LoR Mafia

by Casilu

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Daganev2008-10-23 05:46:12
QUOTE(rika @ Oct 22 2008, 08:19 PM) 574315
Unless anyone wants to counterclaim as Thoros.. vote: Daganev


Mind explaining the reasoning here?

I found Shiri's lack of reading skills suspicious (since he normally has them) and so you're voting for me?

Did I ask Shiri to role-claim? Did I even put any pressure for a role-claim?

It seemed pretty obvious to me that the person who has inquisition targeted the Serial Killer, and the serial killer was also targeted by someone else that night, causing them to die and not survive the kill.


It sounds to me like Shiri wants to be targeted, so that he comes back stronger, which is all well and good.

so I'll Vote Esaso for still not talking.

There is nothing scummy about my finding shiri scummy for lacking his usual reading comprehension skills, he even said so in his own post.

btw Shiri, what made you put me on the list of probably not being scum? The fact that I was gone for 2 days and people still got killed?

Rika2008-10-23 05:49:13
QUOTE(daganev @ Oct 23 2008, 06:46 PM) 574391
Mind explaining the reasoning here?

I found Shiri's lack of reading skills suspicious (since he normally has them) and so you're voting for me?


Except I proved that your reading skills was just as suspicious, hence you get my vote.
Shiri2008-10-23 05:51:15
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btw Shiri, what made you put me on the list of probably not being scum? The fact that I was gone for 2 days and people still got killed?

No, that was Dugan voting you for questionable reasons and then coming up as scum when I killed him. Given the post I mentioned with the jawdrop smiley I didn't think he was experienced enough to vote you as "distancing", especially not under those circumstances.

It's actually more of "probably not mafia" than "probably not scum", there could still be a cultist/other SK/similar.
Unknown2008-10-23 06:00:17
QUOTE(Maylea @ Oct 23 2008, 12:56 PM) 574349
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Oops. blush.gif

Still, Shaddus is at 3!
Esano2008-10-23 06:00:31
Can people stop voting me for not talking? I live in Australia, you're all talking while I'm at school/asleep. I only managed to post once on the second day because of this (logging in, posting my thoughts on the nightkills, going away to do other stuff and coming back to find there'd already been a lynch. A bit shocking.)

Give me a moment to gather coherent thoughts on actions and post them, as well as probably a vote. Just wanted to head off a possible ninja-lynch due to time-zone 'inactivity'.
Unknown2008-10-23 06:22:25
My time zone isn't all that off from Australia, though I do admit to late night stints.. And posting from school.. But yeah. biggrin.gif
Shiri2008-10-23 06:24:13
Still no Lanfayr claim either, weird.
Daganev2008-10-23 06:36:02
Has Ilayrin/soll said anything constructive since the first day?
Esano2008-10-23 06:39:20
Well, let's see.

Rika is confirmed, yes?

Daganev votes Shiri for not reading properly (something I did too - win conditions normally go down the bottom!). The inqui thing is a bit odd, but I'm willing to let it slide. No-one's counterclaimed, and the flavour text definitely fits Thoros. However, as we can see from my own lack of posting, time zones can screw people up majorly.

Daganev also misposted Celina's role, although his later post corrects this (although he doesn't admit that he was wrong in the earlier post, presumably because it would weaken his argument). A bit hypocritical, or possibly trying to make a mountain out of a molehill in order to get a lynch or claim.

However, after Rika votes him, he then further excuses his vote by "It sounds to me like Shiri wants to be targeted, so that he comes back stronger, which is all well and good." - when Celina's role says nothing about lich making them stronger, simply bringing them back the next day, and Shiri never asked for a lynch. This might be different for someone who has necromancy, and would thus turn into an archlich, but it's still a bit iffy. Sounds almost as if he's trying to create a quick-lynch in the hopes that some people might be duped into believing Shiri gets bonuses.

He then attempts to distract people by voting me, for still not talking. Normally a reasonable vote, except that he oscillated so easily between voting for Shiri and myself, especially after the above stuff. Seems like he was trying to go for a safe vote, as several other people were already voting for me.

Hence, Vote: Daganev.
Shiri2008-10-23 06:43:59
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However, after Rika votes him, he then further excuses his vote by "It sounds to me like Shiri wants to be targeted, so that he comes back stronger, which is all well and good." - when Celina's role says nothing about lich making them stronger, simply bringing them back the next day, and Shiri never asked for a lynch. This might be different for someone who has necromancy, and would thus turn into an archlich, but it's still a bit iffy. Sounds almost as if he's trying to create a quick-lynch in the hopes that some people might be duped into believing Shiri gets bonuses.


Interesting. I was wondering about the motivation for this particular section. Hmmmmm.
Rika2008-10-23 06:44:52
QUOTE(daganev @ Oct 23 2008, 07:36 PM) 574427
Has Ilayrin/soll said anything constructive since the first day?


No, but from memory, it has always been night when he is awake.
Daganev2008-10-23 06:50:13
QUOTE(Esano @ Oct 22 2008, 11:39 PM) 574430
However, after Rika votes him, he then further excuses his vote by "It sounds to me like Shiri wants to be targeted, so that he comes back stronger, which is all well and good." - when Celina's role says nothing about lich making them stronger, simply bringing them back the next day, and Shiri never asked for a lynch. This might be different for someone who has necromancy, and would thus turn into an archlich, but it's still a bit iffy. Sounds almost as if he's trying to create a quick-lynch in the hopes that some people might be duped into believing Shiri gets bonuses.



Targeted does not equal Lynch!

the only explanation I can think of , as to why Shiri would be willing to go out and say he is a vig (thus making him a great target for the mafia) is if his getting targeted at night would give him some benefit. Because either Noola stays protected, or they shift the protection to Shiri (I highly suggest that noola stay protected)

The reason I did not mention anything about being wrong, is because I wasn't wrong. Being inquisitioned is what got Celina killed, because it removed her lich ability.

I also suggest that you let Noola investigate me, and she can tell you why I should not be Lynched.


Daganev2008-10-23 06:51:52
QUOTE(Shiri @ Oct 22 2008, 11:43 PM) 574431
Interesting. I was wondering about the motivation for this particular section. Hmmmmm.


esano's motivation or mine? I explained mine in the previous post.

Also, is Viravain being replaced as well?
Shiri2008-10-23 06:53:20
I was willing to go out and say I was a vig because I get lich. If I die once, I come back (same strength). So it wouldn't be too smart for the mafia to use two kills on me. Also I don't think they have inqui anymore with Desitrus dead. ALSO I felt like my bad reading (since it wasn't clear I was playing properly by killing Dugan) was going to get me lynched so I saved everyone the effort and roleclaimed right there.

I suggest if we have a doctor they keep Noola protected until she can find Shuyin. At least until I die once, at any rate.

And you were totally wrong. I KNEW inqui made Celina killable, I just didn't think it killed her itself (which is what you implied.)
Rika2008-10-23 06:54:32
Doman/Celina was killed because she got targetted by something else while inquisitioned. The inquistion just meant lich didn't work.
Daganev2008-10-23 06:56:03
QUOTE(Shiri @ Oct 22 2008, 11:53 PM) 574443
I was willing to go out and say I was a vig because I get lich. If I die once, I come back (same strength). So it wouldn't be too smart for the mafia to use two kills on me. Also I don't think they have inqui anymore with Desitrus dead. ALSO I felt like my bad reading (since it wasn't clear I was playing properly by killing Dugan) was going to get me lynched so I saved everyone the effort and roleclaimed right there.

I suggest if we have a doctor they keep Noola protected until she can find Shuyin. At least until I die once, at any rate.

And you were totally wrong. I KNEW inqui made Celina killable, I just didn't think it killed her itself (which is what you implied.)


Furien inquisitions Celina, doctor protects Celina, celina dies for good... why? Because of the inquisition.
Daganev2008-10-23 06:59:26
QUOTE(Shiri @ Oct 22 2008, 06:03 PM) 574281
Well, we know Shuyin is in the game, so we have at least one left. But we may also have Nejii/Sarrasri around, as a cultist (probably Nejii. Actually...maybe Nejii isn't a cult, otherwise how would Doman/Celina have died like that? Inqui doesn't kill, even in this game, by the looks of it. So I thought it was deathtouch. No wounds. Hrm.) Anyway, it's very likely we have two ascendants left, because Casilu said it was a case of forgetting -one- of those people, not two...


Again, I'm not sure what all the assumptions you were trying to make here, in this mess of logic, but what happened to Celina looked pretty clear to me.

and the inquisition is exactly what killed Celina.
Casilu2008-10-23 06:59:41
QUOTE(Shiri @ Oct 22 2008, 11:53 PM) 574443
Also I don't think they have inqui anymore with Desitrus dead.

Vote Shiri

For still not reading roles.
Daganev2008-10-23 07:00:41
Just to clarify, if Celina was not inquisitioned, then she would not have died at all. (even once)
Daganev2008-10-23 07:02:05
QUOTE(Shiri @ Oct 22 2008, 11:53 PM) 574443
Also I don't think they have inqui anymore with Desitrus dead.



What do you mean by "they"? Furien was on our team.. i.e. Town. (furien was the guy with inquisition, incase you are still confused)