I'd never use a dirigible, mainly seems to be used for sending people artifacts but I don't have enough for that

Not interested in fate, I know I SHOULD get a pogo stick but I dun wanna.

Could get a snout if I sold my goggles but don't wanna do that, so that leaves either something useless like a cowbell or a sparkatron or... A chaos hamster plushie/panic button.

Everyone has a snout these days, be different!

Dirigible is really handy if you're questing together with someone.

Dirigible is awesome!

snout is better

The hamster plushie was retired already.

I've deleted a couple posts and bumped warn levels - really, when a moderator says to drop a topic, continuing it is a bad idea.

Reminds me, Idea: Put up a warning announce saying which dingbat items will be retired at least a few days before they are, so people can't be caught off guard or anything, or have a last chance to buy them if they've just been waiting for some reason.

Rave for the few people that come aetherhunting with me

Leading the Consolidated Commodity Collectivization Party in Dairuchi. Even if I didn't know what I was doing. I learned quite a bit.

Well now, that is the very first time that has happened. I think it would maybe have been a little more awesome if it hadn't happened at what would have been the very last hit on a pretty weak thing anyway, but WHO CARES I FEEL LIKE I AM MADE OF ULTIMATE DESTRUCTION.

It's interesting that the Aeromancer staff uses lightning, which, to me, is a combination of wind and fire. They should make a mini tornado around the target. :3

Storms are the product of cold and warm wind, high and low pressures - all well in the domain of Aeromancers. Lightning is just a product of that.

Yes, but I'd think there was fire involved with the lightning bolt itself. *shrugs*

There's a Fire Bender in Avatar, the Last Air Bender who uses lightning. Maybe I'm just basing my opinion too much off of that.

Ongaku, you're making my inner amateur scientist very sad.

Neither wind nor fire have anything whatsoever to do with bolts of lightning, except indirectly.

The lightning bolt itself turns the immediate surrounding air to plasma (which is extremely hot, but isn't fire), and the electric charge is built up in the clouds and on the ground.

Or something.

I'm just going to say, lightning is awesome and Aeromancy is awesome, so it makes 100% perfect sense that Aeromancers shoot lightning.

Sorry? This is also a fantasy game, and in fantasy games, the same rules don't necessarily apply. I was comparing fantasy (Avatar, the Last Air Bender) with fantasy (Lusternian Aeromancers). My bad. :3

... also I said "fantasy" a lot.

Well that's true, but in Lusternia, I tend to think that if people can build Hallifax's Matrix, they know what lightning really is.

Right, I'm sure I'm probably just being silly and uneducated.

Except we're not based on things like the atomic model and such, we're still using the classical elements. A world with that as a core is going to have much different advanced science.

Well, there are fantasy settings in which lightning is considered to be an air element (more common), and others in which it's considered to be a fire element (much less common, in my experience).

But since lightning is chiefly a weather phenomenon, in a game with cloud sorcerers and elemental planes that you can actually visit, I'd think it makes more sense for lightning to be associated with air.

Also, regardless of the fact that Lusternia is based on the classical elements, unlike in medieval England I assume Aeromancers do in fact understand electricity to some degree, since they are able to harness it.

Anyway, I wasn't trying to be insulting, Ongaku. I didn't think you thought real-world lightning was made of wind and fire, but I do think air seems a far more appropriate category for lightning than fire in Lusternia's case, and wondered why you were questioning the appropriateness.

I understand. I don't know, I probably live in a fantasy world IRL anyway. XD

Actually, I think it's very fair to assume the same basic principles govern the world of Lusternia as govern our world - what goes up must come down, unless otherwise acted upon. The same phenomena control weather, hurricanes will probably manifest over warm water, cold fronts meeting warm fronts will likely cause storms, snow is still cold and chocolate still originates from a plant that grows in jungles. Fish live in the water by and large, and lantern fish still live in deep water - as do angler fish and the like. Likewise, dolphins still swim and birds still fly. The most basic principles of reality are maintained - they can be acted upon by means of which we are unfamiliar/incapable of enacting ourselves with in our own reality, certainly.

And Azula's lightning was, if I remember Iroh's explanation correctly, more a physical expression of chi energy being released (more that she was so universally 'tapped in' so to speak she was able to focus her element of fire so precisely and to such a degree that the air would become plasma), and the technique he taught Aang and Zuko to redirect it was based on the Taoist practices of Tai Chi and Chi Kung - controlling the flow of energy through the chakra associated with the stomach/solar plexus, which generally has to do with spiritual balance and self-awareness. It wasn't fire directly - it was more the result of fire (I guess one could draw a very base link to Kitara's bloodbending on the Full Moon - they aren't bending the body just as firebenders aren't bending lightning, but rather they're enacting a change using what they can bend).