the rurmor, is really an IC based rumor.
Fain2008-10-27 20:07:48
QUOTE(daganev @ Oct 27 2008, 02:45 PM) 576216
Well, at the time, when I was in Fain's order, Fain announced over OT how he was happy to see how Erion fell for the things he told him, and we all had a good laugh of how gullible Erion was. So the rurmor, is really an IC based rumor.
Fain may well have tricked Erion and taken the credit for it, or possibly he just took the credit for it.
Either way, he categorically did not possess Elohora. Even if he had, he certainly wouldn't have been bragging about it on the order channel - that would have been a disgraceful mixing of his OOC and IC functions!
Haghan2008-10-29 14:30:00
Just curious..
One thing we talk about is the lack of players to support a leadership structure.
Why are we so stuck on the "One Class= One Guild" model.
Especially in the seemingly Harmonious Ackleberry, Wiccan and druid Archetypes might not need seperate guild structures.
Other guilds could likely be bundled: high stength Tae'dae Warriors stand beside dexterous Furrikin fighters (not sure what works for that achetype? Monk?) in harmony.
If leadership loss in a problem, bundlign classes may be a solution, and a new commune would be a great place to start it off.
One thing we talk about is the lack of players to support a leadership structure.
Why are we so stuck on the "One Class= One Guild" model.
Especially in the seemingly Harmonious Ackleberry, Wiccan and druid Archetypes might not need seperate guild structures.
Other guilds could likely be bundled: high stength Tae'dae Warriors stand beside dexterous Furrikin fighters (not sure what works for that achetype? Monk?) in harmony.
If leadership loss in a problem, bundlign classes may be a solution, and a new commune would be a great place to start it off.
Unknown2008-10-29 14:54:28
That actually sounds like a great idea, Haghan. Totally support it. *thumbsup*
Astraea2008-10-29 17:02:49
I don't think that would fly with the admin though.
Tervic2008-10-29 17:34:19
QUOTE(Visaeris Maeloch @ Oct 26 2008, 11:22 PM) 576053
D.O.C. -> Glomdoring.
Q.E.D.
Q.E.D.
What is D.O.C.? All I'm thinking of is deoxycholic acid and I don't think it's that....
Astraea2008-10-29 17:38:11
Disciples of Crow.