Unknown2008-10-15 23:46:37
QUOTE(geb @ Oct 15 2008, 11:39 PM) 571336
Everyone can gain the skills too, no matter the archetype.
Then off this I'll say that herbbane is not OP, since everybody can get high health if they really try.
Geb2008-10-15 23:48:16
QUOTE(Thoros LaSaet @ Oct 16 2008, 12:46 AM) 571338
Then off this I'll say that herbbane is not OP, since everybody can get high health if they really try.
I did not say herbbane was or was not overpowered though. I have no clue what it is, since I have not experienced it. What I do know though, is that Inquisition is not, since I have dealt with it many times and avoided it far easier than those who seem to complain about it have.
Geb2008-10-15 23:49:46
QUOTE(Thoros LaSaet @ Oct 16 2008, 12:43 AM) 571337
Thanks for stating the obvious. Inquisition is still overpowered however.
Anything that cost 12 power, is a trans skill, that can be avoided with another trans skill that cost 0 power is not overpowered. Good day sir!
Casilu2008-10-15 23:53:36
QUOTE(geb @ Oct 15 2008, 04:48 PM) 571339
I did not say herbbane was or was not overpowered though. I have no clue what it is, since I have not experienced it. What I do know though, is that Inquisition is not, since I have dealt with it many times and avoided it far easier than those who seem to complain about it have.
It reduces health, mana, and ego by about 300 or more every time it triggers and triggers about 50% of the time when he try to eat the herb. So, with manabarbs and egovice, I find myself down about 1k health every time I try to cure manabarbs and egovice.
Unknown2008-10-16 00:24:56
It only drains mana and ego when eaten. It's egovice and manabarbs that make it do damage.
Ardmore2008-10-16 00:30:59
The problem is, it doesn't take herb balance, so you might eat horehound like 3 times in a row... And it proc each time, causing 3k damage in a matter of what? 2 seconds? On top of the active damage it's doing to you.
Casilu2008-10-16 00:31:30
QUOTE(Thoros LaSaet @ Oct 15 2008, 05:24 PM) 571346
It only drains mana and ego when eaten. It's egovice and manabarbs that make it do damage.
3046h, 4452m, 4974e, 10e, 13110en, 20490w esSilrxk- <23:02:39.811> System: OFF
You eat a sprig of chervil.
A sprig of chervil turns to ash in your mouth, which you spit out.
You hear an ominous sound, and a dull pain stab throbs throughout your head.
You hear strange whispers, and a sharp pain stabs you between the eyes.
2098h, 4169m, 4626e, 10e, 13110en, 20490w esSilrxk- <23:02:40.013>
948 damage. 283 to mana. 248 to ego. It either adds randomly large amounts of damage with afflicts or it does health damage.
Lekius2008-10-16 00:44:18
I propose we vote YES on REPORT 61 SOLUTION 1.
Celina2008-10-16 03:03:59
True story: I fought Marlucia with about 5,500 health. Marlucia hit me with manabarbs, egovice and I hit an unlucky string of herbbane, managed to cure manabarbs once only to have Marlucia replace it immediately, couldn't cure any of it and died to a sparkleberry and Marlucia didn't ever directly damage me.
All within about 30 to 40 seconds.
Herbbane = broken
All within about 30 to 40 seconds.
Herbbane = broken
Lekius2008-10-16 03:33:39
That's why we vote YES on Report 61!
Unknown2008-10-16 05:43:11
Just had an impromptu envoy meeting with most of the active envoys and Charune, herb bane's gonna get changed and I get to use my slot for something else. Woohoo.
Rika2008-10-16 05:46:44
Unknown2008-10-16 05:49:29
Wait, the admin are making a special change for herbbane and you get to use a slot for something else? That's the lamest crock of :censor: I've heard yet heh. Wish they would do that for many other abilities which need changing.
Rika2008-10-16 05:49:48
Nerf lich.
Silvanus2008-10-16 05:50:41
QUOTE(Thoros LaSaet @ Oct 16 2008, 12:49 AM) 571471
Wait, the admin are making a special change for herbbane and you get to use a slot for something else? That's the lamest crock of I've heard yet heh. Wish they would do that for many other abilities which need changing.
They will if most envoys agree that it's broken.
Nerf Via.
Unknown2008-10-16 05:57:18
QUOTE(Silvanus @ Oct 16 2008, 05:50 AM) 571473
They will if most envoys agree that it's broken.
Nerf Via.
Nerf Via.
That's :censor:, we both know that.
Shiri2008-10-16 05:59:10
Still haven't nerfed choke yet, so...
Charune2008-10-16 06:06:22
QUOTE(Thoros LaSaet @ Oct 16 2008, 01:57 AM) 571477
That's , we both know that.
If the majority of envoys have a major combat concern and agree to fix it in a certain way, I'll take the suggestion without the use of a regular report slot. It means it can be both done faster, with less hassle, and with less reliance on the reports for such major concerns.
I'm not sure how this is a bad thing.
Shiri2008-10-16 06:07:22
QUOTE(Charune @ Oct 16 2008, 07:06 AM) 571482
If the majority of envoys have a major combat concern and agree to fix it in a certain way, I'll take the suggestion without the use of a regular report slot. It means it can be both done faster, with less hassle, and with less reliance on the reports for such major concerns.
I'm not sure how this is a bad thing.
I'm not sure how this is a bad thing.
Thoros isn't saying it's a bad thing, he just thinks it's lame that it's happening to herbbane but not other things.
Dunno what "other things" he means though so it's hard to tell if it's a valid complaint or not.
Xavius2008-10-16 06:17:14
QUOTE(Shiri @ Oct 16 2008, 01:07 AM) 571483
Thoros isn't saying it's a bad thing, he just thinks it's lame that it's happening to herbbane but not other things.
Dunno what "other things" he means though so it's hard to tell if it's a valid complaint or not.
Dunno what "other things" he means though so it's hard to tell if it's a valid complaint or not.
Trueheal and choke, of course, because everyone agrees that trueheal is overpowered and everyone agrees on how to fix choke.